Outsourcing jobs is a completely different issue. You think if rich people are taxed more that they will then stop outsourcing jobs? As I said before, arguments on this issue are usually over-simplified. Rich people don't just but Ferraris and expensive houses. Most rich people have their own business or brand. They want to continue growing said business or brand. I know if I was raking it in and could either get taxed in America at a high rate, or I could get taxed in some other country for a lot less, I would give it to the country that's taking less of my money. One could argue that raising taxes on the rich could actually cause the US gov. to receive less tax money from the rich because they will move their money.

Also, it came off to me that you were using that quote to defend your point and building off of it because you talked about that the gov. will have to money to spend on good programs, which the article contradicted. Sorry if I misread that.

the fact that you said that only confirms you're ignorant & not to be taken seriously.

It's from Albie. What did you expect? Just like the one shown above.

Yeah sorry, I'm just trying to backup the point that lowering the taxes on the rich isn't going to benefit everyone like Trump suggests. I'm saying that reduced taxes won't stop them outsourcing jobs, this means that if business want to invest in factories they will just invest in them in places such as China. This would just create jobs in China, there would be no increase in jobs in the US.

Yeah a lot of it isn't buying but investing, which also contributes very little. A lot of wealthy people invest their money in the stock market or real estate, there's no point just leaving it sitting in a bank. Again, the money is just sitting there not contributing to the economy.

It doesn't work as easily as moving your money though, if it were that easy everyone would just pay tax to the country that were offering the best rates haha. People find loopholes but these definitely need closing.

No thats not true at all lmao. The fact that we causes this is a not being debated in the scientific community.

Honestly I'm not in favor of lowering taxes for the rich. I just disagree to some level the reasoning that many people use for raising taxes, such as letting the gov. spend it on programs. The gov. will never have enough money. They could be given 30 trillion dollars this year and they would still find some way to use it all up within 10 years without improving the economy. I liked what Trump originally said about getting rid of the loopholes that all the wealthy use, and because of that, I was fine with lowering taxes on the rich. But it doesn't seem like Trump's actually getting rid of the loopholes. Granted, 90%+ of what Trump and Hillary Clinton both say they'll do won't end up getting done, so what they say on this issue probably doesn't even matter.

I can't see either of them closing the loopholes. Everyone says they will but they seem to never get round to it, I expect it's a little more complicated than it seems.

I completely agree. They would need to rewrite taxes completely.


That reference is crazy to even think of. There has to be so many loopholes for so many different situations that caused the tax code to be over 70,000 pages long.

hillary is transgender and she always faints she cant be president she'll die in an important meeting

On the bright side, the chance of Hillary having a freak siezure and dying is moderate.

that's terrible news if you watched how that freak Tim Kaine behaved the other night
Hillary is such a predator for minorities that I wouldn't doubt if she picked this dude just because he can speak Spanish

she picked him because they made a deal many years ago for him to be her VP pick

Before the election would be perfect timing, tho.

When is it you guys know who's going to be president? Only hear little bits here and there on UK tv

November 8th

Over there you'll probably find out in the early morning of the 9th I think.

I forget the exact date but I think it's December 8th, or at least right around there.

How can you be all over this thread and not know when you vote?

I know when we vote. I also know when the electoral college votes.

are you blind he asked when we find out who is president not when we vote

Either way he's still wrong, you don't find out in December.

They announce it in January and the president is always sworn into office on January 20th.

The electoral college doesn't even vote before the 8th of December lol

Unless it's really close, news shows the voting occurring way earlier, where we can see results. But I guess technically speaking you're right..

Well it has happened before, and the only reason I said Dec. 8th is because with an election like this, who knows what could happen. It's actually plausible this year to get a 169-169 tie. Also I'm one of the bitter people who complains about our votes not actually counting :P but yea, unless it's extremely close, we usually know who's going to be president based off our votes in November.

Fair point, never really been in a scenario this close.

I was just giving out the date as to when the electoral college voted. I guess I didn't technically answer the question correctly, but I wasn't trying to say that we publicly found out who. That's just when the election is actually locked. Just gotta answer the question in a way that feeds my bitterness toward our faulty election process!!

That **** makes my skin crawl lol

Yeah the way I was reading up on it they made it sound like it took all of 2 months to collect the votes, surprising they can actually show it night of but I think this one will be pretty close.

Do you guys have motions of no-confidence in America? From my understanding it's just a symbolic thing there, but I'm surprised it's not an actual thing you guys can act on.

Well how uk tv has shown it was trump was getting mega big on votes but recently clinton now has the edge by like 4% although tbh media likely votes are a sham brexit votes shown that over here.

