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Tyler 11-27-2011 02:25 PM

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Posted by Furryamigo (Post 37227)
You cry a lot.

Nothing wrong with stating my opinion.

Rezon 11-27-2011 02:56 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 37272)
Nothing wrong with stating my opinion.

I can see the tears in your opinion.

Tyler 11-27-2011 03:27 PM

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Posted by Rezon (Post 37281)
I can see the tears in your opinion.

I make some valid points. If you choose to not accept them then that's your choice. I know you use PC too so I wouldn't expect you to go against it.

Winter 11-27-2011 03:50 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 36895)
...We can't run up in a straight line or run in one spot without moving with the controls...

You can run up can't you? And who says you can't stand still and wait for an opponent in a spar? no actual advantage, the person is still in the same place. Don't even say it looks like lag, because lag is unpredictable and unfair.
Cannot be brought into this.

When I spar on my iPod, I tend to spar more offensively. As long as I can dodge their defense, I can get a hit in without them facing my direction. Learn what works for you. You can't spar everyone the same way. Everyone is different, adapt to it.

Tyler 11-27-2011 03:59 PM

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Posted by Shannon (Post 37304)
You can run up can't you? And who says you can't stand still and wait for an opponent in a spar? no actual advantage, the person is still in the same place. Don't even say it looks like lag, because lag is unpredictable and unfair.
Cannot be brought into this.

When I spar on my iPod, I tend to spar more offensively. As long as I can dodge their defense, I can get a hit in without them facing my direction. Learn what works for you. You can't spar everyone the same way. Everyone is different, adapt to it.

I think you know as well as I do when people lag really bad when they're running they look like they're running in one spot and not moving on a persons screen. This is just annoying me. You guys aren't getting the whole run in a straight line thing. We can't do it. Yeah we can run, but so can you, but we can't run up in a straight line. If we can't do it why should PC be able to do it? You honestly don't know how irritating it is when people do that in spar.

Winter 11-27-2011 04:13 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 37309)
I think you know as well as I do when people lag really bad when they're running they look like they're running in one spot and not moving on a persons screen. This is just annoying me. You guys aren't getting the whole run in a straight line thing. We can't do it. Yeah we can run, but so can you, but we can't run up in a straight line. If we can't do it why should PC be able to do it? You honestly don't know how irritating it is when people do that in spar.

Umm I do...

Fact is, it gives the player a psychological advantage instead of a physical one. If the game itself is still fair, why not train your mind to work around these obstacles?

I promise you don't know it, but it is helping you get better. If PC users had a power 3 sword, that would be something I would complain about.

Tyler 11-27-2011 04:19 PM

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Posted by Shannon (Post 37320)
Umm I do...

Fact is, it gives the player a psychological advantage instead of a physical one. If the game itself is still fair, why not train your mind to work around these obstacles?

I promise you don't know it, but it is helping you get better. If PC users had a power 3 sword, that would be something I would complain about.

I actually stopped sparring because of PC. Too much of a hassle to deal with. I only spar on some occasions now. You'd be surprised by how many people have a problem with it.

Winter 11-27-2011 04:27 PM

Where I come from, that's called "wussing out." I spar less because of the increase of lag lately. You wouldn't believe how many people have a problem with that.

Tyler 11-27-2011 04:36 PM

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Posted by Shannon (Post 37333)
Where I come from, that's called "wussing out." I spar less because of the increase of lag lately. You wouldn't believe how many people have a problem with that.

I don't know what to tell you except that is really the only solution right now. PC sparring in my opinion is cheap and I'm not going to let anyone tell me otherwise. You guys have your opinion and I have mine. That's all there is to it. Bring on the hate messages. I'm done arguing about this. I didn't even want to get involved because I knew a big debate would break out. That's all I have to say for this thread.

NiTe 11-27-2011 10:22 PM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 36598)
Not for some people. Not everyone can tolerate sparring anymore ever since the PC was introduced. There are always loads of complaints from people about it. I'm surprised it's not only aloud on the Facebook server like they do for the guild spar tourneys.

if you just believe in yourself..JUST BELIEVE.

fp4 11-27-2011 10:34 PM

There is definitely an advantage for PC users which is why they were prevented from entering the Classic iPhone GST.

The hardware advantage allows them to actually move faster and more accurately despite there being a bonus speed increase for iOS/Mobile devices.

I've said it before but letting PC players enter the iPhone world was a terrible idea. Facebook probably wouldn't of been such a desolate world if VIP didn't let them visit the iPhone world.

Higbey 11-27-2011 11:03 PM

VIP: because it's not technically p2p.

Yephenpeace 11-28-2011 03:45 AM

All this arguing is really pointless. Regardless of what some people say, PC sparring has advantages that ipod sparring does not. To make this entirely fair they could simply make PC sparring only possible on the facebook server and iDevice sparring on the iphone server. This is litterally an amazing idea. Anyone have any rebuddle to this that actually holds validity rather than attempting to insult one another?

fp4 11-28-2011 05:06 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 37694)
All this arguing is really pointless. Regardless of what some people say, PC sparring has advantages that ipod sparring does not. To make this entirely fair they could simply make PC sparring only possible on the facebook server and iDevice sparring on the iphone server. This is litterally an amazing idea. Anyone have any rebuddle to this that actually holds validity rather than attempting to insult one another?

It's too late to cut them completely off from sparring. That said there's no reason why certain spar rooms can't be designated as mobile/iOS only.

Yephenpeace 11-28-2011 06:08 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 37733)
It's too late to cut them completely off from sparring. That said there's no reason why certain spar rooms can't be designated as mobile/iOS only.

It wouldn't be cutting them off from sparring at all. Everyone who uses a PC to spar has access to the facebook server. It would just make spars more evenly matched, while giving the facebook server more of a playerbase.


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