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G Fatal 07-02-2016 06:28 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 719977)
Honestly, the event shop needs to be closed

Agree/disagree,Agree because there is so much zcoins in circulation that even if they had big restocks the stuff would need to be all from like 2k - 20k zcoins for each item to get the zcoins more out of the mix even then I'm not sure it would as there is soo many that get traded about for hats etc some even being like 1k zc (that I find ridiculous)
Disagree because they could just relimit on how many zc they can get each day or something(Or maybe just redo-like give all zonians $$$ for there zc-maybe old zc shop become normal shop and then restart again, SO it's more monitored and doesn't get out hand-thats pretty much reason they messed up here they never knew how much players were getting and never restocked like seasonally.

Skt A. Sangue 07-02-2016 06:48 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 719987)
Agree/disagree,Agree because there is so much zcoins in circulation that even if they had big restocks the stuff would need to be all from like 2k - 20k zcoins for each item to get the zcoins more out of the mix even then I'm not sure it would as there is soo many that get traded about for hats etc some even being like 1k zc (that I find ridiculous)
Disagree because they could just relimit on how many zc they can get each day or something(Or maybe just redo-like give all zonians $$$ for there zc-maybe old zc shop become normal shop and then restart again, SO it's more monitored and doesn't get out hand-thats pretty much reason they messed up here they never knew how much players were getting and never restocked like seasonally.

I don't see why the admems don't just PM certain pr0s to give up like 40KZc in exchange for a hot weapon. People go nuts and bolts for ZC auctions, they like the rarity factor. Give em that.


Or maybe throw out a huge ZC auction and den (in advanced so people dont whine) tell them that auction items aren't tradable anymore.



because i know for a fact that 80% of graalians would rather have ZC and not gralats. unless its like 100 gralats per zc.




Yo this thread is so off topic... y u no make otter threads

GenoIndeed 07-02-2016 07:52 PM

Skt, 5k hrs for a purely cosmetic edition of a gun the whole team most likely has, that offers no buffs or procs, and is possibly situational depending on the chosen gun, is crap. A gun skin for 1k is a crappy prize. A gun skin is a crappy prize. If i were to lead my squad to 5k, id choose the railgun or rippers because that's what most of my squad uses, but the issue with that is they already look nice, 5k hours for a slightly better looking gun (or melee) is not worth it. Also, youre way more limited to what you can do, at least with a hat it can be a gasmask/beanie/hood/A BOX, you have so much freedom with that, the gun skin limits you too much. At least a hideout was worth it all. And about the whole "5k after 5k" statement, people didnt even do that for the hideout, its sure not gonna start on a gun/melee skin.

@g fatal, the zc system is unrepairable, it needs to be scrapped

Gitaz 07-02-2016 08:35 PM

Alright, can someone from Zone management (Chelt) answer what your current Developmental priorities you have?

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 04:32 AM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720007)
Skt, 5k hrs for a purely cosmetic edition of a gun the whole team most likely has, that offers no buffs or procs, and is possibly situational depending on the chosen gun, is crap. A gun skin for 1k is a crappy prize. A gun skin is a crappy prize. If i were to lead my squad to 5k, id choose the railgun or rippers because that's what most of my squad uses, but the issue with that is they already look nice, 5k hours for a slightly better looking gun (or melee) is not worth it. Also, youre way more limited to what you can do, at least with a hat it can be a gasmask/beanie/hood/A BOX, you have so much freedom with that, the gun skin limits you too much. At least a hideout was worth it all. And about the whole "5k after 5k" statement, people didnt even do that for the hideout, its sure not gonna start on a gun/melee skin.

@g fatal, the zc system is unrepairable, it needs to be scrapped


you can do a lot with the rail limitations. I've told Vox to make me a giant dinosaur head gun when I was on era. I even had him make a fancy ***** gun. I even showed it to le team. Nobody wanted it in. Their loss.

