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Rufus 01-04-2016 08:18 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 656061)
But you do plan on implementing that new guild system where you can only join like 1 guild...Am I right?

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Posted by Darkk (Post 656062)
No total pk leaderboard anymore? And if this is the way classic will implement individual player achievements lol... I should be rewarded for my 200k pks, not for pking 50,000 a season. Way to mess up a great opportunity fp4/rufus

No, this is not how things will be done.

James205 01-04-2016 08:19 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 656061)
But you do plan on implementing that new guild system where you can only join like 1 guild...Am I right?

That... would be a lot of work

Thallen 01-04-2016 08:20 PM

You guys always find ways to squeeze new League of Legends spar leaderboard systems, random guild system crap, and server upgrades into random threads

fp4 01-04-2016 08:23 PM

Links in the profile are disabled for now until I have time to fix the issues with them.

Rufus 01-04-2016 08:24 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 656068)
Links in the profile are disabled for now until I have time to fix the issues with them.

Looks nicer anyway.

HmongtheSecond 01-04-2016 08:24 PM

I like it.

Thallen 01-04-2016 08:30 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 656068)
The seasonal leaderboard will determine seeding for a singles spar tournament hosted before the GST.

There will be only one GST per season now and it will now be teams of 7 cores and 3 subs of any device type.

holy crap

James205 01-04-2016 08:32 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 656072)
holy crap

I got fooled

Darkk 01-04-2016 08:37 PM

Yeah fp4 is ******ed confirmed. Games ruined, just revert back to the old system please. It will take a guild 500 wins to get from 0 guild spar points this season to where (demon) is at #1.

Aguzo 01-04-2016 08:40 PM

Is anyone else not able to gain points? I think I got a few points on ipad, switched to PC, and now I can't gain points... stuck at 4 points.

Noxious 01-04-2016 08:40 PM

Guys guys guys!!! You are all missing the bigger picture here! I can now no longer PM myself. Do you realize how much of a hassle this is? I actually have to say "no" when someone tries to recruit me to a guild that I don't want to be in.

Thallen 01-04-2016 08:41 PM

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Posted by Noxious (Post 656084)
Guys guys guys!!! You are all missing the bigger picture here! I can now no longer PM myself. Do you realize how much of a hassle this is? I actually have to say "no" when someone tries to recruit me to a guild that I don't want to be in.

just go into your message history and open a random PM

Aguzo 01-04-2016 08:41 PM

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Posted by Noxious (Post 656084)
Guys guys guys!!! You are all missing the bigger picture here! I can now no longer PM myself. Do you realize how much of a hassle this is? I actually have to say "no" when someone tries to recruit me to a guild that I don't want to be in.

Or you can load a pm from your history.

Darkk 01-04-2016 08:44 PM

One gst tournament? Pc teams will win every time as they have distinct advantages. Whatever though, only alumni and blackout are good tbh. Guilds like Silver Lion will get crushed by any idev team
^-- i got trolled.... one tournament could be cool tho

Vic 01-04-2016 08:44 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 656088)
Or you can load a pm from your history.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 656085)
just go into your message history and open a random PM

twinzies!!!!!!

James205 01-04-2016 08:45 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 656083)
Is anyone else not able to gain points? I think I got a few points on ipad, switched to PC, and now I can't gain points... stuck at 4 points.

I was able to gain points earlier, not sure about now

Noxious 01-04-2016 08:47 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 656085)
just go into your message history and open a random PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 656088)
Or you can load a pm from your history.

Ohhh yeah, thanks guys. I was just so used to the old way, didn't think about that. Still would be nice to PM myself when I get lonely, ya know? Oh well

David M. 01-04-2016 08:47 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 656090)
One gst tournament? Pc teams will win every time as they have distinct advantages. Whatever though, only alumni and blackout are good tbh. Guilds like Silver Lion will get crushed by any idev team

Pretty sure it was a troll

Agonee 01-04-2016 08:51 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 656062)
No total pk leaderboard anymore? And if this is the way classic will implement individual player achievements lol... I should be rewarded for my 200k pks, not for pking 50,000 a season. Way to mess up a great opportunity fp4/rufus

So true, thats what made the All time leaderboards so special, it keeps getting harder to be in, and many people like me nolifed the **** out of this game just to get there, nowadays I can't pk 24/7, I'm out of school and don't have to much time to pk.

Thallen 01-04-2016 08:51 PM

http://puu.sh/mjDam/542082516a.png
http://puu.sh/mjDcL/f2f65ec2ba.png

Pretty good example here of how points aren't as dumb as whoever spars the most... As we can see, the HK guy is a noob hunter who spars players negative players on average (there's literally no way to do that "accidentally"), whereas Fabulous has sparred 300 less times and has over than 1000 more points

Zetectic 01-04-2016 08:51 PM

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Posted by David M. (Post 656097)
Pretty sure it was a troll

click the blue arrow button in the quote, it redirects to the original post. :D

Reemas 01-04-2016 09:05 PM

You can still see the top guilds and players in the MOD library and Graal city library

Aguzo 01-04-2016 09:06 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It's true, I can't gain points if I switch devices.
Let me use both PC and idev to gain points?
OR just reset my points and let me use PC.

