I've been told to leave a restroom before, I didn't pass very well. So someone said, "Go use the female restroom.", they were just guessing I was trans, but it's things like that, that make us need to fight the bathroom issue.

I never said a word to anyone that day in the restroom, but someone just guessed I was trans and asked me to leave the mens restroom.

We can be minding our own business and still be harassed in the restroom. So yes, it is just an in and out thing for us, until others start bugging us.

You realize African Americans pretty much went through the exact same thing back when segregation was still around?

The idea is to stop acting like a victim and start to take up responsibility.

Segregation wasn't ended by a bunch of tilted millennials running around calling white people crackers and blaming the system for everything.

It was brave people like MLK who stood up, who didn't complain but told the truth for what it really was.

Right now, you have the choice to stand up for what you believe or get tilted and complain about everything.

If you're going to fight for your rights then do it in a subtle and respectful way that doesn't make the world think you and others like you are total asshats.

Unfortunately, there will always be people like that who will get noticed more than you who wishes to do things the right way.

I don't see that as a trans issue, that's something more general. If a cis female with masculine features enters the girls' restroom, she may also experience that type of harassment. I mean, people may actually think you're a cis female trying to enter the men's room (for whatever reason). Maybe it's impolite of them, but some people just aren't polite.

The more interesting conversation is getting to the bottom of why we have separate bathrooms. Is it for protection? Can we assume that if males are able to use the same bathrooms as females, there will be a significantly higher risk of rape, molestation, and things like that? Well, probably. That being said, I don't think it's wrong of someone to be concerned when they see someone entering (as they perceive) the "wrong" bathroom.

Exactly ^

You think people shoulder cater to your needs and respect what you want, so maybe transgenders who are MTF or FTM but don't actually look like it should respect how uncomfortable it may be for people when someone strolls in a females washroom but looks 100% like a male or the other way around. It's not because they hate you or think you shouldn't be trans it's just human instinct that it makes them uncomfortable.

If someone doesn't like seeing you in the washroom, they still won't like it either when it becomes legal so you may as well just not care and do whatever because they will dislike it either way.

Actually, black rights were obtained through eons of suffering, war, rebellion, fighting, and arguing. MLK did not end segregation. MLK became a face for peaceful protest in the mass media, and over glorified as somehow collectively inspiring everyone to stand up for what they already believed in.

The mass media is a joke, and a lie. It creates celebrities as dangling worms for a myriad of governmental reasons. The government doesn't keep people in check by accident. They knew that the entire capitalist system was a joke, and evil lie, and that the whole system needs uprooted & restarted. They know that money is a witchcraft lie, out of control & people obsessed with it.

So, instead, they created an idol of "the appropriate way to handle segregation" to counteract justice. That is, they have post-poned justice by pretending to support it by creating a dangling-worm of glory for the African Americans to be distracted with. Then, rather than rioting and taking what belongs to them and their ancestors—they'd just sit around, lose their culture, wear suits, and talk like everyone else.

That is, counteract the black riots & African culture by using the power of the media to glorify a Caucasianized black man as "somehow being the collective spark that ignited the force". The media doesn't talk about what it talks about by accident; it isn't sparked through divine inspiration, either. It is meticulously chosen, and the "methods for retrieving justice" are methodically outlined & seduced to keep the current powers in power with very little chip off their shoulder, although they probably should be beheaded altogether & the system uprooted.

I understand it may make them uncomfortable, but at the same time: I've done all I can to pass. I'm to young to start on hormones, so at this point I'm transitioned as far as I can be. I try to use the family restroom whenever I can, to reduce discomfort for myself and others. But if there is no family restroom, I'll use the male restroom. Because I look to masculine to be in the female restroom, and get odd looks when I go in there. But at the same time I'm to feminine still to be in the male restroom.

I think the best option for the restroom issue is to make all restrooms gender neutral. It may come with some protection risks, but any *********, rapist, or any other bad person can walk into any restroom right now and prey on little girls/boys. There's no bouncer standing at the door of every restroom asking what your sex is, so I mean, what's really going to change if all restrooms are gender neutral?

