Someone posted hit counts in Alumni kik and you had the worst among them idk how you cant realize it.
Exactly, they basically lost cause "2" Vis were core, you would have probably won if sugar replaced you as she did so well in practice.

it's at the point where I don't even want someone to post his hit score for these finals because I think people are finally starting to realize he sucks
I'd rather not see him hit the bench because it's way more enjoyable watching him do horribly, lose, and then practically brag about losing on the forums

on that note: inco did spectacular last GST and I highly recommend that VIS continue to use him in their core
surely the last 5 GSTs were just flukes and I'm confident that he can lead his team to victory in the next GST

I never even wanted to do gst with vis from the beginning and everyone knows that.
I wasnt gonna make them lose LOL was just trying to have a equal wins on both sides and then we spar for the win. It was for a 3rd place which means nothing, nobody on silver was trying either.

?? what happened? what was the angry name?

It's funny watching Sarah try to justify leaving Amity to join Silver (If you didn't care about the GST then why were you asking staff to delete the hat from your account, once again clearly showing some strong emotions towards actually losing)

I mean if I was to be honest here you need to find a team big enough to fit your over sized ego.

"I always want to win except last GST"
Interesting GST you chose to "not care" about, it happens to be one you lost.

I don't push for leaderboards anymore since there isn't a great incentive, but I would like to know the opinions of others.

WTF i didnt ask for the hat to be deleted from my acc because i lost
1. i wasnt serious(admins obv will never do that)
2. i just dont like oversized hats its a waste of place for me

I publicly apologize to the gfx admin who made that hat tho, he did a great job my team loved it!

As i said i wasn't expecting to win that GST at all and i even encouraged alumni.
Silver didnt lose because of me, in the overall i did more hits than i took against RD and VIS sub team (forgot the name) i remember getting 10 hits on them and we still tied..

red shut up lol

how am I in tier 3

No one has even said on this thread that silver lost because of you , so u don't need to keep talking about how u did the best on your team over and over lol. Amity was a shambles imo anyway , inco and fro aren't at their best going ultra defensive and shaheen and Alexx aren't at their best going offensive lol they hardly pushed as a team because of opposing styles, so I don't see why people think the alumni people carried just because shaheen would start getting hits after everyone was dead. RD were prepared for this and that's why they won

yeah Kosiris is like tier 8 and thats being generous

agred lol red shut up

Im not trying to say that but red is trying to say that I did bad in the gst or something.
vv


im not saying alumni carried because shaheen was the last one alive but look at the hit count.

Shaheen and alexx had the best hit count so yes alumni carried. + 2 GSTs ago they cornered every team, they can push and be defensive at the same time unlike vis.

was summoned to weigh in and honestly didn't even want to post anything because this guy gets off from it, but it's whatever. y'all don't even continue posting on this, he's just trying to trigger you. dude's a complete nutcase, once commenting on the thallen rumor (whatever it is, don't care) "i wish it was me who did that". if you feel you were ranked poorly on this, you're probably right and dark probably has an issue with you from some GST-induced post traumatic stress disorder, losing to you way too many times (ex: my "setting GST records" and still getting 8 hits to 6 received, inco "you should be lower lol"). just ignore this "T3" (no comment) clown and let him stroke his ego in peace. thought finally winning GST (with 3 sage members by the way, you're welcome) would help him get mentally well after losing so many times in a row, but i guess it ain't happening and his victory lap is even more obnoxious than his complaining/excuses.

don't bother responding to me because you have no argument unless you're fabricating something like "i never lost to you in my life" when i've beaten you for at least 200 of my wins, and i'm not trying to participate in a my word vs. your word argument. in all seriousness, hope you get well soon. you were a decent dude until your 7th GST loss, good luck getting back to that.

could tell something was up when the only mistake he made was putting COlin instead of Colin because otherwise I wouldn't have noticed it since I haven't sparred in like 2 years and shouldn't even be on the list
(I didn't let him register accounts under other peoples names, so he could troll and pretend to be them)

the problem with these lists is there will always be a bias regardless of who makes them, they may not use that on purpose but a lot of times it unintentionally affects how they rank people, especially when it's a community troll who has a lot of bad blood with people

Never skyped you (you claim this is where I said that), don't know why you keep brining this up, a failed troll.

