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Crono 05-05-2014 07:51 PM
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i missed u
:blush:

Cookie Xanadu 05-05-2014 07:57 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 468241)
Subscription plans, plain and simple. Graal decided to use subscriptions, and it simply wasn't worth it. Very, very slowly some servers started to move towards free-access with gralatshops(where you could buy in-game items with IRL money) but it took too long.

Do realize Graal was asking I think... $40 a month to play. I may be wrong though, as I never actually purchased any subscriptions.

Just... very, very poor marketing on administration end, and the servers suffered because of it.
It was something like 40$ CAD/USD at the time for a life time Classic subscription, and like 30$ for Zone Gold

Vladamir Blackthorne 05-05-2014 08:03 PM
Well, I do know that since the NPC-run "Era Police' gang now has a gang gun, which is adequately powerful, "expensive guns'' is less valid of a turn-off, but still, if you wan't anything for extra versatility like Neo Rifle or RPG, the prices are still kinda ridiculous seeing as how it's expected that most players can get nearly 100k at a rate of about 100 bucks in a few minutes in the mines or shoveling without any sort of way to buy graalats (unless you USD) like in iEra.

Draco 05-06-2014 06:09 PM
It isn't that popular because who would want to pay about $10 monthly to be successful on there. Also, most of the people on the iDevice version of the game don't even know that there is even a PC version. That is why most of the people that are mainly iDevice users cry over not getting the PR job because they either lie about knowing about RC, or they say that they don't know how to use the RC because they don't have a clue about what it is. They just presume that if you say the PC version of Era, they are thinking Facebook Era. Also, who would want to start all over knowing everything about the iDevice version, and thinking that the same rules that apply on iEra apply to the PC version.

So, this situation is not because people don't like it, it is just they don't know about it.

Distorted 05-06-2014 06:51 PM
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Posted by Draco (Post 472405)
It isn't that popular because who would want to pay about $10 monthly to be successful on there. Also, most of the people on the iDevice version of the game don't even know that there is even a PC version. That is why most of the people that are mainly iDevice users cry over not getting the PR job because they either lie about knowing about RC, or they say that they don't know how to use the RC because they don't have a clue about what it is. They just presume that if you say the PC version of Era, they are thinking Facebook Era. Also, who would want to start all over knowing everything about the iDevice version, and thinking that the same rules that apply on iEra apply to the PC version.

So, this situation is not because people don't like it, it is just they don't know about it.

Oh and I hate myself.
Yeah I feel like they should promote it more, than lots of people would play, and I don't mean like on tv I mean on other graal servers aha.

GOAT 05-06-2014 07:34 PM
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Posted by Draco (Post 472405)
So, this situation is not because people don't like it, it is just they don't know about it.
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Yeah I feel like they should promote it more
mind = blown:love:

Draco 05-07-2014 06:37 PM
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Posted by Distorted (Post 472414)
Yeah I feel like they should promote it more, than lots of people would play, and I don't mean like on tv I mean on other graal servers aha.
Yea, but it would be annoying to see a mass of people on there pming everyone, "where do I get gunz?"

Cookie Xanadu 05-16-2014 10:43 PM
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Posted by Distorted (Post 472414)
Yeah I feel like they should promote it more, than lots of people would play, and I don't mean like on tv I mean on other graal servers aha.
Only problem is that there's a lot of hate towards iOS players. Not sure if it's anywheres near as bad as it used to be, but holy hell it was bad. Now they just have to put up with general assholes like they fine in iEra!

GOAT 05-16-2014 11:55 PM
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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 474579)
Only problem is that there's a lot of hate towards iOS players. Not sure if it's anywheres near as bad as it used to be, but holy hell it was bad. Now they just have to put up with general assholes like they fine in iEra!
I think there was a lot of resentment because iphoners were able to make graal somewhat successful.



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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 474579)
Only problem is that there's a lot of hate towards iOS players. Not sure if it's anywheres near as bad as it used to be, but holy hell it was bad. Now they just have to put up with general assholes like they fine in iEra!
with more recognized names from pc working on ios servers and players from pc making the transition to the iphone world I think it has helped in reducing the hate/anger towards the iphoners.

Cookie Xanadu 05-17-2014 12:54 AM
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Posted by GOAT (Post 474590)
I think there was a lot of resentment because iphoners were able to make graal somewhat successful.




with more recognized names from pc working on ios servers and players from pc making the transition to the iphone world I think it has helped in reducing the hate/anger towards the iphoners.

A lot of it was bandwagoning hate while others just hated them because it was a new Era that had a lot of players. Then again, it could also be that the player base is full 10 year olds that think they're tough ****. I don't really know.

GOAT 05-17-2014 05:03 PM
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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 474607)
Then again, it could also be that the player base is 10 years old and think they're tough ****. I don't really know.
i think everyone has their own reasons for hating the iphone master race, but this is the funniest one ive seen. -----V

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Posted by spooon from graal reborn
To the ******* who think they have been here long enough to feel superior to people who are just joining, if you've joined within the last two years odds are that you're just like them. You're probably from the iPhone Graal servers, and while you may have "given up" playing iGraal you're still tainted in my eyes.
^----lol btw its from a old thread so he might of had a change of heart.



http://forums.graal.in/forums/showth...s-than-2-years

Cookie Xanadu 05-17-2014 06:23 PM
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Posted by GOAT (Post 474721)
i think everyone has their own reasons for hating the iphone master race, but this is the funniest one ive seen. -----V


^----lol btw its from a old thread so he might of had a change of heart.



http://forums.graal.in/forums/showth...s-than-2-years

Just to clarify: I meant that a large majority of the playerbase for the iServers are 10 year olds. I kind of messed up there, but yeah.

Draco 05-28-2014 06:28 PM
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Posted by John (Post 468181)
^ when you can get the game on ios for free.
It wasn't always free you know.

Torankusu 06-07-2014 05:55 AM
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Posted by Draco (Post 477026)
It wasn't always free you know.
Right, and here's the difference:

PC Graal required a yearly subscription. That subscription cost was considerably MORE than the initial download cost of an iOS or android app.

Phantos 06-07-2014 06:13 AM
I think the price point was the biggest reason for any Graal Client servers to be less popular. Then there's a lack of easy advertisement, i.e. iOS recommendations coupled with Facebook notifications = huge presence compared to the word of mouth sustaining 15 year old servers on client. That the communities are not entirely welcoming is another matter, but I don't think it factors in nearly as much.


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