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Thallen 06-20-2016 08:23 AM

The coolest gay people are the ones who don't allow their entire life to revolve around their sexuality in meme-esque "I'm a vegan" fashion. I felt like in the late '90s/early 2000s, there was this certain pretentiousness from the gay community where everyone felt like they had to announce they were gay, and be fabulous, and seek attention at every turn due to their pride in something they have no hand in.

Being transgender is just now becoming "cool" and otherwise accepted, probably due to the whole Caitlyn Jenner thing. I feel the same pretentiousness oozing from the transgender community. I'll be happy in a few years when everyone is tired of hearing about it and transgenders can just be transgenders and it won't be a big deal or worth making a big deal over.

Ryan 06-20-2016 08:36 AM

stfu SJW's. Your time is on the decline

Yog 06-20-2016 08:46 AM

http://i.imgur.com/zYBuhav.gif

Crono 06-20-2016 09:28 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 716051)
The coolest gay people are the ones who don't allow their entire life to revolve around their sexuality in meme-esque "I'm a vegan" fashion. I felt like in the late '90s/early 2000s, there was this certain pretentiousness from the gay community where everyone felt like they had to announce they were gay, and be fabulous, and seek attention at every turn due to their pride in something they have no hand in.

yep. reminds me of 420 BLAZ IT YOLO xDDDDD culture. luckily all the folks i know aren't like that, they smoke but don't dedicate their whole lives to revolve around it.

Jarace 06-20-2016 09:42 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 715622)
I would be interested in actually seeing if this is something that people have brought up via feedback, I don't think anyone actually cares

Also consider that the playerbase is leaning towards the young side for the most part, I think throwing a huge list of gender options at them is just going to confuse them and put them in that phase where they change what they identify as every week because they don't really know anything about it

Outside of being a forum joke the idea is pointless (and it's a pointless forum joke too)

I will personally confirm that this has been feedbacked on many occasions.

deadowl 06-20-2016 02:51 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 715985)
i support 'private, unknown, other' gender options.



^only thing i am worried about right now.
transgender bathroom, *********s or rapist can easily dress up and identify themselves as a female and start harming people in the girl bathroom, and if men are serious about hurting girls, i don't think girls can really protect themselves.

Dude, go out in public dressed as a girl for a day and see if you even feel remotely safe (you won't).

Yog 06-20-2016 03:05 PM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 716107)
Dude, go out in public dressed as a girl for a day and see if you even feel remotely safe (you won't).

I did that once. No one seemed to notice :(. As for vulnerability my skirt was a little uncomfortable?

A friend had pictures somewhere but I lost contact with him

eevee2 06-20-2016 05:52 PM

I don't think graal should bother adding something like this.
If you feel like you're bigender that's up to you! People don't personally care about that. What they want to know is are you a male or a female. Graal shouldn't put stuff like that, childs are curious and who knows what they'll end up finding: XXXBigenderXXX, XXXAGENDER.(Please don't report this)
If you honestly and seriously want to show that you're a bigender or things like that, just put it in your status. You should consider that some information are better kept to yourself though.

Zetectic 06-20-2016 05:54 PM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 716107)
Dude, go out in public dressed as a girl for a day and see if you even feel remotely safe (you won't).

nobody gives a ****. i see crossdresser in NYC everyday. they might laugh at u, but what? deal with it. or move the **** out to suburb or ***.

Hugop 06-20-2016 05:56 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 716154)
I don't think graal should bother adding something like this.
If you feel like you're bigender that's up to you! People don't personally care about that. What they want to know is are you a male or a female. Graal shouldn't put stuff like that, childs are curious and who knows what they'll end up finding: XXXBigenderXXX, XXXAGENDER.(Please don't report this)
If you honestly and seriously want to show that you're a bigender or things like that, just put it in your status. You should consider that some information are better kept to yourself though.

No need to worry, childs are already ruined and addicted to games. You need to think about the positive results: They go outside, hopefully.

Yog 06-20-2016 05:57 PM

Let me also add that I only did it because my friend asked to put makeup on me, and in return she'd buy me Starbucks.

Free is free.

eevee2 06-20-2016 06:00 PM

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Posted by Hugop (Post 716158)
No need to worry, childs are already ruined and addicted to games. You need to think about the positive results: They go outside, hopefully.

I don't think they ever saw what the outside world looks like.

deadowl 06-20-2016 09:53 PM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 716154)
I don't think graal should bother adding something like this.
If you feel like you're bigender that's up to you! People don't personally care about that. What they want to know is are you a male or a female. Graal shouldn't put stuff like that, childs are curious and who knows what they'll end up finding: XXXBigenderXXX, XXXAGENDER.(Please don't report this)
If you honestly and seriously want to show that you're a bigender or things like that, just put it in your status. You should consider that some information are better kept to yourself though.

