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Zero02 02-07-2012 11:33 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 65797)
Your logic is flawed. Most everyone knows the quality of the staff right now and who is and who isn't doing their jobs. You can't really ask a staff member, "is so and so doing their job right?" because they aren't the ones affected. The players know, aka the name player relations. Not staff relations.

Now back to your point, you're speaking of a rebellion online. It won't go thru. Its not pride. People are literally addicted to this game. However, this would work if you found a game somewhat like Graal, MMO, social, ect and of better quality. But even then, people would still play graal. You can just be like "halt don't play graal cuz we don't like how things are going."

To summarize, the game is going in a bad direction, no doubt. But people will play till they hate the game entirely. That day may soon come. Who knows

I see. But if i was able to lead the riot and there no single player online, i can lead a revolution. And i think this might work, because i know how to lead riots, i pretty sure i can make a riot on era. Plus, doesnt NCJohn able to lead a single riot?

Jester Lapse 02-07-2012 11:38 PM

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Posted by Zero02

I see. But if i was able to lead the riot and there no single player online, i can lead a revolution. And i think this might work, because i know how to lead riots, i pretty sure i can make a riot on era. Plus, doesnt NCJohn able to lead a single riot?

Yes but I'm sure your riots were something small such as gun prices, or fire so and so. Something as dramatic as making everyone "quit" would take hitler style convincing. Trust me, I've lead my riots, and some have started because of me. People do it for the hell of it or cuz they are bored. If you get even 30 people to say they are quitting, I'll respect that. But the question is, can you yourself quit?

Zero02 02-07-2012 11:40 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 65801)
Yes but I'm sure your riots were something small such as gun prices, or fire so and so. Something as dramatic as making everyone "quit" would take hitler style convincing. Trust me, I've lead my riots, and some have started because of me. People do it for the hell of it or cuz they are bored. If you get even 30 people to say they are quitting, I'll respect that. But the question is, can you yourself quit?

Yeah, i havent been on like 3 weeks.

Jester Lapse 02-07-2012 11:49 PM

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Posted by Zero02

Yeah, i havent been on like 3 weeks.

Longest I've been off is two months.

Next question, how does this benefit you at all if you intent on quitting? I mean, what's the point? Also, how will you know if you were successful or not without logging in and breaking your own riot? There are many factors you have to take into consideration. It's not just willy nilly. And who is to say anyone would follow you at all?

Rages 02-08-2012 06:27 PM

Could you please create a new topic for this? It doesn't help anyone if you start a discussion in a topic was originally created for something total different.

MariahNicole 02-08-2012 06:40 PM

I misss u rages!

Jester Lapse 02-08-2012 07:23 PM

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Posted by Rages
Could you please create a new topic for this? It doesn't help anyone if you start a discussion in a topic was originally created for something total different.

No

John 02-08-2012 07:32 PM

Lol she says she's never gonna to post on here again. Well that was a lie.

Jester Lapse 02-08-2012 07:41 PM

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Posted by John J Johnson
Lol she says she's never gonna to post on here again. Well that was a lie.

She's also playing in her iPod on classic. Predictable

Higbey 02-08-2012 09:20 PM

First of all, Mariah you quit. Stay that way. You were fired for a reason and staff that abuse just make everyone else look bad.

Rages, a guild of normal players won't work. Normal players can't tell what the logs have, can't go everywhere or tp or answer feedback, regular players can't do anything.

In order for a riot to work you'd need to stop profit. The only way to stop people from buying gralat packs is if you managed to give everyone tons of money in a way that couldn't be reverted, thus making everyone rich, very hard to do that, even if you were to fly around the gmap dropping $10000000000 every second.

Or make a app that allows you to fake inapp purchases in a way that can't be detected. Still very hard.

The easier way is contradicting, taking down the server. While a sure fire way to cut the profit, managing to subdue graalonlines servers for over a month would be almost impossible unless you had anon on your side.
Even still, getting people to stay and keep bringing it down is hard, almost impossible.

In fact, it would be easier to fly to paris and go to the server building, break in, and blow up all of eurocenters documents, office, servers, and the buildings vitals (electricity and water and such)

And of course, that's pretty insane/ extreme for a game, and probably still wouldnt teach Stefan or Unixmad a lesson.

You literally can't anything about Stefan and Unixmads control on the game legally,


But hey, if your a demolitions expert and don't mind a flight to paris, just ask me.

Sbtrkt 02-08-2012 11:00 PM

hey it's Viper,

I remember when I suddenly couldn't take any damage the other day and used that advantage, I guess most of the people would. I was having fun until a few people were like "Report Him!" or "Hack!!" and I already had a small kill streak, then BBoy warped me on a roof and said it was a bug, obviously I wasn't the only one who this has happened; he reconnected me.

Just wanted to clarify. =o Sorry about that!

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Posted by Boxxi Bearz (Post 62788)
he is on like a 800 ks

I had a 100 KS

John 02-08-2012 11:31 PM

Yes it happened in the past when like so many people couldn't be killed and they all went on a killstreak rampage, it was fun for them but sad for everyone else.

slick 02-09-2012 08:40 PM

ha having a cool lag not being able to die is "hacking" lmfao

Rages 02-09-2012 11:25 PM

An FAQ does not need to teleport, check logs or go everywhere.
FAQ means "(F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions"

So... Not even all PR's can check logs. There is honestly no need for that power as checking them is not required in 99% of cases. Also it would not be a big problem to give players access to staff tools like warping and feedback. Still there is no need for a FAQ to have those rights. If someone wants to talk to a member of the FAQ-crew he could simply invite or pm him. Feedback as you said, is not even useful for the most admin's as they don't develop or feel like forwarding idea's all the time. As I said before our time is limited and we all have a real life as well. Our developers and higher admins are taking care of feedbacks.
I sometimes read the feedback when I feel like it but most of the time player's just flood / spam it with pointless stuff. Same with the reports people send in....

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X: Y for: He say if u give me shovels I wil give u egg Dance I say ok I drop 84 and he go out and scamm on me plz bank him

X: Y for: He scammed me and took 200 shells from me!!

X: I will love to be a adim and I think we should have new guns

X: The admins are corrupt

X: I want kiwi blade
Just to give you an example of high quality feedback / warnings sent in. The problem we have with reports is also that we are often to late to 'see' the crime... We just can't be everywhere.

Remember... scamming is legal. :(

Rok 02-10-2012 04:52 PM

I think what he's saying is it's hard for a normal player to stop a controversy. They don't have any authority over any other players, and therefore get no respect from them. Without respect, or authority, or special powers, it's kind of hard to tell people to stop doing what they're doing just because you want them to.


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