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Viper 07-28-2014 07:36 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 493989)
Viper, the whole world would end if that happened lmao

You are right. This is only the case because of Nuclear weapons and Mutually Assured Destruction, if it was not for this the rest of the world would have intervened a long time ago... The U.S., the E.U. and it's puppets with the exception of small parts of Germany and Switzerland produce nothing of value anymore and the world would not miss them if their mass murdering war mongering tyrannies just vanished. But again the whole world would end because these sick people would kill the rest of the world with them rather than go in peace.

I am saying this as an informed and educated United States citizen. I love what the United States with it's Constitution and Bill of Rights was supposed to be. But I hate what it has become and actually is.

Colin 07-28-2014 07:41 PM

So glad I'm Canadian

Viper 07-28-2014 07:41 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 494221)
First off I believe that USA is pretty poor in terms of human rights at times, not as bad as Russia or China however. Look at the recent events in the Ukraine. Russia stole the Crimea under false pretences and are helping to destabilise the rest of the Ukraine. Also let us get one thing straight, US and Frances education systems have no influence on me at all so no idea why you brought them up.

Wow are you misinformed and brainwashed by U.S. mainstream propaganda. For your information the Ukraine had a legitimately elected government, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraini...election,_2010 then the U.S. came in and flooded the nation with Nazi terrorists and replaced it's leaders with unelected state department puppets. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-neo...kraine/5373232 Then part of the Ukraine VOTED http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...mea-referendum to secede to Russia as opposed to being controlled by these psychopathic Nazi murderers. The vote to secede was real, willing and legitimate, certainly more legitimate than any U.S. diebold election. Russia has used nothing but restraint in dealing with this illegitimate mass murdering psycopathic Poroshenko neo nazi coup state. Also virtually all accusation against Russia have had no real evidence and the people making the lies http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/...ind-plane.html http://rt.com/news/175944-russia-ukr...er-inspection/ against russia have been proven to be liars countless times again and again.

lord greg 07-28-2014 07:45 PM

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Posted by Viper (Post 494225)
Wow are you misinformed and brainwashed by U.S. mainstream propaganda. For your information the Ukraine had a legitimately elected government, then the U.S. came in and flooded the nation with Nazi terrorists and replaced it's leaders with unelected state department puppets. Then part of the Ukraine VOTED to secede to Russia as opposed to being controlled by these psychopathic Nazi murderers. The vote to secede was real, willing and legitimate, certainly more legitimate than any U.S. diebold election. Russia has used nothing but restraint in dealing with this illegitimate mass murdering psycopathic Poroshenko neo nazi coup state. Also virtually all accusation against Russia have had no real evidence and the people making the lies against russia have been proven to be liars countless times again and again.

You do realise I am from the UK right? The Ukrainian democracy failed when the leadership decided to ignore what the people wanted which was closer ties with the EU. The proof is the fact that the Pro EU faction took power and brought stability to the country. Then Russia annexed the Crimea while saying they had no troops there. Sounds fishy. Russia is still supplying the rebels with weaponry to destabilise the country to force them to cosy up to them instead of the EU. Russia is led by a power hungry brute who will stop at nothing to bring back the Soviet bloc.

MementoJoker 07-28-2014 08:07 PM

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Posted by Viper (Post 493988)
I feel the world would be better off if Russia, China and others teamed up and kicked their ass.

Ayy lmao

Ghettoicedtea 07-29-2014 12:51 AM

Viper is a damn commie. Looks like he needs some murica

iHot 07-29-2014 03:35 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 494392)
Viper is a damn commie. Looks like he needs some murica

Yeah I'm sure the evil and incompetence that will be coursing through his veins will be great. Keep the "murica" stuff to yourself. Any country that gives $3.1 billion USD to an apartheid state that doesn't need it instead of spending it on it's own people is no country at all.

Politicians don't fight for Americans they fight for AIPAC and large American industries.

The Republicans are trying to impeach the President!

FAILURE COUNTRY.

Kendama 07-29-2014 04:17 AM

Can we not insult others on this thread and stop making assumptions on people? It makes this thread feel less informative to read when people are insulting others logic just because they have opinions- such as that the US education system is supposedly trash. That is an opinion/personal experience, is not relevant, and it is not an appropriate way to try to shoot down someones comments.

To the recent posts: I would just like to state America has it's good points and bad points. Sure, we have had our fair share of humane rights violations mostly associated with our removal of Native Americans, Internment Camps for Japanese during WW2, and yes many could say that some of our recent wars have just been wars for oil which could partially be proved true.

However, America is not a dictatorship of any kind. Last time I checked, a dictator would not allow you under any circumstances to have an array of rifles and shotguns including a Barrett 50 Cal. inside of your personal household- in which my family can completely legally do so without issues.

