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Vicipower 06-19-2016 03:57 AM

wait, kids can have guns in america? What? why?
Cops in schools?
what

i mean i heard of kids shooting up their schools but is that a frequent thing, is that y u guys need cops in schools?
thats actually pretty ****ing terrifying

Santa Claus 06-19-2016 04:08 AM

We ain't paying teachers enough to teach us. I wouldn't want to put more stress on them needing to pull a trigger if that ever happens which to me us 1% chance if it isn't a ghetto area


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Posted by Vicipower (Post 715652)
wait, kids can have guns in america? What? why?
Cops in schools?
what

i mean i heard of kids shooting up their schools but is that a frequent thing, is that y u guys need cops in schools?
thats actually pretty ****ing terrifying



No. That never happens. Only a few cases. Kids aren't allowed to have guns. You have to be I believe 18 in areas.

Cops are mainly for fights. So they can issues tickets or arrest them and take them in. Mainly just to make sure everything goes as it should.

I never had a shooting in my area.

Colin 06-19-2016 04:17 AM

Here in the case of a fight our teachers just go Super Saiyan and intervene (they don't use agressive violence, but they hold the right to use whatever force nessecary to seperate students).

Here a student recieves a suspension by the board and nothing more, police are only brought in if an outside party presses charges.

MrSimons 06-19-2016 04:36 AM

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 715652)
wait, kids can have guns in america? What? why?
Cops in schools?
what

i mean i heard of kids shooting up their schools but is that a frequent thing, is that y u guys need cops in schools?
thats actually pretty ****ing terrifying

No, federal law requires you to be 18 to purchase a gun, and most states have restrictions on top of that. Weapons of any sort also aren't allowed in schools unless they are carried by officers or under special circumstances.

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 715656)
Kids aren't allowed to have guns. You have to be I believe 18 in areas.

Cops are mainly for fights. So they can issues tickets or arrest them and take them in. Mainly just to make sure everything goes as it should.

I never had a shooting in my area.

My school required an officer present to search a student (drugs, weapons).

Skyzer 06-19-2016 06:22 AM

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 715652)
wait, kids can have guns in america? What? why?
Cops in schools?
what

i mean i heard of kids shooting up their schools but is that a frequent thing, is that y u guys need cops in schools?
thats actually pretty ****ing terrifying

It's less about students shooting up schools, and more about students being in gangs. It is to a point where teachers are risking their lives to teach in some places in the US.

Guns look like the problem to people outside of the US, but there are a lot more factors.

Alex Damian 06-19-2016 06:25 AM

I mean there were a lot of school shootings the past year(s), and there is usually just 1-2 cops in the whole entire school (I think at least), but I still don't know if I'm fully on the YES side to giving teachers the right to bear arms

Sardon 06-19-2016 06:28 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 715615)
You guys have cops in your schools.......... ????żżżż

heard those wierdos even have metal detectors outside of the schools I mean shooting ranges

Brick 06-19-2016 07:29 AM

I don't see why not. If the teacher wants to have a gun, I say go for it. I'm not saying it should be mandatory for teachers to have guns, but if the teacher wants to go through the training and such in order to have a gun ready in case of emergency then why not? Couldn't make the situation any worse. If people don't want their kids exposed to that kind of thing I'm sure there are plenty of other gun-free schools to choose from.

Now without using insults, I am open to have a nice discussion with anyone who might disagree.

MrSimons 06-19-2016 08:58 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 715717)
I don't see why not. If the teacher wants to have a gun, I say go for it. I'm not saying it should be mandatory for teachers to have guns, but if the teacher wants to go through the training and such in order to have a gun ready in case of emergency then why not? Couldn't make the situation any worse. If people don't want their kids exposed to that kind of thing I'm sure there are plenty of other gun-free schools to choose from.

Now without using insults, I am open to have a nice discussion with anyone who might disagree.

I disagree. I think that having a weapon should be a responsibility held by campus security and SRO's. If a teacher is going to have a weapon that will be useful in an emergency situation, then it would need to be stored in the classroom, which (even if it is in a locked container) would make it much easier for a student to get a hold of.

Makes much more sense to keep firearms on the person of trained security and police.

Brick 06-19-2016 06:25 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 715733)
I disagree. I think that having a weapon should be a responsibility held by campus security and SRO's. If a teacher is going to have a weapon that will be useful in an emergency situation, then it would need to be stored in the classroom, which (even if it is in a locked container) would make it much easier for a student to get a hold of.

Makes much more sense to keep firearms on the person of trained security and police.

I do think the teacher should go through training before being able to have a firearm in the classroom, but I don't think it should be limited to just security or police. Many schools don't have either of those. If someone starts shooting in one of those schools, the only defense the students and teachers have is a locked door. The only downside I can think of is it would be easier for students to get a hold of the weapon, but even that seems unlikely if the teacher can find a secure place to keep it.

Senpai Enigma 06-19-2016 06:32 PM

my old school had panic buttons in each rooms and about 10 cops, it wasnt a ghetto school at all but they always prepared

Crono 06-19-2016 06:34 PM

ya im stayin outta this one lol

G Fatal 06-19-2016 06:57 PM

Americans are dumb as fk.

'Hey lets arm another person, but still go on about mass shootings'
Like the only place that has multiple mass shootings going on over and over. y'all don't even need a guns, protection my arse.

Skyzer 06-19-2016 07:43 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 715850)
Americans are dumb as fk.

'Hey lets arm another person, but still go on about mass shootings'
Like the only place that has multiple mass shootings going on over and over. y'all don't even need a guns, protection my arse.

Seems like you don't understand what freedom is. As an American, I don't quite like my rights being taken from me, be it for security or no. You can call that dumb, but don't be upset when I call you dumb for giving up your freedoms.

The United States is a Democracy. If Americans truly want to get rid of guns, guns would be restricted. However, there are more issues to deal with than just regulating guns.

DanteGraal 06-19-2016 07:57 PM

I've watched enough action movies to know that this is a great idea. It helps that the bad guys have horrible aim while the good guys (teachers) can take the wings off a fly from a 100 yards out.

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 715656)
No. That never happens. Only a few cases.

Since 2013, there have been at least 188 school shootings in America resulting in 60+ deaths. Definitely far from only a few cases.


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