In fact I reckon you could do a lot more with a gun since theres more sides and the bullets would be fun to do... JS but Decemeber hit me up. I'll make you a nice walmart bag gun which shoots out random goodies. Lit.

PS- gun skins are beneficial. since even when the original is sabre reflect, skins aren't. Also, don't even tell me that a gun is more useless than a hat.


(Imo people didn't base for the hide out. Well acc did. But Darko based cus they wanted to get 5K before another certain squad started up and they thought that they'd never get hours afterwards)

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 12:03 PM

You're really just pulling a lot of crap outta nowhere to support what is a weak argument

And sweet, 5k hrs to kill the few remaining saber users a bit faster

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 12:26 PM

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Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 719986)
Idk, Pig will come one here and explain why there should be less prizes. Listen to him k. He's great at having the same beliefs I have but getting more support for it;)

Pig where you at?

Oooh. I've never quoted myself b4... fancy

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 12:40 PM

Whats really annoying me is yall act like 5k hours is easy to get. 1k is already frustrating enough to get, even with our crappy basing system which mainly benefits the defenders. A gun skin for all that is just bs, even more so since its an even lesser prize than the privious one. A gun skin has always been a crappy prize, a much better prize setup would be to keep the hideout at 5k and have the 10k prize be the gun, a melee, and a vehicle/mount

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Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 720273)
Pig where you at?

Oooh. I've never quoted myself b4... fancy

Pig doesnt even base, or use a weapon at all for any reason. And lesser prizes for what, so people can stop basing? How about pig goes and gets a little group of people and base for once and see how that goes

G Fatal 07-03-2016 12:52 PM

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Posted by Gitaz (Post 720010)
Alright, can someone from Zone management (Chelt) answer what your current Developmental priorities you have?

Keeping players in the hook of expecting things, classic has done that for years.

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 01:10 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720274)
Whats really annoying me is yall act like 5k hours is easy to get. 1k is already frustrating enough to get, even with our crappy basing system which mainly benefits the defenders. A gun skin for all that is just bs, even more so since its an even lesser prize than the privious one. A gun skin has always been a crappy prize, a much better prize setup would be to keep the hideout at 5k and have the 10k prize be the gun, a melee, and a vehicle/mount



Pig doesnt even base, or use a weapon at all for any reason. And lesser prizes for what, so people can stop basing? How about pig goes and gets a little group of people and base for once and see how that goes

Pig bases. He got Futur3.

Plus Pig and I both have gotten 5Ks. Idk if pig got a 10k doe. He's not cool like I am... cus I'm a penguin<3 huehuehue

I think that a mount for 10k would be rubbish. Cus no one uses bikes, and nobody uses de dragon... Maybe like a broom skin thats faster(ie like scooter) would be a lit 10k. actually helps too...

I'd see that being OP though. If the same group of people did another squad, they'd never lose Iricia lowl.

I don't feel like saying wot I'd usually say in public cus it'll be like an entire book long. Find me in game k. Imma rant. @GenoIndeed

John98 07-03-2016 01:25 PM

I disagree with mostly with everyone's point.

Fp* 07-03-2016 01:32 PM

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Posted by John98 (Post 720280)
I disagree with mostly with everyone's point.

maybe say why you disagree, what your view is? and what you think should be done? no offence but your comment doesn't help development of the rewards lol

Im just waiting to see what is done for 10k, as there is not much else that can be done (from all things i can think of)

@chelt can you keep us up to date with ideas/developments to this reward system, thanks :)

John98 07-03-2016 01:43 PM

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Posted by Fp* (Post 720283)
maybe say why you disagree, what your view is? and what you think should be done? no offence but your comment doesn't help development of the rewards lol

Im just waiting to see what is done for 10k, as there is not much else that can be done (from all things i can think of)

@chelt can you keep us up to date with ideas/developments to this reward system, thanks :)

My statement isn't something you should be worried about, you guys are thinking about yourself's, not the full iZone and basing economy itself.

