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DanteGraal 03-04-2016 03:08 PM

I'll say no but only if they start working together with the 3 mixed and iDevice champions on what kind of hats that they would like to see. If they don't want to do that, then guilds should be allowed to do small changes on their own.

PigParty 03-04-2016 03:41 PM

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Posted by Incognito (Post 680974)
From someone who has won a GST twice now, me and my VIS bros had to vs. Alumni(CRZ) Silver Rebellious and Sarah's team in one tournament and I can tell you that it is difficult as hell.
system played?

Lol. If you would read my post completely, instead of getting pissed and biased as I said some people would, you would see I said the system can be played. I didn't say it always is. I gave the same example for towering. Try not looking at my post with such bias that you can't see everything being said.

Buffalo 03-04-2016 04:33 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 680571)
Two of my gst hats have been edited. I'm positive if you talk to the maker of the specific hat and either fp4 or xor the hat will be edited, approved and uploaded. I wouldn't bother involving Leah since she is straight up rude and ignorant.

my thoughts exactly

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 680655)
Alrite every1 who voted no has 0 chance of ever getting 1 except inco n winter lol

LOL

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 680739)
wtf winter is alive?

yea she was on a couple days ago.. possibly yesterday i don't remember

GotenGraal 03-04-2016 04:48 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 680969)
Not sure why this is even a discussion. You all may say that GST is much harder than towering, but you can't compare those things because they are entirely separate. Towering's easy if you play the system, join all the other 'pro' towerers and keep getting 1k repeatedly, or even 5k-10k. Of course it's not that difficult then, just time consuming. From someone who had to build his own guild from the start and get it to 1k, I never joined the already-considered 'pro' guilds just to wait until they get 1k and then start my own guild and have everyone transfer over. Me and Gold towered ourselves vs. everyone and I can tell you it's difficult as hell. GST could be easy to win if you're faces vs. bad teams at the beginning, then someone goes offline & your opposing team has only 4 players when you're in the semi-finals, etc. The system can be played. I'm not saying it's easy to win the GST for all those emotionally rampaged people seeing this and are now outraged. I'm simply saying you can't even compare sparring in the GST to towering. A 1k prize is a custom hat. If you make the GST prize a custom hat, then there's no difference. It wouldn't be special at all. The specialty comes from it being one of a few options of hats that can only be added to the game if chosen and won by your guild. The last thing we need is more "custom-made" (because they're all just copies/edits) of anbu masks. Maybe the GST prize needs to be altogether changed; I don't know. However, making it a custom hat is beyond stupid and personally, that devalues the GST prize more than receiving a pre-made hat.

I built my guild from scratch in 2011 n i was a no name buddy. Gsts harder

PigParty 03-04-2016 04:54 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 681003)
I built my guild from scratch in 2011 n i was a no name buddy. Gsts harder

I was too, 'buddy.' You can give a blanket statement with no reasoning behind it, as you just did, but it doesn't mean you're correct. Far from it actually. You can't compare the 2 together, but if you want to so badly, calculate the odds of winning a GST tournament, vs. the odds of getting 1k tower hours. 1k will be thousands of a percent more difficult than winning a GST with 64? teams in the mix. Nice try, but not really. I don't need much arguing anymore if your posts will contain blanket statements with no explanation or reasoning behind it, rather than your pety bias & ignorant opinion. :)

HmongtheSecond 03-04-2016 05:18 PM

as someone who's leading a tower guild rn...
gst is harder.

Skyzer 03-04-2016 05:19 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 681006)
ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant ignorant

I'm happy that you learned a new word today, but you're using it incorrectly.

GotenGraal 03-04-2016 05:47 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 681006)
I was too, 'buddy.' You can give a blanket statement with no reasoning behind it, as you just did, but it doesn't mean you're correct. Far from it actually. You can't compare the 2 together, but if you want to so badly, calculate the odds of winning a GST tournament, vs. the odds of getting 1k tower hours. 1k will be thousands of a percent more difficult than winning a GST with 64? teams in the mix. Nice try, but not really. I don't need much arguing anymore if your posts will contain blanket statements with no explanation or reasoning behind it, rather than your pety bias & ignorant opinion. :)

Dude u started facebook guilds while I was towering with the big boys on the real server. You aren't even known as good in the towering community you clown. And what reasoning do I need? I own a guild with 2,000 hours and 1 gst win. What do I need to explain from that? The Gst win took several tries and was overall much harder to achieve. My opinion is very valid because I've achieved both. How can you even say i'm biased lol

Here's the main difference: any idiot can get 1k, especially nowdays. Any idiot cannot just go out and win a gst.

