****in' hell--that's long.

But isn't it the man himself who chooses what he will do with the money? Therefore, it is their choices that are evil, and not the money. I don't think getting rich has anything to do with working hard, but it has everything to do with being smart. I then conclude that money is simply a trap. Those who approach the trap be cautious in the event that stupidity can clash with intelligence. I suppose the creation of the trap can be an evil choice, so your definition does make sense to me.

I realize that. It's not what I was implying.

You cannot translate a man's soul—the goodness he commits by choice with his creative efforts & spirit, his labor—into a tangible paper representation which can be passed around to others. It isn't real; this money can be trivialized, the wages vary based on agreement or favor, inherited by family, given away, stolen, lost, finagled, seized, and burned. Money was created to steal effort, and enslave those who were capable by those who were not; the entire system is run by dark forces: Men who live behind masks & facades, and not by truth. They are professional liars, and the realm of stereotypical "beauty" and "professionalism" is itself a facade that they have invented to keep the hamsters running wheels of vanity to distract from the reality that the predator is running the show. They're changing language & images so quickly, policies, and prices—laws, politics—on a dangling lure, empty & hooked; you think you're catching up but you never will. What you see as glamour & success is the art of prostitution born from the archetypes of *****s & thieves in the human species; they were born to seduce and fool you, it is their career—and you'll try to keep up even if you never get a taste of the flesh … But you want it. Only almost wholly similar soulless sluts can keep up, and this is the answer to the riddle; it's just a repetitious game of emptiness. They're empty inside, but they look like a garden.

So it is with the management & lawmakers; they compete to appear "the greatest voice of reason" and "business-minded professional awesome big tough cool dude who did stuff and people like because he's a sweet talker". Mainly they just exploit the facade of money to pay others to sell their labors and get the hell out while they take the riches, credit, and spoils; they build empires off of nothing. No creativity, no innovation, no sense of justice: But they speak it well because at the end of the day they have $$$ to hire desperate makeup crews, hairdressers, editors, hit men ("military", assassins), the press, photographers, writers, and you're falling for it.

People think that you become rich & famous because you're talented and glorious, and it speaks for itself. Wrong! You become rich & famous because you belong to specific networks of greedy, unethical thieves who run the show; they run the networks, most mainstream media—and they want to pass laws to own all the airwaves which they've done a good job at doing already. They pick prostitutes ("sexy" dance stars who can be used as puppets) to keep the charade going; the public is unaware. But go back to ancient Rome and the origins of the theater, and you'll find that all actors, gladiators (wrestlers, badasses, tough guys), models, & dancers were prostitutes; this is still true today. 99%. They're empty vessels of outer distraction & amusement; it is their archetype as a drone in the species. They are hand-picked, they sign their souls away in contracts, are born into it, and buddy buddy with the whole charade because no man makes it anywhere in the media without a network connection & a contract. Everything is highly edited, censored, planned, and scripted. It's all a theatrical show

… What is money, and where did it begin? I imagine the origins had mostly to do with exchanging resources and exploiting gifted individuals, such as autistic men like Christ & DaVinci, myself—with disabilities. They get us to perform amazing tasks, then take it away from us, take the credit; some of the disabled, gifted men of brilliance, children, those who were weaker—may have been veeeeery handicap and they said. "See this piece of paper? This represents everything you've just done! I'll give you it if you do this for me." Then when they did it, said, "Nope! You had a bad attitude. I'm keeping this piece of paper as your punishment! I'll give you it back if you do something else for me." Then the facade continued. Eventually the exchange of services for illusory "sparkly things" like jewels & gold which are the dumbest ****ing things ever—caught on and other people were like. "Heeey! I want to play this game. All I have to do is dangle a piece of gold and someone will do something for me?" And so forth. Thus, flip on the television and look around; it is nothing but thieves, drugs (pharmaceuticals, refined foods, perfumes, fashions, make-up, sex allure, alcohol) and prostitutes (they call them "beautiful" "celebrities" & "models"): Those skilled at the art of deception, including enacting emotions.

Additionally, they probably just hoarded a bunch of pieces of gold and made the kids jealous of each other. The liars would toy with their emotions and give narcissistic smiles & favors to those "with more gold" to put them into competition with one another; then, they could control their children & evil adults with narcissistic envy & jealousy. "If you did this—you'd be loved just as much and have just as MUCH shiny things. Correct?" — "… Yea … I guess so. I'll do whatever you want. Just give me more gold. I don't want to be like those losers over there who barely have any."

Hate to burst your bubble, but forms of money/currency were being used wayyy before they even knew what mental conditions were. In fact, most currency was used to organize trade with other smaller communities/city-states.

