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Reemas 10-03-2017 06:54 PM

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Posted by qes (Post 797695)
people play graal for the fun of it. popularity on a video game doesn't matter. I'm sitting here typing on graalians making fun of you because its fun

Tell that Aguzo. Woops, nevermind. You just did inadvertently.

Eugeen 10-03-2017 06:58 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 797692)
Nah, you just need to know how to think for yourself.

I'm just gonna assume you're trolling instead of having a disability in consuming information
Hope things work out

Reemas 10-03-2017 07:02 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 797697)
I'm just gonna assume you're trolling instead of having a disability in consuming information
Hope things work out

I'm just gonna assume you're trolling instead of having a disability in consuming information
Hope things work out

Aguzo 10-03-2017 07:21 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 797694)
Why else would you need to make all money? Just to see how much you can collect? Yea right.

Either way, you dont need to cheat to do anything.

That's exactly what I've been doing, since I've started graal
Spoiler
https://i.imgur.com/4R7GOx6.png
https://i.imgur.com/6i9Ge79.png
https://i.imgur.com/EbOI2wk.png
https://i.imgur.com/3Hh9OWN.png
I even made a video, years ago, on how to make a better farm


Checking different houses to see if guild house or normal house is better
https://i.imgur.com/FiKbraC.png

I just like to keep track of my progress to know how much I can get for spending x amount of time or x amount of bombs

Then conveyor belts came along


Didn't even use my allen wrench to farm, cause I try to keep things as clean as possible

Brett 10-03-2017 08:04 PM

Beyond ******ed ban. That's like saying working 2 jobs irl is cheating to get more money... when he's manually doing all the work by pressing buttons

Zetectic 10-03-2017 08:13 PM

I think. We are gonna be limited to like 10 conveyor belt per house now lol

Nanner 10-03-2017 08:30 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 797645)
You're missing the key point here and that is there is no CHEATING allowed.


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Posted by Brett (Post 797700)
Beyond ******ed ban. That's like saying working 2 jobs irl is cheating to get more money... when he's manually doing all the work by pressing buttons

Reemas u make no cents

Reemas 10-03-2017 08:40 PM

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Posted by Nanner (Post 797704)
Reemas u make no cents

That’s because i dont cheat.

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Posted by Brett (Post 797700)
Beyond ******ed ban. That's like saying working 2 jobs irl is cheating to get more money... when he's manually doing all the work by pressing buttons

That would be two jobs simultaneously. Very unrealistic. Not the best of contrasts.

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 797702)
I think. We are gonna be limited to like 10 conveyor belt per house now lol

You can thank Aguzo for that, if it does come to it that way.

Aguzo 10-03-2017 08:43 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 797705)
That would be two jobs simultaneously. Highly unrealistic.

Would combining salaries with your spouse be considered cheating?
The point isn't that I was using multiple accounts, it's that they thought it was impossible to use 3 accounts at the same time, so they assumed I was using macros
https://i.imgur.com/XBm3dzj.png

It's not magic, macros, or any other form of cheats/hacks

Reemas 10-03-2017 09:15 PM

Any thoughts?
 
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 797706)
Would combining salaries with your spouse be considered cheating?
The point isn't that I was using multiple accounts, it's that they thought it was impossible to use 3 accounts at the same time, so they assumed I was using macros
https://i.imgur.com/XBm3dzj.png

It's not magic, macros, or any other form of cheats/hacks



Depends, are you married to yourself? Do you have a cloning machine and care to elaborate on how you came about making one?

Thats using multiple accounts to cheat. Either way the ban is appropriate.

Send your appeal to toonslab, if its bothering you so much. Not supposed to discuss bans on here any way.

Aguzo 10-03-2017 09:24 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 797707)
Depends, are you married to yourself? Do you have a cloning machine and care to elaborate on how you came about making one?

Thats using multiple accounts to cheat. Either way the ban is appropriate.

Send your appeal to toonslab, if its bothering you so much. Not supposed to discuss bans on here any way.

Game Content Updates

GraalOnline reserves the right to make modifications to any and all game content and rules at any time, without notice. GraalOnline has the responsibility to preserve the balance of the game for the majority of the players. Therefore, GraalOnline will routinely add new content, rules, modify existing rules, and even go back and change new content that did not function as expected. These changes can impact your character in a variety of ways. If you feel that the change unfairly penalizes your character, or your character type, given the requirements of balance, challenge, and the general good of the game, then you may make your views known to GraalOnline via GraalOnline Forum. It should be understood, however, that GraalOnline maintains a longer range view which may be in conflict with short-term and character-specific interests, but GraalOnline will always attempt to make the best decision for the overall good of the game.

They could have removed the conveyor belts, or added a limit like zetectic stated. I broke no rules, check the code of conduct

Thallen 10-03-2017 09:25 PM

I'm sure the extremely active and deserving GP Administrator will see this thread and provide you with an insightful reply

Reemas 10-03-2017 09:31 PM

Any thoughts?
 
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 797710)
Game Content Updates

GraalOnline reserves the right to make modifications to any and all game content and rules at any time, without notice. GraalOnline has the responsibility to preserve the balance of the game for the majority of the players. Therefore, GraalOnline will routinely add new content, rules, modify existing rules, and even go back and change new content that did not function as expected. These changes can impact your character in a variety of ways. If you feel that the change unfairly penalizes your character, or your character type, given the requirements of balance, challenge, and the general good of the game, then you may make your views known to GraalOnline via GraalOnline Forum. It should be understood, however, that GraalOnline maintains a longer range view which may be in conflict with short-term and character-specific interests, but GraalOnline will always attempt to make the best decision for the overall good of the game.

They could have removed the conveyor belts, or added a limit like zetectic stated. I broke no rules, check the code of conduct

You can easily edit that document to suit your needs. Either way, you still used multiple accounts to cheat and the ban is appropriate.

Saeed 10-03-2017 09:42 PM

Reemas are you on drugs? when did it become illegal to use multiple accounts?
A different example of Aguzo's one could be a player using two devices to spam two holes/entrances in a tower to defend against the attackers. Or, a player using two devices to spam a player in private messages/guild chat. Or... Yes it does gives him an advantage but, nothing is stopping others from doing the same as what he is doing. It's not hacking nor cheating, it's just outsmarting others. It's like calling someone a cheater for abusing the 'unstuck me' teleportation to get to swamp tower quickly (an example). This is not cheating, it's just using the available options to perform better. Plus, it was never stated by GP and it's not 'obvious' that using multiple accounts to gain an advantage is illegal.

Aguzo 10-03-2017 09:43 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 797712)
You can easily edit that document to suit your needs. Either way, you still used multiple accounts to cheat and the ban is appropriate.

I didn't edit anything, that's exactly what it says. #9
http://www.graalonline.com/docs/conduct?page=3#updates

They added conveyor belts, it's not my fault that I'm able to create 3 farms for 3 accounts
They didn't ban me when I was only using 2, months ago. Today, I make a 3rd one in my guild house, and that's when they decide to ban me
"I don't see how he operate 3 accounts at once without a macro", Snow Noob (admin)


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