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Fp* 07-08-2016 02:50 PM
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Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 721953)
Holy crap. 5 pages in 11 hours? I'll read this all later but on mobile and I CBA.

Someones already said this probably, but I find it ridiculous how players don't get proof of what they've done. We have logs right? Send them to the player. Or even within reasonable suspicion, we should be thoroughly explainer why they believe that we had done something wrong.

Amer was recently banned because they caught him bugging out. Knowing "[he has] a hacking record" they jailed him. Like wot? Where's the proof in that?

Even just giving the player actual reasoning and proof would also make tickets much easier to justify and send out.

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I agree, i asked for evidence onceon classic so idk about zone, and they didn't give any, so in my mind they didn't have any evidence i did something. so i think there should be something admins can give as proof for a jail or ban.

PigParty 07-08-2016 02:55 PM
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Posted by Fp* (Post 721957)
I agree, i asked for evidence onceon classic so idk about zone, and they didn't give any, so in my mind they didn't have any evidence i did something. so i think there should be something admins can give as proof for a jail or ban.
They don't on Zone either. Honestly evidence wouldn't matter. Most people know what they did, and still deny it. If theh saw evidence, they would say it was photoshopped or rigged in some way and still deny it. The only problem is you need someone trustworthy to review jail appeals.

Fp* 07-08-2016 02:57 PM
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Posted by PigParty (Post 721958)
They don't on Zone either. Honestly evidence wouldn't matter. Most people know what they did, and still deny it. If theh saw evidence, they would say it was photoshopped or rigged in some way and still deny it. The only problem is you need someone trustworthy to review jail appeals.
True, from what i stated above when i asked for evidence, they said they had none, and this was for hacking which i don't hack, i knew i didn't hack, so they unbanned me because they had no proof i did, just some persons word.
And they prob thought i was speed hacking cuz i lagged or something.

Skt A. Sangue 07-08-2016 02:59 PM
On the other hand, most people know what they didn't do and get butthurt because they were never given proof and they still weren't unbanned

Also the logs are bad. I once randomly lost a sabre. I have photos before it happened of me owning a sabre.

Told tash.

There were never any logs of me owning a sabre.

So the logs are trash.


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PigParty 07-08-2016 03:05 PM
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Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 721960)
On the other hand, most people know what they didn't do and get butthurt because they were never given proof and they still weren't unbanned
Also the logs are bad. I once randomly lost a sabre. I have photos before it happened of me owning a sabre.
Told
There were never any logs of me owning a saber
So the logs are trash.
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That glitch happened to me with an electro hat of mine a while ago. I had actually just showed it to Alex a couple days before, and I told him it just vanished from my inventory, so he checked trade logs and saw I never traded it so he added it back to me. There's no log for items you've had, only a list of what you currently have, so no, they wouldn't be able to check that you had a saber beforehand. I got lucky, though.

Weeno 07-08-2016 03:13 PM
Goody two shoes supporting the jail system. jk.

Im gonna have to go with both. Like geno said extreme acts like death threats, sexual harassment, and hacking deserve the jail. Things like cursing deserve ban. Take it from me, one time I got jailed ten rocks just bc I said the word "gay" I swear. And it wasn't in harassment. Sad how admins were butthurt about the word only last year. I guess whoever jailed me was playing around with the new jail system and wanted to jail some

Chelterrar 07-08-2016 03:51 PM
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Posted by Weeno (Post 721963)
lTake it from me, one time I got jailed ten rocks just bc I said the word "gay" I swear. And it wasn't in harassment.

Oh that reminds me. We will also add more words to the swear filter and maybe add more features. But "Gay" is definitely going off the list. It's not an insult, people just use it as one. It's like putting the word "Black" into the swear filter

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Posted by Fp* (Post 721959)
True, from what i stated above when i asked for evidence, they said they had none, and this was for hacking which i don't hack, i knew i didn't hack, so they unbanned me because they had no proof i did, just some persons word.
And they prob thought i was speed hacking cuz i lagged or something.


You guys can always send in a Ticket with a ban appeal. If we have evidence of you doing it, your ban or jail time will not be lifted. If we don't, then we normally make you a free man

Unknown? 07-08-2016 04:48 PM
I like geno's idea. Use that mk. Add both systems.

Chelt, y u no answer my pms? :(

JesterTheCat 07-09-2016 07:03 AM
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Posted by Yog (Post 721815)
My point was done too. I thanked you for your opinion, and said goodbye. Are you suggesting there was something wrong with my response?
Talking about his management while you waste your time arguing about nothing. Please go find something else better to earn up them rep points please because the a Zone staff have better things to do than worry about what you are saying.

Unknown? 07-09-2016 07:09 AM
Removing the jail system was a big mistake.

Erick 07-09-2016 07:20 AM
True^^^ Mining was Fun and Ez.

PigParty 07-09-2016 07:24 AM
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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 722176)
Talking about his management while you waste your time arguing about nothing. Please go find something else better to earn up them rep points please because the a Zone staff have better things to do than worry about what you are saying.
If they have better things to do, then they shouldn't waste their own time by responding to these posts. It's not Yog's fault that Zone staff can't help themselves from responding to posts that they seem to deem pointless and a waste of time.

Erick 07-09-2016 07:28 AM
rekt

Yog 07-09-2016 08:22 AM
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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 722176)
Talking about his management while you waste your time arguing about nothing. Please go find something else better to earn up them rep points please because the a Zone staff have better things to do than worry about what you are saying.
You clearly haven't been on Graalians for a while. There's a whole situation going on with the manager position, and some are feeling cheated over it, and yet seeing how Chelterrar still has the guts to talk as arrogant as he does is sickening. But of course knowing your past attitude you'd be totally fine with such a thing.

Dr.iKyle 07-09-2016 11:16 AM
I want players mining "Rocks" if they are banned beacuse it's players fault why they are banned. But i want the Hours Banned+Same IP Adress banned beacuse they can used Another account to Hack/Harass/Sell For US Dollars i hope Same, IP Adress banning players is work! but about the Kind brother/sister just don't add his/her Brother/sister Jail History :) add them who got banned :)


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