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Emera 06-12-2013 03:48 PM

Fair enough.

iHot 06-12-2013 03:49 PM

This may sound cruel but iEra needs to deliver HARSH punishment on someone. An example to the iEra community.

Ghettoicedtea 06-12-2013 04:01 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 366264)
I like the one warning idea and ghetto's instant jail idea. Racism has been the cause of almost every war in history and should not be tolerated

actually its racism, supplies, politics, and religion.

Mystickk 06-12-2013 04:24 PM

Seeing how John has posted what people report, you guys need to buckle down on these unneeded reports.
1. They're getting in the way of the real reports
2. Make a punishment for false reports, where they can't use it for an amount of time? Or something else, not sure.

Ya I know numerous people use the report system when unneeded, so I don't know how you'd get to solve that problem.

For the racism - no matter where you go it's always there. Because of the false reports, I'm sure staff won't be able to get to the racist person on time, letting them get away with it. People always find a way to avoid the swear filter, which means if people keep limiting it, it will just turn into phrased chat. Someone had already said that, can't remember who/where, but I agree.

Ventus277 06-12-2013 05:03 PM

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Posted by Mystickk (Post 366567)
Seeing how John has posted what people report, you guys need to buckle down on these unneeded reports.
1. They're getting in the way of the real reports
2. Make a punishment for false reports, where they can't use it for an amount of time? Or something else, not sure.

Ya I know numerous people use the report system when unneeded, so I don't know how you'd get to solve that problem.

For the racism - no matter where you go it's always there. Because of the false reports, I'm sure staff won't be able to get to the racist person on time, letting them get away with it. People always find a way to avoid the swear filter, which means if people keep limiting it, it will just turn into phrased chat. Someone had already said that, can't remember who/where, but I agree.

For now Im liking a complete block of chat and messaging if needed.

I also like the idea of a crime history on an individual. So that admins who deal a punishment don't have to do it based on their firsthand experience with them.

I'm all for a harsh punishment. An example should be made and a message sent out. A one week ban is something that can be tried.

Mystickk 06-12-2013 05:12 PM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 366575)
For now Im liking a complete block of chat and messaging if needed.

I also like the idea of a crime history on an individual. So that admins who deal a punishment don't have to do it based on their firsthand experience with them.

I'm all for a harsh punishment. An example should be made and a message sent out. A one week ban is something that can be tried.

Not a bad idea :3

99% 06-12-2013 05:23 PM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 366575)
For now Im liking a complete block of chat and messaging if needed.

I also like the idea of a crime history on an individual. So that admins who deal a punishment don't have to do it based on their firsthand experience with them.

I'm all for a harsh punishment. An example should be made and a message sent out. A one week ban is something that can be tried.

Back when I was staff (not that long ago really but they might have changed it since then) three warnings resulted in an auto-jail. So whenever staff encounter a problem, they'd warn them. If this player was warned twice before, even by other staff, they'd end up in jail. So in a way it's a type of crime history. I also hazily remember being able to see what this player has been warned and jailed for previously. So there may already be a criminal history system in place.

iHot 06-12-2013 06:54 PM

You're all advocating solutions that either put intense amount of pressure on staff or censor the player. Look if I call someone a racist name and am censored and banned for it I will come to resent the game and quit. I'm close to saying forget it. Unless the iEra administration wants to hire denizens of PR's to combat racism then there's no way this will go away. You can't defeat a problem without killing its source.

99% 06-12-2013 06:56 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 366616)
You're all advocating solutions that either put intense amount of pressure on staff or censor the player. Look if I call someone a racist name and am censored and banned for it I will come to resent the game and quit. I'm close to saying forget it. Unless the iEra administration wants to hire denizens of PR's to combat racism then there's no way this will go away. You can't defeat a problem without killing its source.

They're already hiring hordes of 'em. 'Bout time they were put to good use.

iHot 06-12-2013 07:12 PM

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Posted by Mystickk (Post 366567)
Seeing how John has posted what people report, you guys need to buckle down on these unneeded reports.
1. They're getting in the way of the real reports
2. Make a punishment for false reports, where they can't use it for an amount of time? Or something else, not sure.