I see so many I statements, it should be a group statement on why his/her idea is wrong based off what the every day player says, not only because you wish/want it like this.

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 02:06 PM

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Posted by John98 (Post 720286)
My statement isn't something you should be worried about, you guys are thinking about yourself's, not the full iZone and basing economy itself.

I see so many I statements, it should be a group statement on why his/her idea is wrong based off what the every day player says, not only because you wish/want it like this.

did a poll with the last 5 people I messaged on kik. none of them the forums so I feel like they should get their voice out there.

Low key, I spam on a large group chat that like every I know is added into about general forum stuff(cus they kinda wanna know whats happening... but they cba to join) and life and that being said, they get my bias towards things too sometimes so take that with a grain of sugar. Not salt. Cholesteral is a big problem in America guys...

"I agree. Melees are bad for this"- Skeleo

"Yea, it would cause an endless supply of melees and guns to you know who"- pears

"Yea, the gun is what we got for way more, bs"- Kayla

"I think it should just be a hat. guns are plebian status. swords are where the true pros at"- CronoX(gotta get in that multi-server views)

" "-Adrien NOOB CHECK UR KIK MESSAGES

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 02:17 PM

Yeah you don't know what youre talking about because none of what you said is even the point of this thread. The basing evonomy is a whole different story for another thread. And thinking about ourselves, we're the players, who else is there to think about?

People are understandably pissed that their hideout prize was taken away after they already got 5k or were close to it, and a gun skin isnt all that great, itd be nice to see worthwhile prizes for all the hours put into the game

@john

John98 07-03-2016 02:26 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720296)
Yeah you don't know what youre talking about because none of what you said is even the point of this thread. The basing evonomy is a whole different story for another thread. And thinking about ourselves, we're the players, who else is there to think about?

People are understandably pissed that their hideout prize was taken away after they already got 5k or were close to it, and a gun skin isnt all that great, itd be nice to see worthwhile prizes for all the hours put into the game

I do not appreciate the amount of sass you give.
I do agree about the fact Obsidian did reach 5k and got the hideout out 1 year later then lost it. As for now it was removed until We the staffs as a group come up with a better plan for this. If we did drop the ball then we will remove it and add it back. The hideout is still inside the game but only staff can warpto it for now. Don't make it seem like we deconstructed it.

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 02:36 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720296)
Yeah you don't know what youre talking about because none of what you said is even the point of this thread. The basing evonomy is a whole different story for another thread. And thinking about ourselves, we're the players, who else is there to think about?

People are understandably pissed that their hideout prize was taken away after they already got 5k or were close to it, and a gun skin isnt all that great, itd be nice to see worthwhile prizes for all the hours put into the game

@john

i like ur sass<3 it's hot.

you said a bad word though! Colin!!

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 02:40 PM

There was no reason to change the prizes or remove the obs hideout, but i would love to hear the illogical and possibly mindnumbingly stupid thought process behind this idea

John98 07-03-2016 02:43 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720304)
There was no reason to change the prizes or remove the obs hideout, but i would love to hear the illogical and possibly mindnumbingly stupid thought process behind this idea

I would love to he how logic can be bend into a Cup of water .-.

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 02:56 PM

Well logically I'd get a cup and something that dispenses water.

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 03:19 PM

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Posted by John98 (Post 720306)
I would love to he how logic can be bend into a Cup of water .-.

Well. Logic is a rapper. A HUMAN rapper. Human's are roughly 70% water.

In Logic's ALS Challenge, the bucket got stuck to his head.

A bucket is a form of cup.

At that moment, Logic had become a bucket of water.

Chelterrar 07-03-2016 05:30 PM

First of all: let's just agree to ignore Skt on this thread from now on

Second of all. The tower system on Zone is flawed. And no one can tell me it's not. And therefore changes need to be made

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 05:49 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 720353)
First of all: let's just agree to ignore Skt on this thread from now on

Second of all. The tower system on Zone is flawed. And no one can tell me it's not. And therefore changes need to be made

Agreed.

