Eh, I'm guilty of worse things.

Tasted good tho.

What if I go hunting almost every weekend and cook my own meat and then out of hunting season I eat cow's food? You don't know how I live, so don't assume.

Btw, it is literally nature to eat meat. And by literally I mean literally. Ignorance is bliss tho, huh?

http://freefromharm.org/common-justi...s/its-natural/
http://freefromharm.org/eating-anima...ustifications/
http://freefromharm.org/common-justi...s-eat-animals/

You wouldnt b**** at a lion for eating a human would you?

I said it is nature to eat meat. Meaning in nature, you see animals eating other animals, therefore it is nature.

*Posts one-sided links I briefly skimmed for 3 seconds that look plausible to my argument*

I'd eat your meat

Wwyd if I was w/ u rn

Flawless logic - it happens in nature it must be okay for us to do.

LMFAOOOOO

You're saying it's not okay to eat meat? Watch how okay it is while I down a bacon mac later

when you have no other argument except for your ignorance

I mean that's your choice and it doesn't really bother me because I'm sure millions of others will do the same thing.

But to me it's morally wrong for animals to be put under extreme pain and then killed for my pleasure, so I chose not to eat it because it's not a necessity for me.

Believe what you want but don't start making some **** argument about it being okay just because other animals do it.

Lol what ignorance? The ignorance that animals die?

No **** sherlock, animals sacrifice themselves so we can gain nutrients from their rotting decomposing corpses. If you think we're ignorant to the fact that animals suffer then you're a ****ing ******. Food doesn't magically appear on our tables, people have to procure it through means that may not always agree with others.

But thats how the world always worked. We take what we want to survive.

"Oh you're just being ignorant about this stuff so you obviously are inferior."

No they're not, Michael Jackson. People just want to live comfortable lives and provide for themselves and their families. I'm not about to sacrifice my odds of gaining more strength from consuming an animal for their well being. I'm pretty sure most other carnivores can attest to this as well.

People need to eat, but humans have evolved to where we get to pick whatever we want to eat. BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED, YOU WEREN'T THE ONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO PICK FOR ME.

I think you're being ignorant to the fact that not everyone likes what you like and thats perfectly fine. But when you try to justify to yourself and others that what other people are doing is wrong when in reality, its just how it is, you come off as an annoyingly pretentious asshole.

None of us are ragging on the fact that you're vegan or whatever. I'm sure most of us couldn't give a big enough **** what you eat.

The fact that you can come onto a pedestal and call us ignorant for doing what a good chunk of all biological life does its ****ing stupid.

This deserves a ton of rep, I'll rep you when I get on PC

Cows are dumb and taste dumb

The only way for a human to not interfere with animals their freedom and lives is to not live at all, so gl
We were made to eat meat aswell and you should be happy we eat animals instead of humans nowadays tbh

Wasn't sure wether I should even post this reply tho cus there's so many people who get triggered cus people have different opinions on here

It's not about what you like or dislike. When you believe that billions of animals are being mistreated and killed for no reason other than for the pleasure of people then yes, you are going to speak out. And yes, you're obviously then going to try convince other people that it's wrong too.

You can go about eating what you want to eat, no one can force you to do anything - but people are obviously going to try convince you that what you're doing is wrong.

Are...

Are you serious?

Do you actually think people do this... For fun???

Yeah totally, it's not like the meat they produce isn't being used to feed thousands of people.

I always thought people just used steak the jerk themselves off.

You know the real travesty other than animals being slaughter en masse is the fact that a good portion of that meat goes to waste even though there are many people out there who are aren't able to eat anything at all.

But ooooo animals dying to feed people! Oh the HUMANITY.

Pleasure doesn't mean fun, you're just twisting what I said. How would you put it? Because it tastes good? It's still called pleasure. You can survive without meat, millions of people do it.

yeah but tofu is bad for my taste buds ;-;

I dont eat anything lactose but meat i have to eat, im already weak as is lol

Oh yeah totally.

I love building up my protein just for kicks.

It's not like there's tons of beneficial nutrients that can be gained from consuming meat.

But **** all that. I just eat meat cause it gets me hard. Not my muscles, it just makes my ***** very erect.

By that rational, you vegans and vegetarians delight in the consumption of harmless plants.

Ever consider how they feel?

I can't get vegan food in 150 seconds or less

The lorax told me you guys are monsters

What about the pesticides and GMOs being used to increase crop output?

Ever consider how those are basically poisoning the environment?

But you can quite easily get protein from other sources? I'm not saying it's ideal but I don't think it's really a difficult choice when you're weighing up the lives of animals to convenience.

Yes I've considered how plants feel. They don't.

Yeah it's called organic. Although most of the impact of pesticides are generally short-term, so aren't really that big of a deal.

Yeah how convenient. Plants don't feel pain therefor you can cultivate, harvest and eat them all you want.

By that logic if we kill animals without them "feeling" anything then it's ok?

Oh but no, it has an actual life other than just standing around and eating so it's too cruel.

Not everyone can afford to eat organic or buy this expensive ass vegan food.

Maybe instead of trying to butt in to other people's business you do what you want and let others do the same.

Try telling the people who barely get enough food to eat to cut meat from their diet.

See how much you're helping them there.