Nope. I wish we did. I think most of America would love to vote to just start over the election with new candidates. Even then, I'm not sure people would vote for that because they would fear enough people would vote for the opposing candidate that they don't want elected. Just a ****ty election.

Polls are based on likely voters, which isn't always completely accurate. It depends who shows up to vote and the media has been talking about that a lot. Most young people don't vote. I think mostly what will determine this election is how much of the minority communities go and vote.

I found this article interesting.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mes-correctly/

I say Hillary Clinton won the debate.

But I would vote for Trump. Why? Because, despite Trump's brashness and peculiar attitude, he wants to make America great again. He's running on the help of almost no one at all except his running mate and Ben Carson and a few others. He also lists how he will make America great again.

Hillary Clinton merely follows up on the fact that she's running because Trump is a terrible candidate and she would be a better one. Also she's implicitly supporting illegal immigration. I dont think that's right in my opinion cuz there are legal immigrants here too.... Also, she gets TONS of money donations from countries

Correct me if im wrong at all x_x

Democrats want illegal immigrants to become citizens because Mexicans are mostly democratic, and 11 million new democrats in the country would allow them to dominate elections. Republicans don't want them legalized for the same reason. Pretty sad that the status of 11+ million people is based on political advantages.

Anyone seen this **** yet? I saw it on FB

http://pics.onsizzle.com/scene-trom-...at-4274614.png

Casually all over the news today that documents were discovered where the WH (specifically John Kerry) worked in cooperation to help cover up Hillary's email scandal, teaming alongside her staffers to coordinate avoiding interviews where he may be asked about it: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/06/st...mail-coverage/

But in other news, Trump called a fat chick fat and if that continues our country will surely spin into turmoil (it won't)

It is hysterical how the biggest thing they have on Trump is that, meanwhile Hillary zooms around on her broom deleting emails and calling hits

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

Have a fun search everyone.

"A secret cable from April 2009 that went out under Clinton's name instructed State Department officials to collect the "biometric data," including "fingerprints, facial images, DNA, and iris scans," of African leaders. Another secretcable directed American diplomats posted around the world, including the United Nations, to obtain passwords, personal encryption keys, credit card numbers, frequent flyer account numbers, and other data connected to diplomats." (from: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/6905)

The funny thing about this is the huge paper trail she managed to leave behind, it really wasn't that difficult to connect her to all of this, if you're going to elect someone shady into office at least make sure they can do it right.

It's official Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President of the United States.

GOP needs to find some rules they can use to kick Trump out and replace him with Pence or anyone competent.

Can't wait for Sunday. Will be kind of disappointing when it's all over. I wish there were elections every year. Just in case someone unqualified becomes president.

As soon as someone wins, the next election starts rolling.

Well impeachment is a thing.

rly??

Rather have a tiger eat my arm then have Hillary as president.

better start looking for a tiger because American voters don't care about the real issues

Thinking it's probably mire likely hillary becoming president now, yet neither are great and love to be corrupt and take no **** that being said - yup they fit the job.

True, but elections take a long time. The vp becomes president, after an impeachment, and they pretty much share the same values and plans.

Having the presidency limited to 1 year is what I meant. That puts pressure on the party to get things done, because all those promises are very fresh in the peoples' minds. They won't just wait 3 years, and on their last few months they start completing their promises, just so the other party can remove them later.

If you want nothing to ever get done at all, that's the way to do it.

that attempt at a smartass remark falls flat when you realize this is about voting for who won the debate, which doesn't mean you actually like that candidate.

Then they'll spend 9 of their 12 months running for re-election and not doing their job.

It was more for the entertainment of the elections. I'm sure things could get done, if both parties started agreeing with each other, instead of playing everyone with their "he has not done this/she has not done that."

Parties don't just magically start agreeing with each other, that's why there are parties in the first place. Fundamental ideological differences. That doesn't just go away.

In Canada, our Prime Minister serves at Her Majesty's Pleasure (that's the official saying) so there's no fixed term for how long our Prime Minister can remain in office, our current Prime Ministers dad served for nearly 16 years

We have no-confidence motions which means if a PM is doing more bad than good we can call for their removal, in 2008-2009 there was an attempt to call one but the current PM managed to prorogue Parliament and prevented them from voting on it so we still have some flaws

But yah there's no way Canada would end up in a situation like America, I can see our current PM lasting over 10 years

Our longest PM was in office for a total of 21 years

It does when they could lose a large quantity of potential voters by disagreeing. They tend to hide their true selves in order to acquire the millenial vote.

Trump will lose sadly, Could be worse we could have Canada's prime minister instead of Hillary.

With Hillary's health problems, I wish it gets severe. Cry me a river if you're triggered by my comment.