Do you even remember what the topic of this thread was? We're talking about terrorism, not dictatorships or abusive governments. Your original response was that Iran is a terrorist state because it has an extremist government, but that is not the definition of terrorism. Iran's government can screw itself, they are bat**** insane, but that isn't radical islamic terrorism.

North Korea is a good example because you equivalated nuclear ambitions with terrorism.

You seem to think I'm defending them, when I'm merely pointing out that your definition of terrorism is skewed.

ok you win, idc anymore this is boring me now, the middle east is a fxcked up region, north korea might as well be a terrorist nation too and im done, thanks for your time.

Thanks for playing.

I, of course, do agree that the middle east is a ****hole and North Korea needs to get its ass kicked already.

To my understanding, the hatred of a whole people or culture comes about through ignorance, usually people like American "rednecks" or Australian "bogans" are the most racist because they identify extremists as everyone of that belief system or race.

Sorry if this has been said, I couldn't be bothered reading all the posts x.x

What you guys don't see is the stuff America has been doing to muslims in their own countries.

Hardly every country.

Geez, hard core arguments. Personally I don't mind the Muslims but then I heard some of the girls carry knifes and I was like "OHHHHHH CRAP IM MOVING GOTTA THEIR WAY!"

I don't know where you guys live, but the pacific northwest is where its at. In my entire time here I have never encountered any type of racism or discrimination.

None of this happening in ny right now.

Despite the insane amounts of racism and just shear stupidity displayed in this thread I managed to persevere and read through the comments.

First of all I'd like to say that Muslims don't and will not classify terrorists as part of their religion, I mean how can they be you either accept the entire religion you cant be Muslim you're not allowed pick and choose what you believe. It says very clearly in their scripture that they're not allowed to kill others or themselves so why when they can't even do the basics of Islam should they even be classified as Muslims.

Because America kills them in their hundreds while you live here peacefully in your blissful ignorance and when they flee the bloodshed your heartless leaders have cursed upon them you question their logic. Your racist country is involved in countless Muslim countries and continues to meddle in issues that do not involve yourselves.

Is that what Fox news told you genius? Iran doesn't have enough of the required radioactive elements to produce those nuclear weapons that you're being lied to about, in fact they only have enough to produce energy like electricity which is their intention but you carry on being an ignorant fool, you're good at it.

P.S I'm an Agnostic Theist just in case you're wondering.

Glad you brought up Fox News Dae*. Fox News led a man to set fire to Mosque (I'll try to get a link to story later). Fox News and the Jewish-controlled media is what's destroying America.

To be honest I think the situation in North Korea isn't as bad as the media says it is.

People of every religion "pick and choose" what they want to believe. There are multiple interpretations of every major religion and, overtime, some change the message they're trying to portray so that they can stay relevant in society. Hell, islam has two major sects which have been killing eachother in Iraq. As for Islam, they actually can kill if certain criteria are met. A muslim extremist would argue that the West, or more specifically America and Israel, are threatning islam. That's pretty much a green light for the mujahideen.

How do you think it is?

I didn't choose to be a Muslim I was born one and you can't change or you'll face the death penalty.

I'm choking.

No offence intended, but your entire religion, country and government is a joke.

They can pick and choose with other religions like Christianity because they've been changed over time whereas Islam is the same as it was 1400 years ago you either accept it in its entirety or you're not a Muslim IMO. But all this extremism and fundamentalism within religions can all simply be solved by at least a half decent education on both sides.

These extremist would have no grounds for holy war if America and Israel were meddling in their issues. The area America singles out for being a terrorist hot spot would be the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan in which the tribes who are far better armed than the Taliban or extremist groups have allowed them to reside there because of American and foreign involvement against their countries. If America were stop its meddling and leave within a short period of time the tribesman would reclaim their land and dispose of those extremist but while America continues its drone attacks there's so chance of that happening, there's is absolutely no way that Muslim countries want to see their own people slaughtered by bombs and extremists on a daily basis because they are forced into "the war on terror" by people like Bush and Obama who threaten them by saying this such as "Either you're with us or against us" the Muslim countries can deal with this problem themselves but America and Israel wish to destabilize these countries for their own gain.

Had anyone even heard of Sunni Shi'ite violence before "the war on terror" such issues were no existent its only when America invaded and constantly pushed their Sunni Shi'ite propaganda and put them against each did such violence occur.

The solution for this problem is known to us and has been proven to work. Sri Lanka (Small island in Asia) also for many years struggled with terrorist issues quite similar to the ones Muslim countries face today, the Sri Lankan's did not need or have any foreign meddling in their issues and over time have completely eradicated such problems by themselves and allowed their country to flourish on tourism.

Care to explain, or are you just gonna brainlessly hate and regurgitate what you've heard on the TV?