Only ever sparred you in our series when I went 10-4 (on pc at 3am or something lol.) When I submitted this thread I knew I would trigger this "clown"

I think you are good

If I recall correctly, in the finals the VIS members got pushed back easily and at times sat behind the other 3. That allowed us to come in from angles and hit the others. Could argue thats the reason they lost

Hardly contributed in the finals? Void I don't remember you contributing to neidomu at all so I wouldn't pull something like that. Also if you look at your team composition you have a good amount of offensive/defensive sparrers, look at Holy lineup: Aguzo, Brett, Thallen, Rainmaker, and myself. That lineup is aggressive, so I felt I should've tried to play more safe, sometimes getting hit but not rushing in with blink hits to retaliate (which is how I usually play). As Aguzo eloquently mentioned in his post, everyone has a specific job in a team and I did mine. During my GST with Alumni I started 22-24 against average teams and in the semifinals vs (SLX's best gst) and vs (Whitebeard) I went 48-30 (1.6 ratio). That was a very balanced team so I didn't have to do much other than play my usual style. My point is, I'm not claiming MVP, or boasting about doing amazing, but labeling my performance as being "carried" lacks support. Would Holy have won without Thallen? Probably not (but I never claimed Holy would have, so I don't know why this is even mentioned???) as Thallen is a crucial piece to any team's victory, and if I'm not mistaken I remember Thallen carrying teams far more than Holy GST in the past.

was thinking I should be in T1 or above..but alright

u know this a joke when jamies ranked above ryan...

Of course I can pull something like that, as I was more or less a mere spectator this GST, but a spectator still judges (like in pretty much every other "spectator sport") and is allowed to do so.
Ofc there's a job in a team, though I don't really see "Distractor" or "Bodybag" as legitimate roles.
Thallen was crucial in the finals, You admit Yourself, so why would it be unjust to say that he carried (Holy)?
Why would it matter if he carried others harder btw, that doesn't change the fact that he carried You
Blaming the other team's composition is the most bull**** excuse I've ever heard.

once again not trying to participate in a "my word vs. your word" argument when we both know i'm right unless you're actually worse off mentally than we all think you are. sending prayers for you man.

also for anyone taking this list seriously please remember that this is the same mental patient behind sour's incredibly inaccurate sparring rankings post earlier this year.

You don't see "distractor" as a legitimate role, yet arguably the best player on your team has played that role in Alumni GST's previously. Here's the link bottom of the page Void: http://www.clandestine.pw/team-compositions.html
It isn't unjust, but you didn't mention Thallen carrying Holy in terms of an MVP context, that would be correct. But you're attacking me in the sense that Thallen carried me hard and I get praised for that (your original post said this)? I have reason to believe that because you mentioned my role as being "illegitimate".

Why would it matter if he carried others harder? Because you're accusing me of getting carried and receiving praise, yet I specifically remember him carrying other teams much harder. You're here scrutinizing me specifically for whatever personal vendetta you have against me, when there are other people he has carried in finals. You know at this point in his Graal career, he's probably had to shoulder a lot of teams and people, yet you're trying to undermine me?

I made no excuse about my hits, if you read carefully I remember specifically saying I didn't play well in the finals but felt I made up for some of it by being there helping in the end. And of course team composition matters, there's plenty of people on this thread mentioning the lack of proper team composition with Shaheen, Abood, Inco, and Fro. It's not an excuse, it's just fact. Also, if you read the link I sent you above, look at the team composition aspect of GS. The team I entered with before this past GST was much more balanced, and as such I didn't have to do much, just played how I normally would and managed to get a decent hit ratio. This past GST, I was playing much more conservative than I normally would, and as such my share of hits were eaten up by my more aggressive teammates.

/closethread

Never skyped you.
You sparred in what 2013? I didn't spar until 2015, if I did before it was siderooms. To my knowledge I never sparred you until our series, giving me a 2.5:1 ratio on you.

Are you crazy? This is the best thread ever

Idk why the losing teams sub is calling out John tbh. Not sure why he cares that John ditched a guild 6 months ago, old news- move on

This cringe thread>rps thread

This is dark's opinion. Let him live in his world. And you do you.

RPS Thread > This thread


Less toxic players

Were they under the impression that the players who had won 3/4 of the last GSTs would change their style to accomodate the players who had won 0/4? That guild just had poor leadership. I had told the iDevices two months before the GST that it's a huge mistake to give the losers of that team any voice over the winners. Very generous of Abood to give them a chance though.

?? what happened? what was the angry name?

nobody likes you lol

There's a difference between playing as an effective bait and just running around spilling your spaghetti all over the gs arena.
You are contradicting Yourself a lot. You got carried by Thallen, like a lot of other people. Brett got carried harder than You, for example, but You got carried (in my opinion) nontheless.
I didn't disregard team composition, I deem it as an important factor. What I deem stupid though, is that You complained about an unbalanced team, which is something that's relatively easy to fix. That's why it's a bull**** excuse to use other team's compositions as an excuse, when You had the chance to form a balanced team as well.
"i made no excuse about my hits" [...] "i was playing much more conservative than I normally would, and such my share of hits were eaten up by my more aggressive teammates." I get what You're saying, but don't say You're not making excuses and then name excuses.
I may have attacked You indirectly with my first post, although it wasn't exclusively about You.
At this point I said everything I wanted to say. Peace

Void you make no sense here's why:

1.) "Effective bait" and "spilling your spaghetti all over gs arena"? Lol what? Are you trying to say that even though I did a lot of the things that were praised in the clandestine link I sent you, I still did bad! Of course if the situation were to apply to someone you don't have ill attitude towards, this conversation would never happen.