What's the big deal about anyone seeing bigender, agender, or whatever ridiculous things some people will come up with in someone else's profile?

Yog 06-20-2016 09:58 PM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 716217)
What's the big deal about anyone seeing bigender, agender, or whatever ridiculous things some people will come up with in someone else's profile?

Because like I said before some of them can be complete assholes about it. Shaming those who identify with their born gender or use the wrong pronouns for them, and giving false information to doctors.

I'm totally fine if you want to pretend to be whatever gender you want, but don't be an asshole about it.

deadowl 06-20-2016 11:28 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 716221)
Because like I said before some of them can be complete assholes about it. Shaming those who identify with their born gender or use the wrong pronouns for them, and giving false information to doctors.

I'm totally fine if you want to pretend to be whatever gender you want, but don't be an asshole about it.

So you're saying that adding a text field on a form causes people to become assholes? I believe that if someone acts like an asshole after a text field is added to a form, they were already an asshole to begin with. I don't see why anyone would shame someone else for identifying with their assigned gender, while usually people are shamed for not identifying with their assigned gender. By assigned, I don't just mean people who grow up with one set of genitals and suddenly want the other kind, sometimes when the genitals of a person don't fit neatly into male or female, gender is assigned by surgically modifying genitals at birth, regardless of whether it's medically necessary, because the form the doctor has to fill out doesn't give them any other option.

If someone expects people to magically start using pronouns that aren't associated with gender presentation, they're going to have a hard time. They'll never be happy if that's really what their expectations are, because even the people who try to respect a preference of pronouns will fail quite often.

Meanwhile, giving false information to doctors? Where's that coming from?

Albie 06-20-2016 11:43 PM

hi guys friendly reminder you are what you are born as and you're either a guy or a girl

Mangsi 06-20-2016 11:47 PM

Hi guys friendly reminder that gender is in your mind and sex is your body. You can be whatever you identify as.
A PSA from everyone who's not totally ignorant.
Have a glorious day/night y'all.

Zetectic 06-21-2016 12:01 AM

still not convinced with a single post. theres no need for graal to add 20 genders. i can understand why some people wanna be unknown/other/private gender though and that's the only option i can support.

and imagine the graal administrators perspective: in game reports filled with offended LGBT kids.

deadowl 06-21-2016 12:01 AM

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Posted by Albie (Post 716249)
hi guys friendly reminder you are what you are born as and you're either a guy or a girl

http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3072518&page=1

Yog 06-21-2016 12:02 AM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 716243)
So you're saying that adding a text field on a form causes people to become assholes? I believe that if someone acts like an asshole after a text field is added to a form, they were already an asshole to begin with. I don't see why anyone would shame someone else for identifying with their assigned gender, while usually people are shamed for not identifying with their assigned gender. By assigned, I don't just mean people who grow up with one set of genitals and suddenly want the other kind, sometimes when the genitals of a person don't fit neatly into male or female, gender is assigned by surgically modifying genitals at birth, regardless of whether it's medically necessary, because the form the doctor has to fill out doesn't give them any other option.

I'm explaining where the resentment towards made up gender is coming from. I never said I was against a blank slate, but I do think it's stupid. I'm okay with a private option though.

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Posted by deadowl (Post 716243)
Meanwhile, giving false information to doctors? Where's that coming from?

When filling out forms they'll usually refuse to fill in gender.

deadowl 06-21-2016 12:19 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 716262)
I'm explaining where the resentment towards made up gender is coming from. I never said I was against a blank slate, but I do think it's stupid. I'm okay with a private option though.

Although some people would undoubtedly use it as a joke, I'd imagine it would be helpful to find others they can identify with, and would tell you more about a person in general. I guess a lot of people want to turn the idea into some twisted version of a moral panic because someone might write in Tomboy and that makes them uncomfortable with themselves.

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When filling out forms they'll usually refuse to fill in gender.
The doctor's usually the one prescribing estrogen, testosterone, testosterone blockers, or what have you, so I'm sure they'd also be aware of any concerns regarding specific risk factors related to the sexual anatomy of their patient in general.

Fulgore 06-21-2016 12:27 AM

who
cares

Yog 06-21-2016 12:28 AM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 716267)
The doctor's usually the one prescribing estrogen, testosterone, testosterone blockers, or what have you, so I'm sure they'd also be aware of any concerns regarding specific risk factors related to the sexual anatomy of their patient in general.

It's not about sex changes. It's about those who literally make up their own gender and refuse to choose male or female when filling out forms for records.

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 716272)
who
cares

Is this a genuine question?

PumaD 06-21-2016 12:33 AM

You're either male or not worth the effort.