Striken 01-04-2016 09:17 PM

If anyone hasn't noticed as well, androids can now queue in the idev room.

Areo 01-04-2016 09:18 PM

Can we have an option to disable the heads? It makes the leaderboard harder to view effectively in my opinion. Though it is cool, just something I would like to have an option for.

Darkk 01-04-2016 09:21 PM

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Posted by Areo (Post 656122)
Can we have an option to disable the heads? It makes the leaderboard harder to view effectively in my opinion. Though it is cool, just something I would like to have an option for.

Unfortunately no we cannot. Here at Graal Classic we do whatever pleases Rufus, player opinions simply don't matter.

Aguzo 01-04-2016 09:51 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 656030)
Having a head start doesn't mean that you were any better in the activity than someone of today, it just literally means that you had a head start.

1. Reset the boards until today. So the people at top today are top for the season, monthly, etc. With a new board it doesn't seem fair that people had a head start, plus the points are all messed up. I had at least 4-5k points. Sarah had 20k.

2. This rating system is terrible for a tournament of "the best". It's just time consuming, but it is good for players who aren't actually "amazing" at spar be able to participate in tourneys. Not sure if it's possible to just do leagues on graal. With the old rating system, you can just do leagues.

3. If you spar on a certain type of device, such as an idev, you can't switch to PC and gain points with that as well. You should be able to, since I just wanted to test it out on idev first, because I thought I would get my old points back.

4. Rewards should be given to weekly, and monthly. If it's just seasonal, it will get boring fast. Maybe gralats to the top 10, with change in amounts respective to their placement. Monthly gets a larger prize just for sparring more. Seasonal, idk what you are planning to give them.

5. I just remembered that the fp4 message was a troll, and I wrote down how bad the rating system is for a singles tourney. If it's just to promote activity, then prizes for weekly, monthly, and daily should be added as well. Also, if you are going to add a tourney, which you should. It should change at least to the old system. With people dropping a lot of points for not sparring at least x amount of times daily.

James205 01-04-2016 09:55 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 656147)
It should change at least to the old system. With people dropping a lot of points for not sparring at least x amount of times daily.

If they fix the server lag issues virtually everyday then sure... but that won't happen anytime soon so I'm not a fan of losing points because sometimes I just don't feel like sparring in the lag.

Thallen 01-04-2016 09:56 PM

ya do the old rating system so I can spar like 40 times then maybe once every 2 weeks and get a free trophy or w/e
maybe I can even make a siderooming alt and spar using only 1 hand to get a 2nd or 3rd place spot too

Zetectic 01-04-2016 09:58 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 656121)
If anyone hasn't noticed as well, androids can now queue in the idev room.

awhile ago i used android emulator on pc and i was allowed to spar in idev room.
dunno if that's been fixed. colin witnessed it.

Aguzo 01-04-2016 09:59 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 656151)
ya do the old rating system so I can spar like 40 times then maybe once every 2 weeks and get a free trophy or w/e
maybe I can even make a siderooming alt and spar using only 1 hand to get a 2nd or 3rd place spot too

You'd have to spar x amount of times daily to keep your score.

As for siderooming, I guess you would have to spar anyone above you on leaderboard, and only 10-15 spots below you to keep your score. Anyone lower than that is probably not good enough. Not sure if 10-15 is enough.

If you are at the top. Then 2nd place should be active enough to spar you to keep scores. If you are in the middle anyone above you + 10-15 below you is more than enough. Just hunt down good people, and you keep scores.

GOAT 01-04-2016 10:30 PM

This is an OUTRAGE. I didn't spend 6 months no-lifing it just to be removed from my precious kills list. I demand that my list be returned ASAP before I unleash my wrath. Fp4 you better lock your windows SIR.







oh wait NVM I'm GOAT, like these noobs will ever forget who their daddy is. I'm good for now. As you were, carry on

Areo 01-04-2016 10:48 PM

Another adjustment that I would like to see; make the players filter(all, friends, guild) more like the device filter. Let me be able to select friends and my guild, instead of just one or the other. Would be much appreciated

Comyt 01-04-2016 10:59 PM

definitely not reading all of this because it's probably just complaining and useless suggestions from aguzo, but delivering my opinion:

kinda lame that all-time boards were removed, but overall a good update, i like how they promote more activity in sparring and guildsparring (so far). don't know what's up with these "prizes" and don't care either, never cared for prizes. don't understand how the guildsparring point leaderboard works either. i like it though solely for it promoting activity, nothing else matters that much to me.

Sardon 01-04-2016 11:14 PM

add alltime

Zetectic 01-04-2016 11:15 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 656208)
add alltime

^^^ this. we never got to see top 50 for spar wins.
i mean it's not hard to figure it out though, but i still wanna see if there's any hidden *****es :D:D

Aguzo 01-04-2016 11:46 PM

Okay so, after using the filter to same country my points became higher than what the system told me they were at.

