He's tried it once before. There are reputable players becoming a part of this new team, although I cannot vouch for their cooperative teamwork. Plenty of them are great people and excellent fighters from any angle (not to mention great friends), but the team itself will need work before being considered "deadly". I've never been a part of a team led by Tal, but I think he may possess the ability to tune and condition his new assembly before the next competition. Apply what Kuz said about Alumni to this newborn guild; Only time will tell.

Unfortunately, this appears to be the source of failure in many newer players trying to join competitive guilds. The good news is that from personal experience, this mentality wears off eventually and (in my opinion) a real teammate is made.

I'd rather see 60 teams full of 7 proud, loyal members than 7 monster teams of 60 players sporting the guild tag for show. This is a rather extreme example, but yeah.

this whole idea of guild loyalty and "real teams" is disgusting. let's be honest, 99% of the people preaching "real teams" only assemble their guilds for the purpose of winning the gst. your members are only "loyal" because they think they can win and they allow you to use them for GST. they are not your "friends" they are internet people playing a game, and their goal is to win in the game. this is evident by people ditching their "friends" for different guilds just for a "better GST team." ex: (Ruthless),(DoT), me from (US) to (Sage), eko from (Deity) to (Alumni), roxas from (Ruthless) crew to (5pa4), etc... hope you all realize this eventually.

don't get mad at me for being the only person to be real with you on these forums.

with that being said, tae and yurhomi are the 2 most loyal members of any guild ever formed. been with me since i picked them up when they were nobodies.

99% may be a bit of a stretch, but you're on the right tracks. Sometimes the reason for leaving a guild is not as close to the surface as one might imagine, and the same goes for a player joining a new guild. For the most part, though, you're on point.

Come to think of it, I think loads of every present day guilds have some sort of that going on somewhere. It doesn't necessarily taint the guild or the player, but it is undoubtedly negative and sadly exists.

Maybe not more than anyone ever depending on who's opinion you ask, but that truly is an admirable reference.

Alumni didn't enter their first GST until 6 months after the guild was made, because I continued to concede to my friends in US out respect to the guild, so I'm either in the 1% or you're just incorrect - either way, why should the purpose of any sparring guild not be to win? You know you can structure your guild so that you give yourself a chance to win while still maintaining some dignity and respect to your loyal and contributing members, right?

say that to people like Daze (1+ year in Alumni, never been in GST), Male (been sat out of every GST), Junior (sat him out of last GST), etc.
maybe the concept is beyond your grasp, but some players enjoy being part of a well-organized group of people that get along and do well together in the game

clearly what you've said is the case for certain people, and everyone knows that, but I don't understand why you preach it as if it's some well-guarded secret that only you know about
yes, we all know that some people are attracted to guilds with a reputation and they show loyalty to that guild in part because they feel as if the guild benefits them - it's not a secret

"because 1 person does something, all people do something"
stop polarizing and acting as if everyone does something because certain people do something
I mean, no **** that certain people leave their guild out of interest in joining a more competitive guild, but who doesn't expect that out of certain people?

some people do it and some people don't

you tha reali$t man

both asked to join Alumni
briefly recruited Tae
that's all I'll say because anything more will get an angsty and emotional status from Yurhomi (go ahead, you always do this)

cue the random personal attacks because I challenged someone's thought process regarding the semantics of guilds on Graal

I'm not sure if Comyt was specifically referring to Alumni when he said "your guild" and "your members", but Thallen presents valid examples in opposition in general. Also defensive, but proven rightfully so. Although, let's cut the slander, guys. No one wants to read it, and neither of you want to type it.

Hmm, I think that perhaps this is a common bond formed in guilds between its members that initially holds the team together. Maybe the behavior is positive in some circumstances rather than negative. Perhaps it depends on the player in question. (People naturally feel the need to be proud of where they are.)