Red 06-21-2016 01:10 AM

Where is GOAT ;(

Aguzo 06-21-2016 01:23 AM

By the time you guys are done arguing, someone will have legally signed the proper documentation and gone through intense surgery to be identified as a house cat. Someone will legally own another human being as a pet, and your grand kids will be arguing about which trans-species pedigree bag is the healthiest.

optimuswhat 06-21-2016 01:53 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 716289)
By the time you guys are done arguing, someone will have legally signed the proper documentation and gone through intense surgery to be identified as a house cat. Someone will legally own another human being as a pet, and your grand kids will be arguing about which trans-species pedigree bag is the healthiest.

Can confirm; am nylon bag now.

Skyzer 06-21-2016 03:30 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 716287)
Where is GOAT ;(

Banned.

deadowl 06-21-2016 03:37 AM

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Posted by optimuswhat (Post 716297)
Can confirm; am nylon bag now.

What polymer?

CM 06-21-2016 04:46 AM

hi guys friendly reminder just because you're born with a **** doesn't mean you have to be one too

Red 06-21-2016 04:47 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 716343)
hi guys friendly reminder just because you're born with a **** doesn't mean you have to be one too

Same goes for yourself (in most threads.)

CM 06-21-2016 05:01 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 716344)
Same goes for yourself (in most threads.)

well i'm not going to try and make orange juice with apples if you know what i mean

i just made up that metaphor but im pretty sure it means something

also i made that post in response to the one albie made where he was, ya know, being a ****

Red 06-21-2016 05:03 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 716348)
well i'm not going to try and make orange juice with apples if you know what i mean

i just made up that metaphor but im pretty sure it means something

also i made that post in response to the one albie made where he was, ya know, being a ****

Yes I respond to posts about albie often because he's my son lol...I live with him...

CM 06-21-2016 05:05 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 716350)
Yes I respond to posts about albie often because he's my son lol...I live with him...

i don't know what this is supposed to mean in response to my post but ok

Red 06-21-2016 05:09 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 716352)
i don't know what this is supposed to mean in response to my post but ok

I'm his parent, I showed him graal, I use this forum and I can see what he posts and who directs posts towards him. It's not that hard to grasp.

I'm his Father lol

Shurikan 06-21-2016 05:46 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 716343)
hi guys friendly reminder just because you're born with a **** doesn't mean you have to be one too

Did you just assume my sex?

CM 06-21-2016 06:43 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 716353)
I'm his parent, I showed him graal, I use this forum and I can see what he posts and who directs posts towards him. It's not that hard to grasp.

I'm his Father lol

um ok congrats but what does that have to do in relation to my post (which was what i originally asked)

Albie 06-21-2016 07:36 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 716392)
um ok congrats but what does that have to do in relation to my post (which was what i originally asked)

shut the **** up ****ing social rights activist.

"guys im cm and i fight for the greater of society because i believe you can decide if ur a boy or a girl!!1!!1!!"

No thanks. Your DNA determines that.
i think hes salty because i have a father xdd

Red 06-21-2016 08:28 AM

calmdown son dont use that language.

Ryan 06-21-2016 08:39 AM

All you people who are taking this thread seriously are the real fools here.



I was just ****ing about, geez guys calm down

Aaron 06-21-2016 09:03 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 716414)
All you people who are taking this thread seriously are the real fools here.



I was just ****ing about, geez guys calm down

"you people"?!

Admiral 06-21-2016 09:04 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 716414)
All you people who are taking this thread seriously are the real fools here.



I was just ****ing about, geez guys calm down

**** you don't oppress me normie!!! reeeeeeeeee

genders should be abolished, either that or there will be hundreds in the future

Aaron 06-21-2016 09:08 AM

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Posted by Shurikan (Post 716369)
Did you just assume my sex?

http://i.imgur.com/u4BKDUD.jpg

mallard 06-21-2016 09:41 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 716414)
All you people who are taking this thread seriously are the real fools here.



I was just ****ing about, geez guys calm down

I think you knew that this would happen when you submitted the thread. Be honest. ;)

Ryan 06-21-2016 09:56 AM

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Posted by mallard (Post 716428)
I think you knew that this would happen when you submitted the thread. Be honest. ;)

yeah true

but not this bad

Albie 06-21-2016 01:42 PM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 716431)
yeah true

but not this bad

i mean, i know i'm ****ing about to piss off certain idiots who think they can choose their gender because you totally can't and if you think you can choose you're just a fool looking for attention.

PumaD 06-21-2016 01:52 PM

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Posted by Albie (Post 716453)
i mean, i know i'm ****ing about to piss off certain idiots who think they can choose their gender because you totally can't and if you think you can choose you're just a fool looking for attention.

Let people identify their gender as whatever they want to, just identify them as idiots. Sure they'll cry about respect and what not, but do you really want the respect of a furry aswell?


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