Plants aren't sentient though? There's a pretty big difference between life and sentience.

I'm not telling you what to do and no one is saying you have to post in this thread or even read it. I mean it's a vegan thread, do you really expect people not to share their opinions? You're trying to make the point that eating meat is okay, so yeah - I'm gonna try tell you it's not.

I'm arguing the point that eating meat for the sake of eating meat is unnecessary. If it's a matter of survival then yes, of course eat meat. For most of us here it's a choice, we can survive without it.

You mind telling me how eating meat is bad other than "Its bad for the animals."

People have been eating meat and raising animals for thousands of years.

And you're going to tell me that after all this time, it's bad?

You're forgetting the reason why people even eat food to begin with.

We need to sustain ourselves and people who eat meat sustain themselves just fine as well as vegans and vegetarians.

And yeah, animals inflict pain and suffering on those who they prey upon.

Last time I checked, we're animals too.

Carnivores and omnivores don't ****ing sing their prey to death.

It's just the way of life. Everything comes at a

I read this while eating a mushroom and steak pie.

You get the best of both worlds with a vege/meat pie :D

But the point is that it doesn't have to.

The whole argument is that "It's bad for the animals", it's called empathy. 90 billion~ animals die every year when the majority of us can live without meat. In a world where 2 billion people are obese, 90 billion seems a rather unnecessary amount. How many species can you name that breed animals then kill them at such rates?

5hift, it's clear you're stuck in your ways and it's clear you don't care. Which is fine, you're entitled to it, but don't get angry when people tell you the harm and truth and pretend that it doesn't go on. I don't care if you go vegan, it's clear to me you're stuck in your own head. But don't act like the industry is humane or in anyway acceptable.

You're ****ing delusional.

I literally said like 10 times already that we all acknowledge the fact that animals suffer to provide us food.

But that's nature. You can't change nature.

I acknowledge the fact that animals suffer and graciously accept their sacrifice.

Now stop making out meat eaters to be the bad guys because that basically accounts for the vast majority of the human population.

We're just doing what we have always done. Yeah you can switch to the vegan/vegetarian alternatives but those in no way surpass or precede those who consume meat.

I also made a note to mention how I disapprove of the wastefulness of the industry by not being able to provide to those who have nothing to eat.

I may be stuck in my head but at least my head ain't up my own ass about somehow being superior to others who eat meat.

slaughterhouses aren't "nature." the mass production of animal meat that it is today is not "nature." this isn't how it's "always been done" because the technology and means weren't there beforehand.

Is it though?

Think about it, when the population reaches this level, the demand to feed them increases.

As a result, land becomes more scarce and it becomes harder to domesticate animals freely.

This is just how the world works. Until we find more efficient farming methods that allow for more humane treatment of animals, this is the reality we have to face.

People still need to eat and going vegetarian or vegan isn't always enough to sustain them.

People with bone disease need sufficient amounts of calcium and they can't always rely on pill supplements or whatever vegan alternative.

What does the same technology have to do with anything? They're still slaughtered, even in a less painful way than 500 years ago. This is how it's always been, and no it's not similar to cannibalism.

Mmm love me some chicken fried steak with some buttermilk gravy oh baby

efficient?

industrialized animal farming nowadays is so horrid for our environment. not only is it inhumane, it's killing our planet.

these websites basically explain the impact between animal agriculture and plant agriculture. if you care to take a look.
http://www.veganaustralia.org.au/imp...em_on_land_use
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animal...e-environment/

don't forget them pile of mashed potatoes and some of gramdmama's sweet homemade c o r n b r e a d

Animals being slaughtered isn't some myth. You're not breaking any new ground saying that animals die so we can eat them how can you be so narrow-minded to this simple fact?

And when the human population increases you need more food so you start killing more animals to get it its pretty much academic at this point I'm surprised it took you so long to realize this.

I never said slaughterhouses were efficient, I just said they get the job done.

I honestly believe pesticides and GMOs are a much bigger threat to agricultural environmentalism than slaughterhouses.

has anyone actually clicked a single url in this thread?

Okay, okay. Let's just overpopulate the world with animals then. You realise that it would be 10x harder to farm and 10x easier to hit a ****ing deer on the road? Another thing, animals aren't properly buried like humans are, yeah?

I know I haven't :)

I read up on PETA which it was super sad but didnt relate to anything near me

Ohh baby

**** PETA writing up sob stories so they can cover up the fact that they basically murdered most of the animals under their care.

I cannot take anyone who believes the garbage the say seriously.

Looks like that dumb cow meat is making u dumb too

No dude that's just ignorant.

I have a question for vegans!!! Is it morally okay if I were to cook and eat 5hift?

If you cook me my meat would go to waste.

This isn't a joke, if I'm to die I want Gordon Ramsey to cook me into some culinary masterpiece and feed me to a vegan/vegetarian and have them tell him it was amazing.

PETA doesn't believe that humans should own pets, so instead of sending rescued dog/cats to an animal shelter, they just euthanize them. The woman who founded that company is ****ing nuts.

In any other case, I do believe that slaughterhouses are quite inhumane, but we got to the point where we can't let all the animals on Earth overpopulate. Everything requires a balance, no matter what it is.

But their articles cause fear-mongering and that's something to admire!!!