Ya I know numerous people use the report system when unneeded, so I don't know how you'd get to solve that problem.

For the racism - no matter where you go it's always there. Because of the false reports, I'm sure staff won't be able to get to the racist person on time, letting them get away with it. People always find a way to avoid the swear filter, which means if people keep limiting it, it will just turn into phrased chat. Someone had already said that, can't remember who/where, but I agree.

1.agreed

2. Completely disagree. What you're suggesting will destroy the staff team. To deliver punishment on everyone who sent in a useless report will be a tedious and time consuming task.

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Posted by 99% (Post 366617)
They're already hiring hordes of 'em. 'Bout time they were put to good use.

It's a trend I sadly notice with PR/GP. They're never there when you need them. Always hosting events and never moderating the game. The fact this happens is sad.

But who knows? Maybe I'm being ignorant and they really are doing something. I'm not an admin so I wouldn't know.

DragonRider 06-12-2013 07:19 PM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 366533)
The irony in our posts then as you're saying the same thing.



Ill agree children behind the screen of their device will be racist. The point of the thread is to stop what happens faster, not censor it although jesters total block idea would work perfectly. I've watched this go on long enough to sit around and am speaking out dragon can be a **** over the Internet all he wants. The fact his trolling doesn't benefit the thread is obvious.

Our posts are completely different, but if you're referring to the bottom portion, thats a preview of What the thread will degrade into.
Your so called "trolling" is an opinion, and my blunders is usually being mistaked for rudeness.

Mystickk 06-12-2013 07:28 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 366618)
Completely disagree. What you're suggesting will destroy the staff team. To deliver punishment on everyone who sent in a useless report will be a tedious and time consuming task.

I'm sorry, but I heard that if anyone were to abuse the report system they would be dealt with. I can't remember if it was an in-game broadcast, or on the forums.


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Posted by Mystickk (Post 366567)
Ya I know numerous people use the report system when unneeded, so I don't know how you'd get to solve that problem.

This would answer to you iHot. I already knew it would be a time wasting task, that's why I said I wouldn't know how they could solve that issue, without making a big fuss about who to punish.

Ventus277 06-12-2013 07:37 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 366616)
You're all advocating solutions that either put intense amount of pressure on staff or censor the player. Look if I call someone a racist name and am censored and banned for it I will come to resent the game and quit. I'm close to saying forget it. Unless the iEra administration wants to hire denizens of PR's to combat racism then there's no way this will go away. You can't defeat a problem without killing its source.

I think it is up to the player whether they block someone. If it comes down to blocking what you see them type I'm all for it. It's on many MMOs for a reason Era wouldn't be a first to do it.

iHot 06-12-2013 08:09 PM

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Posted by Ventus277 (Post 366636)
I think it is up to the player whether they block someone. If it comes down to blocking what you see them type I'm all for it. It's on many MMOs for a reason Era wouldn't be a first to do it.

Thanks for bringing up the block system. The block system is the answer to all our problems. Era should encourage people to use the block system.

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Posted by Mystickk (Post 366630)
I'm sorry, but I heard that if anyone were to abuse the report system they would be dealt with. I can't remember if it was an in-game broadcast, or on the forums.




This would answer to you iHot. I already knew it would be a time wasting task, that's why I said I wouldn't know how they could solve that issue, without making a big fuss about who to punish.

I didn't hear anywhere. Anyways obviously no punishment has been given for abusing the system.

I'm sorry for not reading your whole post. It is a time consuming task and feel there may be a different way to deal with the report systems abuse.

Mystickk 06-12-2013 08:13 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 366641)
Thanks for bringing up the block system. The block system is the answer to all our problems. Era should encourage people to use the block system.



I didn't hear anywhere. Anyways obviously no punishment has been given for abusing the system.

I'm sorry for not reading your whole post. It is a time consuming task and feel there may be a different way to deal with the report systems abuse.

Guess I should've took a picture, unless I'm imagining it. Anyways, I agree with the block system, would be useful in my opinion.


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