<open thread again>

I'm sure he wasn't, but I'm using specific examples to question why he thinks certain things - I have 0 experience in other guilds and don't pay attention to most of what happens in other guilds, so I can't really provide any actual examples other than what goes on in Alumni

I don't see what's wrong with it at all - two more examples that are personal and relative to my own guild:

1. Sarah and I did not get along when we first met and she actually made some parody guild about Alumni being "boosters," we talked about it and I realized she wasn't a bad person and was just messing around and doing what she wanted - we started talking more and after a while I decided I'd ask her if she wanted to join the guild because I noticed that she was really quiet and just sparred a ton (and is good at it), and I like that
2. Never really got along with Eko and argued with him on these forums before, but upon him asking to join the guild we started talking and he seems like a cool person - why should I not give someone the chance to help the guild, even if it may be out of personal benefit to themselves?

So, what I'm saying is that Comyt acts as if the "guild helps player while player helps guild" relationship is some bad or poisonous one, but it isn't. That's what it's supposed to be. That's what causes people to establish some sort of loyalty to the guild and what causes the guild or leader of the guild to feel as if certain players are really important to them.

It's never "deadly" when he is missing his sister from the team. ;)

no need for any more personal attacks, demrow already showed everyone how weird you are.

i could respond to your joke with the whole alumni getting along and stuff, but i have already pointed out that some of your members don't even speak your language.

i don't care about your little alumni history with them, they ended up on my side when every GST came around.

and jesus christ stop replying to everything i post like it's directed at you, i'd use the ignore button but then i wouldn't be able to see your idiotic responses to everything i post and i'd have to rely on someone telling me on graal.

too lazy to type out an essay so i'll just end it here with a quote from tae:
"alumni are so ****ing weird man"

cue salt fest, predictable 8 paragraph responses and links to various webpages nobody will read.
inb4 thread closes.
see you guys, if you want more entertainment later hmu on graal.

a predictably immature, aggressive, and angry reply from Comyt
this guy

lol, if Demrow did anything, he showed how incredibly immature he is.

I'll do the honors, since he's never posted anything intelligent or calm anyway:
http://puu.sh/9ldgX/d3820269ce.png

THERE YOU GO, FRIEND

yawn, y'all are killin another thread

I like Thall's specific examples in his post above. Still, I think a well conditioned team performs in competition better than one that simply gets along (which by the way, did happen to Alumni, to follow up with the examples). Which ties us back to the main concept of the thread. :D

i want to report comet for plagiarism. He stole my thoughts and claimed them as his own.





Note: dont mind me just passing by, the argument can continue now.


another note: Winter, getting in between these two is like trying to get a bone from two hungry dogs, it can be dangerous.



klassy made me realize this


let them vent, eventually they will make up and end up with each other

discussion, facts, real examples vs. personal insults, little man syndrome, diva hair flips

the thought itself is about as necessary to point out as "the sky is blue" though, and that's what I'm getting at

it's not even worth questioning that there are people who join strong guilds because they see it as a way to progress individually, yet that does nothing to take away from the fact that there are people who care about being part of a cool group of people and achieving stuff as a guild

that should never be the core of any argument, because the people who are pointing it out need their Captain Obvious capes, and the people arguing against it are wrong


BTW, Comyt himself is an exact example of what he's trying to preach against - GOAT, I know you saw how the name "Talbourn" just randomly slipped into his "dream team" list of PC players earlier in the thread (and that's not to say Talbourn isn't a good sparrer)

trust me, it's DEFINITELY NOT because he just joined a guild that Talbourn is the leader of - he'd have done the same exact thing for Deophite had Deo never removed Comyt, Tae, and the others from US (bless you Deo for not allowing yourself to be manipulated by that kid, recruit whoever he suggests, and ruin the entire image of US)

two things then i'm really out:

1. talbourn recruited me and eddy to his guild (DoX) a really long time ago before i was even considered for (US). to say i am only complimenting him to benefit myself or whatever would be pretty damn stupid, i don't need someone to set me up in an idevice team, i just thought maybe i could finally finish what talbourn wanted to start before (Mother) was even a thing. if you look at the (Memory) members, more than half of the idevices are (Sage) members. bringing the crew. i don't even care about benefitting myself in the game anymore anyways, obsessing over GST teams and all kind of gets old after you've already won so many times and accomplished everything that other people are still working towards.

^btw this post is basically game over, gg.