[QUOTE="iHot;352936"] Fox News and the Jewish-controlled media is what's destroying America.
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LOL

This is probably the most disrespectful thing I ever ever seen someone say.

Well where to start? Just because it is not inside the territory of a country does not mean it does not concern then.

Yes, most but not all terrorists are Muslim but that does not state that every Muslim is a terrorist, when was the last time you met a Muslim and they told you they were gonna plan on hurting people, probably never right? I'm not religious or anything but I don't like the fact that Muslims get so much hate towards them bugs me, a lot because they (the ones who aren't terrorists) are friendly people and probably never in their life have even encountered an act of terrorism. Now Americans who say "well why are they in our country?" Places like Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran are all places consisted in war so to get away from the war they migrate to safer countries, manly American because of it's large land area. I see no problem with Muslims and they haven't done anything to me so they aren't all bad people and I hope you realise that too.

Its not your territory you have no right to be there, but do tell me what these issues are that concern you.

k :(.

Are you Christian, catholic etc?

I'm starting to see a nice side of you while you're admitting this, which is true.

What? There are different versions of islam, and people will always re-interpret religions overtime. If its in their scriptures (which started by word of mouth, super reliable guys!!!) that they can resort to violence to defend their religion then its up to the believer to justify the cause.

USA meddles in the middle east, but the war between Iraq and Iran was fueled by nothing more than the different sects of islam. The USA supported Iraq but Saddam ****ing hated Shia islam. Iran not only defended itself, but pushed into Iraq. The UN then intervened and told Iran to let them be. I do agree in letting them do what they want, though. The world should stop trying to white knight these backwards countries and let things run their course. Some groups will slaughter eachother. It's just a shame that Britain went and modernized so much of it though, only to get kicked out. On the subject of Britain, you do realize England was the worst offender of meddling with everyone's affairs in the middle east, right?

Muslims have been fighting in the name of their god since the birth of their religion and have had no tolerance for other cultures/beliefs. To argue that a true muslim cannot or shouldn't kill is ridiculous considering their prophet was a war general and took part. They use the arguement of "self-defense" but we all know this is bull****. You can spin the "self-defense" card in any direction you want, it's so obvious how this is abused.

Where do I even begin with this? My brother's friend of a friend joined a militant muslim group and died in Syria. Good riddance.

I'm not going to argue that Islam nowadays isn't very secularised because it is what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the words have not been changed from when they were revealed there should be no sects just one religion and any sect that does stray from the scripture should not even be classified as Muslims.

The Islamic scriptures are more reliable than that of the other two main monotheistic religions. The Qur'an was written during the time of their prophet under his own supervision but wasn't compiled into a book till later so there really should be no question over its legitimacy.


Yes I do realise England does as America does and likes to stick their nose where it doesn't belong there should be no foreign country intervening in this issues whatsoever.

If they weren't being slaughtered on a daily basis by foreign troops then of course the excuse of "self defense" would be bull**** but they are being wiped out to expect no resistance would be beyond foolish.

Never once have I met a Muslim like the ones you speak of all the ones I've met have been very well educated intelligent caring people.

If you are unable to see an issue with living under a system where you face death for changing your faith, I have news for you. It seemed to me like CourierSix would prefer not to have been born into his faith.

I prefer not to identify as anything in particular.

Back to where I stated "most but not all Muslims" and also "probably" so it was
pretty much a multiple choice question

If islam is true to its origins then that makes the whole situation even worse. I think the real arguement here is whether one accepts different interpretations of a religion, and whether it still counts as being part of the religion. Naturally I think it's silly that there's flaws in religions and people choose to be "moderate x" where x = christian, muslim, or jewish.

This isn't a modern thing, they've been doing this since the birth of islam.


I'm not claiming muslims are like this. The original arguement was that a muslim can kill and still be muslim.

Quite obvious that most people of any religion, culture, or country don't fall into the extremely negative stereotypes. I directly answered your question before, even if it is a rare exception to the norm.

I'm a vegetarian,people are rude to me all the time cuz I'm different.Just blend into society the way i do and go with the flow.One religion isn't better than another.We are all equal souls.

I just don't like Veggies/ Vegans who go around telling it to everyone, makes me think they're attention horses to be honest, other than that I don't mind.

Lol, horses.

Veggies! I just wanted to post :D

1. Defending the human rights of the people who live there
2. Oil.
3. Securing political interests
4. National security
5. Make the world a better place for the people who live there and everyone else.

Yeah Vietnamese and Iraqis were so happy under the US influence, you're right!
'Murica hell yeah!

Iraqis were better off under a safe US or UN administration than with Saddam. Vietnam was all about protecting South Vietnam who were better off than before it became united than after.

I'm done with this thread.

Wow since i last commented on this thread it seems it has gotten worse