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I would put him at 26 right behind red
:')

"The way the spar community works is that if you're positive, you get to talk. While if you are negative, no matter how far it is from positive, you don't get to defend yourself."

I didn't steal this I just forgot the name of the sparrer who said it in their status

I'm not 2:1 but I can kick some serious arse when I'm actually in the mood to spar. Can't beat the nasty foreign WiFi, though, I mean sure I could but you know how it is.

Has spar become more about who has the highest wins or ratio with all of ye? I don't know about anyone else but I'm still learning how to kick more and more arse, even though I'm passed 7k wins.

I don't think there is a way to formally measure sparring skills right now, because there just aren't any formal 1v1 tournaments, only GST. If there were tournaments we'd get a much more accurate skill cap between players, because activity and seasonal wins can come from beating anyone, be that a newer sparrer, intermediate sparrer or advanced sparrer.

Unless ye all want to put together a nice, formal tourney somewhere perhaps we could distinguish the necessary bragging rights to those whom are well-deserving. I believe something like this has been organised this previous year, but I bet there weren't nearly as many players as some of the lists in this thread, upon rankings depicted from those whom believe they qualify for, to have been together to participate in the same tourny, which results in a fairly small niche of 'good' sparrers.

"I got 1st in 205's tourny!" Well, from the lists shown in this thread, how many participated? Inconclusive or very limited results as far as I could see from something like that, as well as the current spar system.

Dante and Sarah have done it

Dante's was open to every single active, strong sparrer: http://challonge.com/graalclassicst
Sarah's was exclusive to past and present Alumni members: http://challonge.com/alumni2016

The finals were literally the exact same - same sparrers, same match score, by the same number of hearts
Not jerking myself off over here, just putting it out there

I also don't think tournaments prove anything because the nature of a tournament is to take a small sample size and make a determination based off that
There are times when Paddie will beat me in 2 out of 3 spars and then she'll lose the next 20 is what I'm saying

Well sometimes that's just how it is, small sample sizes. Players need to be ready to perform. Something I've seen before, similar to a series, is where there will be a best out of 5 system with 3 rounds per match. For example, Thallen vs. Paddie: first round Paddie knocks ye up a little and wins the first couple matches, so 0-2 Paddie. She needs one more to win the first round, but since it's out of 5 you can still come back and win 3 times for the round. So, really, you have to beat her 9 times to win the full match.

So it would look something like this: 3-2 Thallen for round one.

3-1 Thallen for round two.

3-0 Thallen for round three.

And that's that, ye beat her and ye move on. I think that can be very accurate to determine a clear winner in a system like that.

Also, how can ye lose to Paddie?

Jokes, inconsistency is a b****.

No particular Order:

Yurhomi
Pibe
Nathen(Sage)
Brett
Shiden
Noss

That's pretty much it, hurts to see sparring at an all-time low like this where low latency sparers or non defensive sparers are becoming a rarity.

1. Kaios
2. Ruby
3. Scarchaos
4. Jimbo
5. Ale
6. Carly
7. Paddie
8. Pibe jr
9. Qes
10. Goddroon

Honourable mentions: Dia & Memo

I like how this thread is completely composed of trash tier sparrers

it's 2017 making a legitimate list like this is impossible when the competitive aspects of the game are dead as hell. how graal can have 4,000 players online and 20 of those 4,000 people sparring is insane.

1. John
2. Goat
3. Ash
4. Sarah
5. Ryan


Thats all I know :(

Only legit list on this whole thread

JaCkKiNgOfThENoObs would be in my top 10 were he active

How is yami in top 10?

alts

it boils down to spar being dead lol. from 2012-2014 there were alot of skilled sparrers sparring 1vs1 all the time and to be able to go on a 30 streak meant that you were REALLY good because everybody else sparring was decent or really good aswell.
Now theres only 2-3 decent sparrers per room, rarely ever any REALLY good people. So a top 10 sparrer list would be just naming old inactive sparrers which is silly because they don't even spar now.
A better list to do would be top 10 sparrers of all time on iclassic and top 10 sparrers of all time on ALL classic styled servers.1.
In which case I would say ( i dont include people with EXTREME delay because i dont really see it as fair)
Of All Time
1. Brett
2. Crasny
3. 6Jack9
4. Zeroos
5. Zideric
6. Primetime
7. Warhawk
8. David
9. Kevin91
10. Dante