2. at this point i forgot my second thing honestly. it was probably really important but i'll just write whatever here. goat, i'm not stealing anything you said, check my post history, i've been preaching the same stuff. here to actually point out real facts and make people think, my posts aren't "angry little-man syndrome" they're more intelligent than every post thallen has ever made combined. these forums need someone to point out that he is constantly lying to everyone and sorry if it pisses you off but that's been me most of the time.

adding a third: you all take me way too serious and freak out over every little thing i post way too heavily. i'm not mad on the internet, i don't know what everyone's image of me is but it seems completely wrong. i'm just trying to have fun while still provoking people to think. and provoking people to get insanely mad and obsess over forum posts that i make is part of the "having fun."

can't read that post but I bet it's angry and probably calls me at least one name

No, and no.

And ive never read any of Comyts posts as "immature, angry, or uncalm" as you say. Unless you're saying you are those things too, because your posts towards him look exactly the same as his. His posts towards you are only aggressive because like to sit on his balls 24/7. You added him to your ignore list, yet you're still replying to him.

#Twil4MoD

not taking sides and i dont like getting in-between personal issues but its time for some more dream teams before nooblbus comes in with the deletion hammer.
why tf am i trying to stop a beautiful flame war. ive gone soft :"(

Seconded!

You have major reading comprehension issues then!

Wow. Ok. Thallen, many people insult because you are older than most of the people here, but I find it worse that you act like this all the time. Whenever anyone says something in the slightest that is insulting to you, you go off your rocker! I'm not going to wait for the paragraph of attacks against me that you have well researched, but I will congratulate you on being the first to visit my ignore list!

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION SOMEONE'S INACCURATE COMPARISON OF YOUR POST(S) TO SOMEONE ELSE'S THALLEN!!!!!
click 2 view Thallen in all of his awfulness, spewing personal insults, anger, and hatred everywhere (warning: very offensive and rude)

Trust me, if I wanted to be as bad as a few of you try and make me out to be, I'd come in this thread and…

I'd tell Comyt he's a basic peasant who is better suited chatting about his "real life" and making gloomy statuses (that 15-3 series though)
I'd tell Kuz that his predictions and assessment of the spar community are absolutely awful, and his obsession with "spar rumors" is revolting
I'd tell Michael he's a spar-thread groupie who pretends to "spar actively on an alt" as his way to intrude these threads and seem relevant
and I'd tell Sariss that he's a nobody who does nothing but obsessively enter these threads to try and instigate

but I don't do that, do I? I instead make very thought-out posts that generally contribute to the discussion! :)

Thallen you're such a firecracker.

is that slang for ginger now?

only "basic peasant" who can outspar alumni members regularly and 1v2 jack sparrow and "top guildsparrer" AKA 3G abusing lagger sarah in GST.

^and this is why he is still butthurt on the forums btw.

but i'll just keep writing "gloomy statuses" also known as "song lyrics" as that has been 90% of my statuses in 2014.

thanks guys for letting him know you feel differently about my "clear forum anger" ^^^ but unfortunately you cannot challenge thallen and tell him he is wrong. inserting small personal attack: like another 20+ year old man who dated teenagers, shinta, he is trapped in his own strange world where he only believes his own ideas and if the dude said "the sun revolves around the earth" he would believe it and you would be unable to prove him wrong. much like shinta with "i am not a *********" while dating a 15 year old girl.

carry on with your forum life, maybe if we all put thallen on our ignore lists we could actually talk about the topics for once.

I'd just bring the Mercy family out of their coffins and enjoy the **** out of it.

"I predict Alumni, Deity, SLX, and Essence will yet again be the only 4 real guilds in the GST who don't frantically recruit or materialize 1-2 weeks before the tournament, therefore they win by default" -Thallen

I'll just keep this there because I don't even need to type anything to go with that it's basically self-explanatory the point i'm making.

Anyway back on topic before this thread gets locked.

I haven't done on iDevice Dream team I believe but I guess if I were to have one it'd be:

Comyt (Experienced,amazing under pressure as shown by his 1v2 clutch against Jack and Sarah in the GST)

PrimeTime (I legit thought PT was on PC for a long time because his moves are so amazing by far the best rusher iDev sparrer)

Sarah (Very good clutch and good under pressure)

Roxas (Got really nice moves and his team work is epic)

Tae (Very strong sparrer hard to beat in any situation)

Stop with the essays and links bro, ain't nobody got time for that ****.