2.) "What I deem stupid though, is that You complained about an unbalanced team, which is something that's relatively easy to fix." Never have I complained about my team being unbalanced, I knew it was unbalanced, so I took the role of just purely conserving HP the entire GST (believe it or not that's an actual thing Void). And I specifically mentioned this, and my role plenty of times.

3.) "I get what You're saying, but don't say You're not making excuses and then name excuses." I didn't get a bunch of hits the entire GST, I know that, even Thallen knows that and mentioned it in a website somewhere. I also know that the reason for that was because of my play style with the team I was in, and the manner of the team. It's not an excuse, it's a cause and effect.

4.) "I may have attacked You indirectly with my first post." Yeah no **** you were trying to target me, it's blatantly obvious at this point. You're clearly salty over something that probably has nothing to do with you.

Yeah if I were you I wouldn't post because you honestly don't even know what you're trying to defend here. All I can see from this is that you clearly despise me (I don't need to know why, I don't care why), but I recommend keeping that to yourself instead of mass venting it on a forum talking about how much Holy GST and I were "carried."

just shut up lol

Been caught up in school and work. Finally getting the chance to make my response to these dweebs, =Trigger warning=Its cute they have to hold eachothers hands to roast or make comebacks lMFao.
Very ironic coming from you the guy who litterlly brought up my name you have to be the most deranged guy I have ever met.Apparently I'm "Obsessed" with you but you fail too keep my name out of your mouth wtf. This whole fued between us all started because I called you a sideroomer that selectively sparred that also boosted with daes alternate just too get the highest Rating, Really just too inflate your already huge ego.

Coming from the clown that actually watches grown men wrestling in their underwear??

The difference between you and me when I make a new account is because I'm banned and want too spar.
When you create a new account it's too avoid losing spars and lowering ratio of main account.
-Can't hold a decent spar record? Coming from the Guy who needed an ego boost by Selectively sparring and laming wins with dae on an alternate account, which is how you went from litterlly managing to get barely above 2-1 ratio pre-2013(which is terrible)
To be a good PC then was to be able to get a 4-1 ratio in Mixed you had a 9-2 ratio in sideroom

Not even a Gser Gg. Dae, If this tier list was actually serious both of you clowns would be lower.You(Dae) could possibly be the worst delayer skill-wize too place in GST, you litterlly provide 0 teamwork and you continue too prove your a serious liability too any team you Participate with.

Never understood why you guys even get on your high horses like you litterlly won 1 gst without Thallen out of how many times? 4? I never claimed to be a good GSer I personally think it's boring, but how hard is it to win a GST with 3/5 best mixed sparers on your team? Tbh any BA noob could replace you both and Alumni would still win.

Deity is arguably the 2ND luckiest Guild to win a mixed GST right behind northern signs let's be honest here..Besides I couldn't do GST it's on a Saturday night.Unlike you guys I'm not at home all day and have things to do

Sent from my 0PM92 using Tapatalk

really confused and shocked as to how one can actually convince himself something never happened and erase it from his memory completely, really is a sad case.

just close the thread at this point, really cringe rankings, arguments, overall reading experience tbh, sorry for contributing.

Obese burger flipper gets roasted
 

You literally mention me in every single sparring thread where you can see my name - not sure how you think I'd waste my time to talk about you until now, because it literally gets old and I might as well give you some of that light that you crave for.

Yes I have a huge ego, I don't need to spend all day kissing up to others and begging them to be noticed so I could feel better about myself. I know it might sound unreal to you but not everyone has to downgrade themselves as much as you. But the difference is that my ego is only huge with different games, such as CS because I can back it up

I know it probably hurt that a few years back you were trying to ride my ****, but after being rejected by me and dae you must have lose a few chromosomes or something

I don't watch wrestling lol

When you create a new account it isn't because you're banned, c'mon man don't lie to yourself like that. I know achieving 2:1 was a milestone for you and that you will never let it go. You creating a new account is just another way of you trying to beg for attention whilst people try to guess it's you or something.

2:1 ratio pre 2013 (was over 3:1 using iDevice but it's okay that makes sense anyway). Half of my stats came from someone transferring their account to me when indetification came out. Yes I selective sparred a few times when my score was about to show on the leaderboard. But my ratio only went up because I made a new account, actually tried and warmed up before sparring (the use of an alt) and abused the tie system - which later got carried over to GST because of what I did vs Mother.

