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If children are capable of manipulating the game, speaks volume of your skill level. Just saying. Don’t take this personal
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Poorly made anti-cheat that anyone with a brain can make a counter within minutes lmao
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In the case of iClassic this is done by using a ban screen and applying a ban reason, since they've properly notified you of why your account is banned already they aren't required to follow up via e-mail, also, your alt accounts are unidentified so how could they email you anyway? From what I've gathered they were banned first and your main account was not (first violation) then your main account was banned later for it. They also have several statements indicating that accounts are dealt at the sole discretion of GraalOnline meaning ultimately they have full control over what happens to an account and the punishments they give out, because some violations are more serious and should be treated like such, Quote:
When you AFK spam-click farm on 3 alt accounts at once using non-identified accounts it's pretty suspicious, physically maintaining 3 accounts at once is just awkward and you even said you could have missed a few queues because you weren't paying attention. A video of you doing it isn't proof either. Moving your character back to it's position when staff drag you also isn't really a solid defense because any good bot would be designed to do that (set to perform a certain action at a certain place so if it's not then it moves to that position). Just comes down to the fact that someone efficiently maintaining 3 accounts at once by hand is just really suspicious especially using unidentified accounts, should just take better precaution or stick to two accounts and pay attention when you do so, can't really blame the staff because this does look like botting even if you weren't. You've also posted videos in the past of you using physical objects like allen keys to farm without you having to be there or providing screen input(and deleted one after recent events to my knowledge). Lastly, to anyone criticizing the detection system used, understand that it's not as black and white as it looks simply because they aren't going to show how their whole bot detection setup works. |
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Fascinating. Quite a bit of strange banning lately that has come to my attention. People seem to not even get a warning anymore. There's also been a sort of 'pinch' on the money making in the game, which is pretty disappointing, leading to people scamming and exploiting things like the auto-farmer.
So far we've had changes including but not limited too:
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Let's be clear. It's not about 5,000 gralats or 100,000 gralats. It's about unwarranted change in a system that was never needed to begin with negatively effecting player experience. Suddenly making changes without warning in the user experience will cause all kinds of negative reactions. It breaks down like this... 1.) User happily performs behaviors for reward (perceived value of time) 2.) User forms a personal goal of a set amount (objective) 3.) User reaches that set amount and feels accomplished (positive user experience) If you interrupt this system, it will cause a negative user experience, either causing the gameplay to become simple and boring or overly difficult and not rewarding. Football Analogy Spoiler
I'm not suggesting that monetizing the game is easy, but there are ways that will incentivize in-app purchases without causing people to be angry or dissatisfied with the product. I've personally written dozens of ideas in this same forum previously and had zero feedback, so I'm not going to give more here. If anyone actually wants to hear some effective monetization strategies, feel free to msg me. |
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I meant more along the lines of whole strategies, regardless of the quality of individual pieces. Stuff like unique hats/heads/accessories given out to players purchasing a gralat pack over the month/season/week/whatever. In order to collect them all, players would need to pay real money. Another technique would be granting access to a special store or location. I know there's Oasis island already, but when that was created, VIP costing 7500 was a big stumbling block. Now the price has become attainable in a few hours (or days). I like being able to get there, but if it means that players will be happy, why not improve the area, bulk up the available activities and incentives to be there, and make it accessible only to those who have spent real money. It's not introducing a new currency, it's just rewarding players who support the product. There's dozens of ways that other games do it. Tons of non-invasive methods to make the money off players who are ready to spend. Even without making a single hat cost 15,000 gralats or forcing non-paying players to farm for 100 hours a month to be able to buy a morph. The current state of it displays a lack of long term development strategy. |
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2. iClassic has the same policies as PC graal. If you look up the app, you will notice that GraalOnline website is associated to the app. The app's privacy policy even states that GraalOnline.com automatically records information sent by your game client on their game server logs. 3. Moving my character is a solid defense, they just didn't take my word for it, and didn't bother to check my movements logs. Dusty said that I didn't move, no one bothered to check what the staff that banned me did. 4. Regarding the use of physical objects, such as an allen key. They don't work past the "are you still there?" message, and the autotap doesn't last very long (10-15 seconds max). Graal probably has something that detects insanely fast input that a human cannot do, so it stops the allen (from what I've seen) Yes, graalonline has full control, but they are violating their own rules by not following their "extremely abusive behavior" rule, in which they are supposed to reply with an email, especially when on the ban screen it states that you have to contact support.toonslab.com, not "please wait for a reply from a staff member on the forums, who wasn't there at the time of your ban" Not just that, they do have log files being recorded on their servers (stated in their privacy policy), which would have cleared up the "you didn't move when the staff member dragged you" test. I have no idea why you're saying that GraalOnline does not control these forums, when you can't advertise another game similar to graal, and they have so many other rules which show that GraalOnline is in control of Graalians.com https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...09&postcount=1 You have players who are actually cheating in the game, while the others get banned based on assumptions. |
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2. Logs isn't gonna do jack **** here lmao. 3. Your movements aren't a defense in this case. No one's gonna take your word for it, you were handed a punishment like everyone else so suck it up rather than being careless and less attentive to your actions. |
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Banning an unidentified account for "hacking/cheating" does not serve as a warning, because I had no idea what they were being banned for. I figured they were banned, since they were fresh accounts. Doesn't qualify as a warning against botting Logs do actually help in this case, since they have your message history, and I even told the staff who dragged me "I'm not using macros/bots" something along those lines as soon as I was dragged It's not the same kind of punishment when it was just an assumption. Why don't they ban the speed hackers who have slightly above average speed? They should have done more tests, instead of dragging me once, and me missing the prompt 2-4 times out of probably 20-30+ (2 weeks ago) |
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