:rolleyes: half the threads you post on are instantly derailed way offtopic

except when----V

i thought the same thing until i saw him in the idevice only room


but i do think if Sarah worked more on her offensive skills she would be deadlier than what she already is.

Recent players

Idevice

Primetime
Comyt
Sarah
Junior
Abood

Mixed

Thallen
Dante
Felix
Eko
6jack9

(counting Ares David Ph8 Talbourn as inactive from sparring in that list)

Ares
Greenarrow
Tucker

I wanted to make a 5 man team of just ppl who will rush non stop and I could only come up with these 3 who live up to my expectations of 100% offense

Greenarrow used to beat me up so bad :)

his meat still says that:D

lol :D

:sarcastic:

ggwp

From my own personal experiences and I won't include myself

-PTJenova (from Apostles)
-Sarah (Alumni)
-Tucker6 (multiple guilds)
-Jagger (nWo)
-Abel (nWo)


Subs
-Thallen (Alumni)
-Demrow (SLX)
-Skull (SLX)



I was considering adding more people from Alumni to my list based on track record but to be honest I haven't really sparred many of them seriously personally and the ones who I don't just say F it when sparring them because its such a snoozefest I usually do very well against.

PTJenova is kind of a d-bag about 90% of the time but knows how to guild spar pretty well, except when guild sparring against teams I'm on lol.

Sarah because she's the biggest snoozefest of them all and never dies because of decent sparring and lag.

Tucker6 because he always seems to be on a winning team, don't know much about him other than he always PM's me about the nWo

Jagger and Abel because of a good track record, great sparrers, and nWo.

Heya there !

Since I still want to get staff on iClassic when I was 10 I will write my personal experiences.
+ if you even just touch someone of these they will ban you for 8.000 hours.

Main ( immortals)
-Stefan - always nice but he can use bombs in spar. lol!!
-Unixmad - is the boss of the team
-Xor - has the power to d/c you without any reason but he adds one which is "inappropriate behavior"
-Pelé - he hits you without even seeing him. Very rare.
-Cristiano Ronaldo - is just wold sparrer 2013/14

Subs (Mortals)

-Thallen (feel honored, prob nevers answers to my pms so he needs to be pro,yea im srs)
-eko and kouji (this is my team so there are 3 subs, *******)

LOL

OK now for real .. In no particular order:

Main (mortals)

-mk - actually a noob but spars like a man (lol wat)
-eko- idk somehow he has british lag which makes him good
-thallen - is a "pc oldie" needs to be good
-dae - is OP
-kouji - we are really close friends or was idk but the first time i sparred him on pc i think he was like this sucks now hes op and this aint good

Subs (immortals, dis is prob like in fifa , you first have a noob in the team then change him to make the enemy rage)

-runedevil when he's mad hes bad and better (needed a rime)
-ph8 never talks but owns
-ruke has the movements like a ruker lol srsly
-john just lags same as eko which makes hm good
-fulgore very silent on ts3 makes me annoyed os he owns me in ****ing spar

#THISFANTASOPTEAM

The usual. Cores: Doublelift, Pkay, Tykian, Kicko, Jay Subs: my brother and Livid.

Ph8 does talk if you call him god and beat him in ctf! And runedevil should be a main and replace mk because if you ask mk, he has a powerpuff collection since his 6th birthday.

My new iDevice Dream Team with active sparrers.
Primetime, Bob, Tae, Luvious, Austin.

My dream team would be:
1. Pac Man
2. Pac Man
3. Pac Man
4. Pac Man
5. Pac Man

I spit hot fiya!

mydream will be

1. asaiki
2. asaiki
3.asaiki
4.assaiki
5.asaiki

I hope you both have higher dreams for your own lives..

just give anyone a lvl 3 sword
When im in the mood i can do well in gs
It takes alot of training but i was able to series many good sparers
now i am bad because i havent sparred since the last gst