your right. Your not trying to be an arrogant child. Nice one. try that in a business meeting when you disagree with someone

It's not really a disagreement as you've implied that every hat chaser joins at 650+ and are not helpful as if it was fact

Look. I know someone, he won the hat but he started at 800h. And another player join at 300 and won nothing, and they played the same time in the guild.
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Its not about when you join but how much you help , for an example I know a dude who joined a guild at 100 hours but he would aaaalways afk when leader went off and then a dude joined at 600 and ended up getting the hat unlike the other dude , the key is being active and helpful , I hate arrogant people who are in a guild since 100 and you joined at like 300 so they instantly think they are better than you / more important

So?

In Voxel, I had a member who was a really close friend of mine, had even met with them IRL before. She joined at ~150ish, did nothing but chat and stand around, and I included several people on the hat list that joined long after she did, because they did more for the guild. She didn't argue either; she pretty much understood.

It's the leader's discretion to say who deserves the hat and who doesn't. It's not hard to draw conclusions on if someone will screw over their members and give hats to randoms, sell hat spots, etc. As a member, you have your own responsibilities (to yourself) to only join a guild with a mature and fair leader if your intention is to get the hat.

Tbh thallen you was probably one the best leader i had in 1 guilds ( if not tht best) and I agree with the above , it's not perticulary how active you are but how much you actually do .lets take sards for an example , a lot of " active " members ussualy stand by te corridor stairs blocking it , which is in fact affective and not a bad tactic , but some players take initiative and defend the first stairs and hall way with sub tags which is very affective and in the end more helpful

You've run out of valid argument so now you're resolving to bring a arrogant kid so I chose to no longer to really to your stupidness.

Heartbroken but Resilient
 

I feel ur pain. I was with ani3u since 390h and scammed. Objection since 490 and scammed. Brawl since 400 h and scammed.on my old acc I had ev1l 1k , blAck laebel 1k and futur3 1k. My old acc got all. Those hats. It brings heartbreak :\. IT GETS SO ANNOYING. I LOVE TOWERING AND I LIKE HATS BUT DOES THAT MEAN IM A HAT CHASER? WTF. JUST CAUSE I LOST MY OLD ACC WITH 3 GUILD HATS AND IM BACK LOW DOESNT MEAN THAT I CANT GET HAT? AND PLUS, MOST GUILDS LEAVE HAT SPOTS OPEN AND ONLY GIVE TO LEADS AND NOT TEMPS, OR THE REST WILL HAVE THEIR NOOB ACCS TO FILL THE HAT SPOTS