I may sound greedy saying it. But I got kinda annoyed when too many players began abusing the Neo Rifle glitch. It was not fair for bar users (even if I don't have a bar). It wasn't a big problem for me. I just felt sorry for those BAR users getting beaten by a glitched neo user. Neo Rifle also cost $5400. Thankfully, the neo rifle glitch got patched.

This makes very little sense :o

I remember long time ago in era. It was a bit "ironic" that shotguns were better at long range than short range because there was no such thing as shotgun damage properties back then.

Sooo, is M3 still OP?

Just got home let me test it and I'll pm you.

Edit: PM sent

lmao nerf it into a 4 shot kill then it would be fine

Or just leave it the way it was. What? Only 6 people complained about it/actually noticed the difference. Old guns need to remain somewhat crappy so players have reason to buy new.

I agree. However they need to be stronger than cheaper guns of the same class.

^ This is what I was trying to attain

the only way you could make it better than the cheap shotties, is to take away the dual wield of them, which should not happen. Increase spread and a little of the speed on the M3 take away the shotgun effect.

i kinda new the m3 got buff i used to use it it sucked then a guy killed me 3 shots i like it now

I had alot of guns, 36 EC alot of melles and a bunch of stuff adding up to alot of money, i hit transfer on my ipod when i went to log into my email adress and when i loged in everything was gone.

there arnt many shotguns in the game, and ive heard that the ksg really needs a buff too. maybe not to its original self, but just a big bump.

The shield is my problem. Sure it reduces damage taken. I just find that while you're shooting with the shield, it's really slow. You can still die fast enough because your gun shoots slow with a shield.

KSG Shotgun was then meant that you shoot normally without a shield. If a bullet is about to hit you, hit the shield button last second before you take damage. The problem is that the shield the first thing I can view as "the item made to slow you down". It's got some freeze when you pull out the shield. Shooting with the shield slows down your movement, and lowers your rate of fire. It also feels as if it adds more freeze to the gun. I also feel that ksg shotgun needs a little less freeze (I don't mind if the damage gets lowered a bit due to freeze rate being shortened.)

I just think the shield should have no freeze upon activation. (like activating lexel laser or the pencil/fork trash pick action) To make it fair, you can't shoot for 2 seconds upon activating the shield. It can make combat more interesting. Block the bullet last second with the right timing to take less damage.