PigParty 03-04-2016 07:04 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 681028)
Here's the main difference: any idiot can get 1k, especially nowdays. Any idiot cannot just go out and win a gst.

But you won a GST.

Ok that was fuel to the fire. No need to argue when no one elseis putting reason behind theirs. PS. @whatever the dude who's mad I said ignoranf, I know what ignorant means, and it was used correctly. :) I find it funny some people take my post so seriously as if I have the final word. I don't even play classic anymore, haha. I just gave my opinion. And @Goten, I never said I was a towering legend lol. I said I did tower, because I did, a lot. I started on iPhone server with Gold. We got over 100 hrs (and we struggled a hell of a lot because as I said, we weren't a part of those hat chasers that go from 1k to 1k (Yea I just used a double parenthesis. We later jumped 1k to 1k once we got our name/ability out, but at the beginning, we didn't :))) <- I think that closes all my parenthesis. I'm above caring what the community thinks of me, or lack-thereof. However, you pretend like I only led guilds on FB server, which isn't the case at all. I led multipke guilds on iPhone server too. I used the FB server to build up my loyal members who stuck with me through multiple guilds, just like the guilds do now and have been doing for years. As I said, it's easy to get 1k when you just get hat chasing members who hop from guild to guild. For a beginner guild to start up and achieve 1k without those guild hopping members is a lot harder. That's a whole different discussion for how the towering system should be improved. Also if you read my first post, I recommended changing the GST reward entirely so it's unique. I also never once said towering is easier than winning the GST. In fact I said they cannot be compared. I also said that allowing custom hats for winning the GST would just devalue that even more. They're already so common because of guild hopping. Why couldn't there be a unique sword that is actually equipped when you walk as the prize, or something different? I know classic likes to keep it simple, but if they were to change the prize from a staff-made hat, it shouldn't be changed to a custom-made hat.

Incognito 03-04-2016 08:03 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 680982)
Lol. If you would read my post completely, instead of getting pissed and biased as I said some people would, you would see I said the system can be played. I didn't say it always is. I gave the same example for towering. Try not looking at my post with such bias that you can't see everything being said.

no lel gst system can not be played sry budy

P1 03-04-2016 08:11 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 681057)
But you won a GST.

I said I did tower, because I did, a lot. I started on iPhone server with Gold. We got over 100 hrs (and we struggled a hell of a lot because as I said, we weren't a part of those hat chasers that go from 1k to 1k (Yea I just used a double parenthesis. We later jumped 1k to 1k once we got our name/ability out, but at the beginning, we didn't :))) <- I think that closes all my parenthesis. I'm above caring what the community thinks of me, or lack-thereof. However, you pretend like I only led guilds on FB server, which isn't the case at all. I led multipke guilds on iPhone server too. I used the FB server to build up my loyal members who stuck with me through multiple guilds, just like the guilds do now and have been doing for years. As I said, it's easy to get 1k when you just get hat chasing members who hop from guild to guild. For a beginner guild to start up and achieve 1k without those guild hopping members is a lot harder.

Lmao, no one asked you for your life story.

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Posted by PigParty (Post 681057)
Why couldn't there be a unique sword that is actually equipped when you walk as the prize, or something different?

Custom swords already exist, not sure if you're aware of that.

PigParty 03-04-2016 08:21 PM

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Posted by *Dae (Post 681088)
Lmao, no one asked you for your life story.



Custom swords already exist, not sure if you're aware of that.

You're clearly not understanding what I said. No one asked you if you cared about my life story. I'll dumb it down for you. A custom sword that can be equipped. It would be like a melee from any other server. It could then be bigger, be put on the player's back, maybe even have an aura or leave an aura for a few seconds on a player it hits. Who knows. Dumbed down enough for ya? I'm trying to not make people look foolish but others make it so difficult.

David 03-04-2016 08:21 PM

IDK what this guy is even talking about, the harder thing to accomplish should have the better reward

/topic

Yog 03-04-2016 08:23 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 681094)
A custom sword that can be equipped. It would be like a melee from any other server. It could then be bigger, be put on the player's back, maybe even have an aura or leave an aura for a few seconds on a player it hits. Who knows.

Gross

PigParty 03-04-2016 08:24 PM

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Posted by David (Post 681095)
IDK what this guy is even talking about, the harder thing to accomplish should have the better reward

/topic

Isn't this thread only about GST? Other people (I didn't read all the posts here so idk who) brought towering into this. You're basically suggesting towering to 1k shouldn't have a custom hat reward then. I'm focusing on GST, rather than towering, as some people seem to be focusing on.

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Posted by Yog (Post 681096)
Gross

ur gross.


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