i dont even get what the big deal is about sparring. you can move your fingers faster (and probably lag a little) faster than your opponent. congrats. outside of sparrers no one gives a flying **** about how you did against a certain person or how someone did in the gst. Graal sparring has turned into one of the most toxic aspects of the game, it really reminds me of League of Legends. If youre just starting and not very good, youll mostly get no respect and harassed by the ego stroking kids who happen to be decent. it's the same with spar.

like i said before, besides a handful of people on this forum, no one actually cares how you did in spar, and we dont need to hear about in in every thread, especially ones that are not even about spar in the first place.

True-^

Also let's not derail the thread

West (aka Herr Kreig-Vulpes Inculta) has some explaining to do lolhttps://i.imgur.com/16SsEnS.png

source: http://graalmilitary.wikia.com/wiki/The_Free_States
Minister of Internal Affairs Harau Bacsey confirmed this was West.

You have to admit, some military tower guilds can be very organized. Was towering a couple days ago and we noticed people coming in waves of 7, and there were 9 of us. They quickly overran us and we lost the tower. Once we got around 11 members we took the tower, and there were close to 20 members in the other guild.

I went outside to see what they were doing and I saw the leader start his phase one attack by saying, "STRIKE TEAM, GO"! " and 1/3rd of his guild force into the tower. Once he saw one person responded he'd send in phase two and SAY " SUPPORT TEAM, GO!" Then he waited for like 20 seconds and sent in his 'Reinforcement team' and we were overwhelmed again.

In some other military guilds I see some leaders organizing training sessions with horses, bombs, arrows, etc. Of course their sparring sucks but it's cool how they can make this role-playing into almost a way of life lol. Some will have awesome formations in pk and it would just be awesome. Would join one of these military guilds just to have that kind of fun.

Please avoid derailing this thread.

Seems OP's original goal was to discuss thoughts and opinions on military guilds. While I don't discourage you from talking about military members or issues you face with military guilds, I DO discourage you from slandering others and derailing the thread to have an argument with each other. Please take any arguments you have with people to the private messages. Thanks!

Thank you.

i’ll be honest here, military guilds these days aren’t the greatest as they were back then
the only thing they seem to like doing is sit on a spot all day and claim that the land is theirs
obviously, they start pk wars against other guilds, and those fights are pretty alright
the problem is that they’ll start to use rp elements in the process of the war (ex. wear hover boots and a shield that looks like a plane while proceeding to spam bombs everywhere)
hate to break it to them but if you want to claim territory, then just go tower and prove that you can function like a military

i’ll be honest here, military guilds these days aren’t the greatest as they were back then
the only thing they seem to like doing is sit on a spot all day and claim that the land is theirs
obviously, they start pk wars against other guilds, and those fights are pretty alright
the problem is that they’ll start to use rp elements in the process of the war (ex. wear hover boots and a shield that looks like a plane while proceeding to spam bombs everywhere)
hate to break it to them but if you want to claim territory, then just go tower and prove that you can function like a military

military guild r cringe lol :

Woaaah there cowboy, I never talked to you. Don't drag my name into this. But yea, that's Fessler/Westbrook.

Is it true Fessler/West is the creator of the military website and his own personal bio lol?

http://graalmilitary.wikia.com/wiki/...tavian_Fessler

you need a hobby lol

dam so westbrook was that random named fessler i met a year ago

I think you also need a hobby lol. The reason why military guilds are cancer, especially the Magnus Family is because it breeds deception and bull**** in the game without trying to excel in it. Apparently, you photoshopped a pm of mine and a random pm (trash talking Seveade) that YOU generated, and gave it to Seveade Valeria, a member of the family, and told Seveade that I said this to him lol.

Westbrook (Sol Fessler Magnus) also threatened Seveade that this false pm of mine should be kept secret, and that it should not be exposed (Why would you say this?). You would say it, because no one heard me say that kind of **** to Seveade, you idiot. Because Seveade came to me yesterday, and said he was kind of scared if he should tell this to me despite the fact Seveade is actually the victim here.

Also, I found it interesting how some people call this stalking. West, it's not stalking if you voluntarily make an online game biography of yourself, and put it on the public, and expect your military snakes to keep it a secret. You wouldn't put that on public to keep it hidden from people seeing it, right? In addition, you told around 50 people that Westbrook = Fessler. So I am not sure why now you are saying you don't do military when YOU DO.

The problem with Graal Military has little to do with lags, or stealing pks. It has to do with it providing a breeding ground for literally snakes, or should I say, people who don't try to actually play the game, but do crap like this (photoshopping, making alternate account to trick people, blackmailing, etc). It is quite understandable that they don't excel in the major aspects of the game such as towering and sparring, or even socializing, but leaning onto devious schemes won't really help you move forward in the game.

West, I remember you saying that you wanted to place in gst. How are you going to place if you keep deceiving people like this?

I understand that you have some kind of hatred towards Doublelift, but the difference between him and you is that he doesn't pull this kind of ****.

Nice job copying Fulgore's profile pic from either discord or graalian forums. I think anything is a better hobby than kissing up to prominent sparrers or trying to slander people maliciously.

Outside of Westbrook who in the Magnus family does that? There's a good handful of people in Magnus that could easily beat anyone in Valeria (a group of people which, by the way, created Sehzan, one of the most autistic and heavily roleplayed militaries in the game, which is really saying something) in spar, with the obvious exception of yourself.