The amount of mass-scale deconstruction and reconstruction necessary to make this happen would be insane. Practically every public establishment in the country would need to undergo (what many would consider to be) an unnecessary change, coming out of their own pockets. Women and men do things in their respective bathrooms that the opposite gender probably doesn't care to see.

I don't think many females want to experience walking into a gender-neutral restroom at a bar, where some douchebag at a urinal turns around and waves his **** at her. I doubt many men want to experience bloody pads festering around. Separation for protection and privacy needs is a good thing.

Everyone who is "weird" in one way or another has to have thicker skin than the average person. For example, ugly people experience a lot of harassment. We have collectively come to the conclusion that it's pretty damn rude to point and laugh at someone if we think they're ugly, thus it's socially unacceptable. I think it's fair to say that transgender people are becoming a lot more accepted in the First World. It's not socially acceptable to harass transgender people. That doesn't mean that no one is allowed to do it or that no one will do it. There are people who will always harass those who are transgender, ugly, handicapped, African American in a predominantly Caucasian community, etc.

I wholly agree with what you said, but I really don't think people understand the amount of discrimination that disabled people or LGT people tend to face. I say LGT, because bisexuals, in fact, are actually commonly overprivileged rather than underprivileged. It is a misnomer to assume that asking for acceptance for their sexuality, that their personality is collectively discriminated; by far & large, the media is riddled with bisexuals, and they do not struggle with their personality in public, but rather are glamorized.

As for homosexuals & transgenders, I can tell you that it is severely bad. They are such a small minority, not like being black or something else—so protection for them does not come easy. It is very easy to say, "Wow. That person discriminated you for being black! That was wrong!" It's very different when it comes to men who may have a lisp or some other gay characteristic that comes out if they don't spend extra attention to control it, or a transgender.

I still face discrimination & violence on a daily; it never ends. Just a few days ago I was harassed at the library by some men trying to make a joke out of me and bait me to see if I was going to check them out to try and sleep with them, and openly said nasty things to me—looking me straight in the eye when they did it very intimidating at an open volume without shake, fear, remorse, or anyone chiming in to the hateful comments.

Society is very dangerous for us, and every moment is a stressful decision on how much energy we want to invest in covering up our natural voices, demeanors, opinions, hopes, dreams, & needs.

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Problem is it creates opportunity. Yes, they can walk into any bathroom right now, but a lot of crime arises from opportunity. Some guy sees a good looking girl walk in, they might be motivated more than they would have been. I was thinking transgender people should go to the one they identify as, or new laws should be made requiring a neutral gender bathroom (family bathrooms could be easily converted) and you can choose your gender identity's bathroom, or the open one.

In response to the Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter controversy (since someome mentioned it here) I had someone come to my school to speak on that issue, and in the flier it said this, which I never thought of befofe, which I found very interesting, and true.

http://i.imgur.com/E3Bkicd.jpeg

In a school newspaper with written in articles, I kid you all not, there was an article telling all white people that their criticisms were irrelevant, and a teaser at the next week's edition where an article about why "white people should not be allowed to procreate" yet people still sympathize with the writer for whatever reason. I guarantee if I submitted the exact same writing and switched the word "white" with any other color, I'd be expelled. It's instances like that where I have come to despise the BLM movement, for attempting to shame me just because I was born white, and then expect me to not only submit to it, but then to tell me that any criticism of the article I may have is irrelevant because I'm white.

But remember kids, racism can't happen both ways.

I can't stand some of the black community movements usually because they play the race card where race was never a factor. When they started using cases like Ferguson as an example for racial discrimination, that's when you realize you can't trust them. It's sad because yes, there still is a racial issue in some areas and in some situations, but they undermined their own movement so much that hardly anyone can take it seriously anymore.

I also think it's humorous that people say "reverse racism" as if racism only applies to black people by white people. i never got that memo. The Good Wife had an episode where they mentioned reverse racism and made fun of it. It was a good episode.

How come no one is mentioning the "child slavery" that happens in the US with illegal immigrants? Why are we turning a blind eye on that?

Why can't you be normal?