If anyone is on a high horse it's you. I have no idea why you randomly started thinking you're good after kissing up and begging to join Deity - and then getting rejected and finding a new owner to chase.

I'd like to see you replace me in any GST and perform at all, would be very interesting - but obviously you can't do the GST because it is on a Saturday...

The funny thing about this is that you use those alts you constantly hide on, out of embarrassment, to enter GST! Cmon man, it's okay Kuz destroyed you during GS. Just watching you GS, I figured there must've been a reason as to why you'd hide - and there is, I guess you don't want to be seen getting destroyed in the first 10 seconds of a spar.


Anyway, you're clown man, have fun going back to flipping burgers. Btw, if I were you, I'd ask my parents to spend a little more on school because it seems you can't even distinguish "to" and "too" - it isn't very hard, and that's coming from someone who speaks English as his second language.

anyone that habitually avoids joining gsts like the black plague because they're scared of losing should just shut up in general lol

I think the biggest issue is losing gst is so blown out of proportion.
I haven't done gst for a long time mainly because Im not as interested in allocating time to the game. I log on at random times and take random breaks.
But when I did do gst it was with a bunch of friends and we just laughed and messed around.
Did well but never finals kinda material.

Those who do well in the sparring aspect of the game get absolutely torn apart for losing most of the time.

You are indubitably delusional.

Clearly butt hurt that you are ranked where you are. If I did make a serious, 'non-troll' list you would without a doubt be positioned lower. You lost round 1 in the most recent tournament (dying first each round with minimal hits within a time span of 15 seconds.) Washed up is an understatement.

Triggered this "clown" on 3/3 of my troll threads, he's obviously too dense and emotionally affiliated to Graal to terminate his progressive developmental disorder and/or an attachment disorder that he has regarding the opinions of people on a game and his own self inflated perception of himself, only real illness here

What's this thread turned to x.x people taking shots left and right, common guys we all know paddie will dominate everyone in a couple seasons so why all the hustle ?

Is this the roast ppl section

you can type as many paragraphs as you want, really doesn't change the fact that you are both avoiding the truth and fabricating lies along the way, it's really creepy. btw: 8 hits round 1, 4-5 round 2 but your friend tom the turkey (also pretty ******ed) was the reason we lost that one, rushing in and dying in a 2v1 EASY tie situation. you can keep telling yourself otherwise, seems to have worked for everything else i've been posting, which is actually insane.

also do not care at all if you want to continue insulting my sparring abilities because i am not even playing the game, have less than 300 spar wins in 2016, played for 10 days of the past 100, etc.

i'm out until you want to accept reality, and we aren't even close yet. continue denying and accusing me of being the delusional one lmao.

*Doesn't even play graal* *Checks forums everyday for spar thread* Obviously you are emotionally attached to this game.
8 hits, but dies in 15 seconds, which ultimately leaves everyone else to 4v5.

It's graal, I don't act even remotely serious half the time in public. Never spoke to you, don't know how you can conclude that I have a mental problem. Especially when you are the drop kick who attends community college (NYC community colleh or somethin.)

*only here because i was told to*
*not attending a community college*
concluding you have a mental problem because you straight up deny me skyping you and me beating you at least 200 times before, jerry as my witness for the skype, the entire battle arena as my witness for the sparring. like you actually have an issue if you can seriously tell yourself these things didn't happen and actually believe yourself. get yourself together dude.

I'm sure you were told lol. How convenient that ur friend is the only witness.
Only ever sparred you in our series (10-4.)

Daily reminder: self proclaimed sparring GOAT comit lost round 1

ight no sense talking to a brick wall, jesus christ you need help. best of luck to you in the future, hope you resolve your internal issues and eventually turn out to be a normal human being. have a good one everyone, catch ya, good luck with this mental patient running wild.

^
"Done replying" *5 posts ago* ~ Comit. Triggered, reinforces my point that you care too much about graal

No they weren't , they were trying something new , that didn't work. It's nothing to do with leadership..it's not anyone's fault that they lost imo I just don't think the type of sparrers that inco and fro are can work with the alumni people as well as they can with people they are accustomed too. Wouldn't matter who the leader was , contradicting styles. And I think if u ask abood I doubt he'd say he was "giving the losers a chance" whatever that's supposed to mean , they wanted to try something different that didn't work , simple as that. Don't see why blame has to be tossed around and using the whole "alumni won more recent gsts" thing to make out like it was solely fro and incos fault that Amity lost lol it's a team game and the team didn't work that well together

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say this, Dark your list is horrible and you are not 20% as good as I am+Thallen is a huge hypocrite can't believe Fro is banned (not a surprise)