Yeah its incredibly flawed, but to fix it you need to fully undestand the flaws or things can end up worse, like skybase for example

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 05:55 PM

Oi. Demz be fighting werds. Are you saying that what I said about water was worse than what Geno said? o.0

At least mine took some time to do some research about the rapper Logic. Who grew up like 2 blocks away from where I used to live. Lit.




#WotsGunnaHappenToCTF?
#IForgotThatWasAThing



PS- this thread is about the hideout rewards. y u no make #BasingSystemThread m9s?

GenoIndeed 07-03-2016 05:57 PM

Ill make a thread about it soon

Skt A. Sangue 07-03-2016 06:44 PM

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720358)
Agreed.

Yeah its incredibly flawed, but to fix it you need to fully undestand the flaws or things can end up worse, like skybase for example

He said not to listen to me on THIS thread. I volunteer as the skybase overlord to write my final belief on them K. Cus lets be honest. If there was a skybase log time, i'd have the highest time... well idk. Trey just like AFKs there... he's neb. So imma do dat k. mk. bye. Because I actually havem't done one in a while. Mostly cus I've been CBA with life. mk.

John98 07-03-2016 10:40 PM

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Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 720310)
Well. Logic is a rapper. A HUMAN rapper. Human's are roughly 70% water.

In Logic's ALS Challenge, the bucket got stuck to his head.

A bucket is a form of cup.

At that moment, Logic had become a bucket of water.

Lmao

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Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 720358)
Agreed.

Yeah its incredibly flawed, but to fix it you need to fully undestand the flaws or things can end up worse, like skybase for example

"Nothing gold can stay," If you understand this quote then don't question Sky base, also your flaws aren't played out yet.

GenoIndeed 07-04-2016 12:48 AM

I don't think you even understood what you just put. Say something thought out for once

Akato 07-08-2016 10:40 AM

I still think that the squad hideout could be kept if placed as a button on the squad page as it's not directly interfering with the new map or tileset and would still allow for a place where the members can go to chill or have fun at.

I am in the process of making a new thread with FP regarding how the squad system could be overhauled. Should be ready soon.

PigParty 07-08-2016 11:48 AM

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Posted by Akato (Post 721910)
I still think that the squad hideout could be kept if placed as a button on the squad page as it's not directly interfering with the new map or tileset and would still allow for a place where the members can go to chill or have fun at.

I am in the process of making a new thread with FP regarding how the squad system could be overhauled. Should be ready soon.

GL with the 32nd squad overhaul thread. You see how well the first 31 worked out.

JesterTheCat 07-09-2016 06:09 AM

Stop. Complaining. Make way for the new Zone because the choices being made are to better Zone. They can and will make any necessary change to reach our goal. The old system failed, it's time for a new one.

-Thank you.

PigParty 07-09-2016 06:19 AM

I'll complain until I see real change. Thanks for the effort, though. Been dealing with Zone's **** too long to trust anything until it actually is released. Scripting still is and always has been a major issue on Zone, and scripting is what Zone really needs atm. Still not too confident that the quality of the server will change too much.

Unknown? 07-09-2016 07:17 AM

Well, the staff are making some bad choices then :)

God Poseidon* 03-25-2017 03:07 AM

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Posted by Akato (Post 718563)
I just received a server message stating that the squad hideout reward is no longer available, I wanted to know the reason for this as we in Accuracy have been basing non-stop for this reward and had everything planned out, we are just coming up to 4k and would get to 5k in a couple of weeks.

lmao *****. y'all ****s won't get 5K for another year.

Weeno 03-25-2017 03:08 AM

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Posted by God Poseidon* (Post 773871)
lmao *****. y'all ****s won't get 5K for another year.

badmin.

Melon* 03-25-2017 04:06 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 773872)
badmin.

He's gone. For now


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