I am not hating on anybody else's country because it seems they all of our countries are going to have major flaws, I know plenty of flaws that exist in the US- but it doesn't mean we are a "fail country" :) The world is a different place in this modern age and infrastructure is much more delicate with the evolution of the media and the internet. Governments have changed all over the world and it isn't my favorite thing to see, but there has to be a point where you can understand where they are coming from. We have a threat of nuclear/chemical war that we all have to be sensitive about and learn how to keep anyone from pulling those triggers.

Ghettoicedtea 07-29-2014 04:18 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 494447)
Yeah I'm sure the evil and incompetence that will be coursing through his veins will be great. Keep the "murica" stuff to yourself. Any country that gives $3.1 billion USD to an apartheid state that doesn't need it instead of spending it on it's own people is no country at all.

Politicians don't fight for Americans they fight for AIPAC and large American industries.

The Republicans are trying to impeach the President!

FAILURE COUNTRY.

Thats actually all going to change with the 28th ammendment that states companies and industrys will not be recongized as people.

MementoJoker 07-29-2014 04:37 PM

LET'S JUST GET THIS STRAIGHT:
If Hamas stops firing rockets all of this will end.

lord greg 07-29-2014 05:05 PM

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Posted by MementoJoker (Post 494532)
LET'S JUST GET THIS STRAIGHT:
If Hamas stops firing rockets all of this will end.

This is very true. They act like the victims but they caused the trouble there now by digging those tunnels and firing those rockets.

noroup 07-29-2014 06:16 PM

It's so sad... But Israel is showing that it can protect its people. This all started from those 3 murders of Israel Children now thousands of innocent Palestinians and being killed. The worst part is, those Palestinians have NOWHERE to go. They are TRAPPED it's horrible. IDF should back off they've done enough damage

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Posted by Viper (Post 493988)
The United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, U.K., France and NATO are a gang of war criminals and terrorists that consistently harass, mass murder and genocide innocent sovereign nations and peoples for frivolous, made up and BS reasons. The War Crimes and death toll of civilians committed by these collective thug entities are starting to dwarf even that of WW2. I love the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the U.S., but the Government is illegitimate and does not follow them. At this point I feel the world would be better off if Russia, China and others teamed up and kicked their ass.

I agree

5hift 07-29-2014 08:17 PM

So America is doing bad?

Not like the rest of the world is doing any better.

I'm thinking most if not all of you should stfu about the mistakes of nations and start thinking about how the world can fix itself.

iHot 07-29-2014 11:00 PM

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Posted by MementoJoker (Post 494532)
LET'S JUST GET THIS STRAIGHT:
If Hamas stops firing rockets all of this will end.

Hamas shooting rockets in my opinion is somewhat justified. I don't want to see any Israeli civilian killed (even though they cheer when Innocent Palestinians are killed). I do however believe that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is appalling and Israel's right wing government is doing nothing to alleviate the pain of the Gazan people. I'm also particularly saddened with the Egyptian government's stance on the whole ordeal. El-Sisi gave the blessing for Israel to invade Gaza. Israel's invasion has only strengthened support for the Qassam brigades who have thus far killed 50-something Israeli soldiers.

One thing I think of when I think of Israel is something from the Bible. Revelation 2:9.

"I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."

We know who the Synagogue of Satan is. I don't need to say it.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 494595)
So America is doing bad?

Not like the rest of the world is doing any better.

I'm thinking most if not all of you should stfu about the mistakes of nations and start thinking about how the world can fix itself.


Norway, Finland are good examples of what America should strive to be.

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Posted by noroup (Post 494555)
It's so sad... But Israel is showing that it can protect its people. This all started from those 3 murders of Israel Children now thousands of innocent Palestinians and being killed. The worst part is, those Palestinians have NOWHERE to go. They are TRAPPED it's horrible. IDF should back off they've done enough damage



I agree


The Israeli army has said a lone cell killed those three boys. It wasn't Hamas. Israel is pathetic. They have one of the greatest armies yet they're killing all civilians. This is systematic genocide. Hamas doesn't use people as human shields. There is no evidence to back that up.

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Posted by lord greg (Post 494539)
This is very true. They act like the victims but they caused the trouble there now by digging those tunnels and firing those rockets.


They've been the victims. Gaza is the worlds largest open air prison. It's blockaded by Israel and Egypt. But why listen to me? Hear it from a Gazan teen.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/30/u2y7egag.jpg

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 494527)
Thats actually all going to change with the 28th ammendment that states companies and industrys will not be recongized as people.


I hope. Then we'll just need to rid America of AIPAC and then the true freedom the founding fathers spoke of can be known to the masses.

noroup 07-30-2014 02:12 AM

Yeah they shouldn't take 3 murders of Israel children out on thousands of people. Especially those who can't even defend themselves.

I agree that it's a genocide


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