Because being normal is boring

I would be if I could be m8

Not enough Facebook likes for it yet.

YOOO GIT screw the illegals bro, they don't matter as Trump is going to get rid of them suckers soon. But what about all the legal white child slaves in the US? Unixmad has been using child slavery since 1999. Antago, Dusty, Coco, and the many countless of poor souls. Why are we turning a blind eye to #WhiteChildLivesMatter

preach brother, let's make america great again

Right! #WhiteChildSlavery
Forget the fact I'm 1/8th Native American; forget that I am a shaman in the tribe. Forget it all. I'm a handsome white male, so apparently nothing really happened to me. & Poor Dusty & Coco. Those talented souls. FYI, if the world was right I'd be paying them thousands & thousands of dollars a month, with direction.

#ShedATear

Conquest, that isn't child slavery.

They are volunteering to do it, maybe you should take a break from Graal it seems to be negatively affecting your perception of reality.

Child slavery is a real problem, and Graal is not part of it.

Colin, you keep running your mouth about what others should & shouldn't be perceiving about reality because you have a forum to run profiting of it—one which adds meaning to your life the more people post on it.

By all means, though—consider me the mentally deranged & illogical one. I'm sure you know exactly what is going on in everyone's heart, with all your life experience, studies in human philanthropy & all.

What happened to me was child slavery, so back off. And FYI, I am still king. You are the same kind of person who tells a 13 year old girl it wasn't pedophilia because the 40 year old convinced her to do it.

If people no longer want to work for Graal they can leave whenever and they are not forced to work they do it because they enjoy it.

Slaves don't have that luxury, they are forced into work and other situations they do not want and they are not able to prevent it or leave.

It's common sense you don't need a degree to understand this.

Okay, and when I was a child, I had no choice. I was offered free hosting then told they were taking my content & ideas & selling them for their self, & would not be paying me whether I liked it or not. I was manipulated, controlled, and enslaved. All of the fruits of my actions went to enrich someone else's life.

Do not tell me you understand my predicament, or anyone else—when in fact child slavery is a broad, broad, broad spectrum.

Times have changed though? I wouldn't consider it child slavery, and I'm pretty sure most others wouldn't either.

Your work may have been taken and you didn't get anything for it in return, but things are different now.

It was child slavery. Seducing a 12 year old girl to give a 30 year old man sex is still considered pedophilia. Believe me, even the government considers what happened to be child slavery—not that I care what the government thinks.

But your explanation, I suppose we shouldn't consider your sex change a sex change, right? You're just someone posing for another gender?

I know in my heart what happened. I was ripped off & encouraged to produce because I was 14, then taken advantage of when I asked to be rewarded because I couldn't do anything about it.

Take your own advice, I said what I said because YOU are acting like you understand everyones predicament.

All I'm saying is don't pin Graal out to be like it is some huge child slave market because it isn't.

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I don't think Dusty & Coco are child slaves. No, you are right about that. I was obviously joking. We know they're not children

Pretty sure my "sex change" has absolutely nothing to do with this topic of graal. (Even though I'm to young to even have a sex change so.)

I understand you were ripped off, I'm simply stating my opinion: I wouldn't compare some ideas for a video game to being stolen to child slavery.

I built and managed a third of Classic, and then built and managed the first pay server and created patentable software ideas. It wasn't "a few Graal ideas".

After my server was finished, they sold it and denied me compensation to fund their business and took my customer base. If the $100,000 that my game made in two years was used to fund my life 15 years ago, instead of crippled with trauma, I'd be a millionaire.

It was slavery.

To play devil's advocate here, if your stuff was patentable, why did you not do that? If you lost that much money it seems like it would have been worthwhile to patent your stuff so they didn't take it.

I think it's one of those cases if i knew then what I know now.

Don't know what he actually did for unix and stefan, but he probably didn't know what he knows now.

I was 12 and 13, and then 14 when it all happened. At 14, when they tell you that all you did was worth nothing, and being old enough to sell your stuff is their right and to go **** yourself, after you'd known them for 2 years, you believe it. It was also the dawn of the Internet, so I just cowered to the abuse