So system says 19, I have 40+.
I guess the PC wins don't count for me, since I used idev for my first wins, but I am still gaining points, just that the system doesn't count them. The ladder does keep record tho.

Rufus 01-04-2016 11:49 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 656236)
Okay so, after using the filter to same country my points became higher than what the system told me they were at.

So system says 19, I have 40+.
I guess the PC wins don't count for me, since I used idev for my first wins, but I am still gaining points, just that the system doesn't count them. The ladder does keep record tho.

It's just an error with the display not showing your points, they do exist though. Fp4 is going to look into it later.

Darkk 01-05-2016 12:27 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 656241)
It's just an error with the display not showing your points, they do exist though. Fp4 is going to look into it later.

Please reset the guild spar points. (Demon) has 3000 points. 50 wins =500 points. Why do they get some massive head start from the glitched old system?

Koloshow 01-05-2016 12:35 AM

Are you guys planning on adding other type of leaderboards such as looting?

Rufus 01-05-2016 12:37 AM

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Posted by Koloshow (Post 656278)
Are you guys planning on adding other type of leaderboards such as looting?

It would be easy to add additional leaderboards in the future. We've discussed a few like a board for events, but there isn't nearly enough going on for that. Bug catching was another potential one, at least for Dusty's event. I dunno, we'll see I suppose.

TeK 01-05-2016 12:37 AM

This is a long shot but, could a Guild Killing board be added? Basically your kills that you get on a tag will count only for that tag. If you swifch tags, the kills you got on the first tag stay with it, and any kills you get on the second tag only count toward that tag. Maybe the top 3 PKers in the top 3 guilds could earn a prize or something? Even without prizes it'd sill be cool, plus it gives guilds a much needed real extra activity.

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Posted by Rufus (Post 656279)
It would be easy to add additional leaderboards in the future.

Maybe it's a little less of a long shot than I thought then? Pls add this would be cool, I'm sure people would like it.

Rufus 01-05-2016 12:39 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 656280)
This is a long shot but, could a Guild Killing board be added? Basically your kills that you get on a tag will count only for that tag. If you swifch tags, the kills you got on the first tag stay with it, and any kills you get on the second tag only count toward that tag. Maybe the top 3 PKers in the top 3 guilds could earn a prize or something? Even without prizes it'd sill be cool, plus it gives guilds a much needed real extra activity.

This is a nice idea. We might need to give 'Guilds' its own category for scoreboards eventually because stuff like this would be interesting.

Aguzo 01-05-2016 12:39 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 656280)
This is a long shot but, could a Guild Killing board be added? Basically your kills that you get on a tag will count only for that tag. If you swifch tags, the kills you got on the first tag stay with it, and any kills you get on the second tag only count toward that tag. Maybe the top 3 PKers in the top 3 guilds could earn a prize or something? Even without prizes it'd sill be cool, plus it gives guilds a much needed real extra activity.

I've always liked this idea.

Pking as a team is more fun than individual pking. It just feels so boring pking alone, with some friends it's a lot more fun.

TeK 01-05-2016 12:42 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 656284)
This is a nice idea. We might need to give 'Guilds' its own category for scoreboards eventually because stuff like this would be interesting.

Rufus approves, might actually happen!!!1

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 656285)
I've always liked this idea.

Pking as a team is more fun than individual pking. It just feels so boring pking alone, with some friends it's a lot more fun.

Totally agree, I already made a PK guild today to go along with the introduction of the new system bc it's way more fun that way.

Striken 01-05-2016 12:45 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 656289)
Rufus approves, might actually happen!!!1



Totally agree, I already made a PK guild today to go along with the introduction of the new system bc it's way more fun that way.

Maybe PkaD will get back in the groove.

GraalAholic 01-05-2016 01:01 AM

By removing all time scoreboard you basically wiped out important history of the game. Achievements are now a temporary thing. No longer can we leave our legacy to mark our time here. History disregarded and erased. Very insensitive to the people who spent the most time on this game.

Zetectic 01-05-2016 01:05 AM

DW SPARRERS I GOT Y'ALLS BACK!!
-stabs-

Striken 01-05-2016 01:12 AM

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Posted by GraalAholic (Post 656303)
By removing all time scoreboard you basically wiped out important history of the game. Achievements are now a temporary thing. No longer can we leave our legacy to mark our time here. History disregarded and erased. Very insensitive to the people who spent the most time on this game.

Lmao what? They didn't get rid of their stats, just removed the leaderboard. Isn't the end of the world.

GraalAholic 01-05-2016 01:24 AM

Without the all time board our achievements are not recognized and this was the purpose behind all the time we spent reaching our scores. The game was designed to keep record of score to preserve what we achieved. If we had known it would just be wiped away, would we have stayed loyal to classic? It's unfair and everyone can see that.

I don't understand why no respect is given to the people that value this game the most the people with highest all time achievements are the main supporters of classic


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