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Islam needs to be seen as a danger

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Posted by PigParty (Post 773612)

Except religions have caused a lot of good. It gives people hope, happiness, and moral guidelines to follow that religious people hold higher than the laws of their land. Based on your logic, you shouldn't be sharing your opinion that you wish religions didn't exist.People are free to believe in whatever they want, not sure what harm it does for someone to ask you to believe in their religion. It's not as if ISIS is going to rational-minded people and turning them into killers. They're already likely to do evil things, extremist groups are just giving them the opportunity.

Sure it has caused good things but nowadays in this day and time we'd be better off having no religion as far as I can tell.

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That entire statement literally makes 0 sense.
I stated that people are free to believe in whatever they want but shouldn't form religious groups.
People who can't believe on their own and feel the need to be part of a religious group in order to live just seem pretty unintelligent to me (I honestly don't even believe anyone requires religion at all though).

Also, nowadays most people are born into religion and didn't get the choice to decide their faith on their own.
Most of these people are basically brainwashed into believing things that have no proof of existing.
What I'm trying to say with this is, religion just seems like a way to brainwash people into following the believe of a specific group of people.
This counts for every single religion hence why I'm against religious groups as a whole even though there are smart individuals out there.

These are my thoughts/views on religion as a whole.
I know my opinion on this won't change so please don't bother trying to convince me otherwise.

Anyways my thoughts about terrorism are pretty simple.
As long as nobody close to me is involved I simply don't care about human lives that much.
(Close to me as in friends, family or even if something would happen near me)

Fact remains that you don't see Radical Christians bombing innocent civilians in record numbers.

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 773585)

the world would be better off without religion

Probably the most appropriately correct thing I've seen TomatoPanda say.

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Posted by Xenthic (Post 773698)

"There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe - without swords, without guns, without conquests. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."

- Muamar al-Gaddafi

That's like quoting Hitler if you want to talk about any type of freedom - lovely.

Even though I despise ignorance.. nah nevermind, this forum is full of ignorance lol.

You people are ****ed.

Even if it's a thread nowhere near the context of religion, you still seem to find a way. I'm not saying that there can't be a possibility of it, but you shift the entire topic and bring in every religion.

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 773736)

Fact remains that you don't see Radical Christians bombing innocent civilians in record numbers.

Yeah, you see "normal" Christians bombing innocent civilians in record numbers only! :'(:'(:'(

Religion doesn't matter, any human killing another without reasons (and I mean real reasons, self-defense) should be kept away and punished instantly.

Anyone who isn't seeing a pattern is delusional.

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Posted by Señor Albonio (Post 774036)

Anyone who isn't seeing a pattern is delusional.

It's not about patterns. It's about not falsely labelling an entire group of people because .1% (or whatever the actual tiny # is) of that group does something. Again, I refer people to this link.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6995111.html

Plus another good article for people who are interested to learn the other side's reasoning.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/opinio...ohn-mcwhorter/

Everyone is probably going to forget this ever happened in the next few weeks so what does it matter anyways.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 774069)

Everyone is probably going to forget this ever happened in the next few weeks so what does it matter anyways.

True, people barely talked about this one at all in the netherlands lol

Isn't that surprising, good thing is that UK is an island.. so it's easier to control guns etc trying to come into country and terrorist can't buy one with a donut like another place. So most terror attacks here are less likely to be that bloodshed- that's not saying it couldn't have been and they could of made bomb or got guns but it's harder here to do that than other places for sure.

I have many muslim friends and have always beleived in the freedom of religion
However,due to recent events I find that feeling of "islamophobia" are completely rational

These radicalist attacks and middle age practices are not compatible with the western world.The only possible way for islam to survive in the western world without conquering would be to reform it.

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 773607)

I wish religion didn't exist.

Believing in things is something you should keep to yourself instead of forming (religious)groups

Religion has done a lot of bad but it has done more good than harm. In an alternate timeline where religion doesn't exist, there is another terrorist group like ISIS that is essentially doing the same thing with a different cause.

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Posted by CM (Post 774209)

i don't agree with this. i do wish religion was abolished. isis is a radical islamic group, and when you are labeled as a radical, that means you try to spread your ideas or beliefs through revolution or violence. so if religion weren't existent, there would be no purpose in isis inciting violence since they don't have any beliefs to spread.