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MrSimons 12-14-2012 10:26 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 256635)
he had something to do with it.
he 'lowered the flag'
that really helped those dead kindergarten students.

yeah guns are everywhere in that country common sense grows on trees everywhere else in the world, but legalizing horrible death machines seems to be awesome in america.

Lowering the flag is tradition in the country when something tragic happens, nothing new, and I can't see how that is detrimental anyway. Nothing can help those kids. As for guns being legal, it is probably a good thing that they are. Whether they are legal or not people will get a hold of them, and if they are illegal the people a hold of them will be murderers.

Pimpsy G. 12-14-2012 10:27 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 256635)
he had something to do with it.
he 'lowered the flag'
that really helped those dead kindergarten students.

yeah guns are everywhere in that country common sense grows on trees everywhere else in the world, but legalizing horrible death machines seems to be awesome in america.

Are you from quebec? Because this isn't the first time I've heard someone from quebec go on a pseudo-lunatic rant on how communist and idoitic america is.

Higbey 12-14-2012 10:35 PM

Right to bear arms was made back in a time period that a single man couldn't conceal a handgun and use it to kill over 20 people without being caught or stopped.

To our founding fathers the ideal of a pocket sized weapon capable of rapidly firing accurate shots without needing to reload often, that didnt jam, backfire, or require any complex or slow reloading...
It's the equivalent of what a ironman suit that doesnt fly would be to us.

Now please tell me, why you would need a high powered, rapid fire, concealable gun, for protecting your house in the united states?


As for rebelling against a corrupt government, the army has helicopters, bombers, jets, tanks, assault gear, And missiles, does that mean every community is entitled to having all of that available?

If you are in a situation, where you need to defend yourself against over 10 armed hostiles, all attacking in rapid succession, you have probably already broken a law to get into that mess.

We have destroyed almost all of the habitat and population of any American mammal that would pose a threat to us, so yea, you probably don't need that kinda firepower anyway, as if even a grizzly bear would taken over 5 shots anyway.

Police are regulated on what they can use, you let citizens use guns police can't even use, citizens don't even need a personality test and training and such to get a gun, let alone one you can use to kill so many people in a row without being stopped.

Zero02 12-14-2012 10:38 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 256649)
Right to bear arms was made back in a time period that a single man couldn't conceal a handgun and use it to kill over 20 people without being caught or stopped.

To our founding fathers the ideal of a pocket sized weapon capable of rapidly firing accurate shots without needing to reload often, that didnt jam, backfire, or require any complex or slow reloading...
It's the equivalent of what a ironman suit that doesnt fly would be to us.

Now please tell me, why you would need a high powered, rapid fire, concealable gun, for protecting your house in the united states?


As for rebelling against a corrupt government, the army has helicopters, bombers, jets, tanks, assault gear, And missiles, does that mean every community is entitled to having all of that available?

If you are in a situation, where you need to defend yourself against over 10 armed hostiles, all attacking in rapid succession, you have probably already broken a law to get into that mess.

We have destroyed almost all of the habitat and population of any American mammal that would pose a threat to us, so yea, you probably don't need that kinda firepower anyway, as if even a grizzly bear would taken over 5 shots anyway.

Police are regulated on what they can use, you let citizens use guns police can't even use, citizens don't even need a personality test and training and such to get a gun, let alone one you can use to kill so many people in a row without being stopped.

the 2nd amendment is controversial in so many ways

K!LLA KEV 12-14-2012 10:44 PM

I actually live 20 min from here. The principal who was killed (Dawn Hochsprung) was actually the vice principal of the middle school I went too (in danbury ct, not this school) when I was a kid, my grandmother worked in the school system and was Mrs. Hochsprung's personal secretary. I attended the school from 6th-8th grade at the time and was an "office helper" for her and she was an awesome lady, couldnt have met someone who loved her job and cared about the kids more than she did, she will be sadly missed along with the others victims killed & the 20 children she so proudly served. words cannot describe the horror that happened today. Very sad news, it sickens me to no end and hits me very close to home. Simply tragic

Godoco 12-14-2012 10:49 PM

You have to be a real asshole to make a president cry.

Higbey 12-14-2012 10:54 PM

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Posted by Godoco (Post 256662)
You have to be a real asshole to make a president cry.

he has watched video feeds of high priority missions and seen men die most likely, never cried then, he probably felt very sad, but i have to say, that was a bit dirty to do the acting and giving those crocodile tears for effect.

Rexx 12-14-2012 11:13 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 256673)
he has watched video feeds of high priority missions and seen men die most likely, never cried then, he probably felt very sad, but i have to say, that was a bit dirty to do the acting and giving those crocodile tears for effect.

Very ignorant post Higbey...His crying was "acting" seriously?
He has 2 young girls of his own, he feels strongly about public education, and is very empathetic towards teachers. Plus hearing about kindergarten kids getting murdered is very different than military missions where casualties are expected.

eric 12-14-2012 11:14 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 256642)
Lowering the flag is tradition in the country when something tragic happens, nothing new, and I can't see how that is detrimental anyway. Nothing can help those kids. As for guns being legal, it is probably a good thing that they are. Whether they are legal or not people will get a hold of them, and if they are illegal the people a hold of them will be murderers.

its harder to get a hold of guns when they are illegal idiot.


and no im not from quebec

Rexx 12-14-2012 11:15 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 256625)
I THINK he did it because he thought 2012 would happen

and by the way

You americans need to stop voting for obama, he makes guns legal and thats probably why your country is so violent and horrific. romney is 10 times better than that obama dude, he probably would have been reasonable and made guns illegal and made smoking in public places illegal, I've been to america it smells like pot, and theres crime every minute. SOLUTION: move to a better place like canada, vote for romney or hide in a box.

Romney is a REPUBLICAN and is AGAINST gun control.
You are literally the most stupid and ignorant idiot on this forum and you prove it every time you post. I almost feel dumb myself in even replying to you.

MrSimons 12-14-2012 11:16 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 256696)
its harder to get a hold of guns when they are illegal idiot.


and no im not from quebec

Yes it is, my point is that normal law abiding citizens won't get them and only the people who will use them for more malicious use will. Same thing with everything else, take the 1920's as an example, alcohol is made illegal>BOOM crime rates jump. And seeing how little of an idea you have of America's government this isn't the place for you to call people "idiot".

Godoco 12-14-2012 11:18 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 256625)
I'M AN IDIOT

ftfy

eric 12-14-2012 11:19 PM

the truth for example

u guys argue about stupid things, get a life people.

MrSimons 12-14-2012 11:21 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 256707)
the truth for example

u guys argue about stupid things, get a life people.

._. canadians....

Remorse 12-14-2012 11:24 PM

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Posted by Bubba De Orc (Post 256615)
This is what video games do to you, or in other words, media is corrupt, influencing your mind. The man didn't achieve anything my killing innocent people, all he did was affect his after life.

Seriously? Video games play a huge factor in these types of situations?


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