In fact, the earliest forms of currency probably wasn't even paper or coins, but rather other valuable products such as manure, cattle, and agriculture (and eventually land, children, businesses, etc.) and people said "Hey, I have lots of manure, but nothing to use it on. Why don't I see what that guy has?"

Whenever you pay for something, you're essentially trading. Buy a bag of chips and pay a dollar. That's a trade. That's how money essentially started - people would give up their valuable things to get other valuable things that they wanted/needed.

It wasn't until people found more value in metals that coins came to existence. Coins were small, easily transportable, and easily divisible. It was easier to give three silver coins to a man instead of three pigs to him.

Who is to blame here - the money or the taunter? If you say money, then think of a different example. If the man was taunting disabled people with a piece of bread, saying "Do this for me and I'll give you this bread!" then who is to blame here? The piece of bread?

I should add, it's not even necessarily men who are incapable—but often lazy men; people think that capitalism is actually run by hard working men of success, but in fact it is entirely the opposite. Those who print money (which isn't even backed by gold anymore) and loan is out do so very selectively, of course. Nothing is fail proof, and there are not advanced systems in place to monitor this either; it is run by a group of people with agendas and they forgive & spike interest at will. But the money doesn't represent anything; it is literally a fabricated representation of reward, meaning that those who give it out and forgive debts have enslaved the entire world—and they are lazy, you can believe that. They are unethical. They don't have to work for money, not really; they have glorified every unethical behavior as "success" so long as you have money; in other words, the whole system is corrupt because true ethics come from hard working good, and talented, modest, honest people: Not people who sit at the heart of a fabricated representation of human labor printing off cheap ink in the form of stamps onto laughably cheap sheets of cloth.

Flattery is presented as "professionalism & good behavior"; seduction is pretended as "beauty & good marketing", exploitation is called "opportunity", greed is called "success", self-servingness is called "shrewd business" so long as you ACT otherwise, blatant lies are called "possibilities & political correctness", enslavement to cheap wages & long grueling hours for someone else is called "humble duty & subservience to your superiorities", 50 years of enslavement is called "an investment into your old age & a good man", blatant theft & fines are referred to as blunders & mistakes if you can buy your way out, racial supremacy is called a "traditional difference" if you belong to certain lineages or belief systems, protesting is called "ungraciousness & terrorism" if it doesn't suit the thieves' agendas, blatant rape is called frisky flirtation or earnest dating if you can use someone for resources long enough and demonize them later as "deserving to be punished with abandonment" (as if said predator was ever monogamous in the first place). The list goes on and on.

Literally, what you think is capitalism is the entire reversal of ethics—and working very hard to make a lot of money almost never happens. 99% of money is given in barely livable wages to the good people, and kept by the bad; then it is squandered away on flirty charming wicked individuals who play the victim all the time and use drugs, or given to churches by men who are milking ancient divinity, given to charities of individuals who exploit the suffering and claim they are "investing in research", given to lawyers who will take any case good or bad, celebrities, athletes, worthless consumables & vanity items, short-lived fashions, perfumes, etc. You're living in hell, and most of you don't even know it because you've been conditioned to believe that Shakira & Taylor Swift—and all your politicians—are "good men & women" so long as they claim it most of the time and have a fabricated entourage mimicking these claims to add a little extra "oomph" to the delusions. As long as they dress fancy and give big giant cheesy grins … Well, then they are obviously good people. Duh.

Which economic system is correct? I can tell you it isn't capitalism.

I'm not even responding to your post, because the quote you just responded to from me specifically says in there that most currency was either "exchanging resources" or exploitation. Where are you missing this point? You read the rest of my paragraph where I elaborated on the origins of exploitation—and I even clarified that exploitation was probably originally in the form of shiny things, not paper.

Oh, right, but you're bursting my bubble by copying every single point I made.

Money is an inanimate object; I'm unsure where your ability to comprehend abstract thought is coming in. Yes, I was advocating we all put money in a big pile somewhere and scream obscenities at it. Of course it's the individuals; it's the agendas and money itself as a faux representation of energy. It is a flawed concept by its very nature and forging abuse & exploitation

Graalism is the best. Suckers slave away for the benefit of one.
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Weird how Antago's responses are the best on this thread.
Damn you must spread

I disagree, because that is not always the case. An excellent contradictory example is Steve Jobs. All he cared about was his company, not his money. He wouldn't have even given a rat's ass about his money. In fact, he even sold his 1.5 million shares to save Apple Computers in 1997, after he lost all faith in the company, and they practically begged him to come back. He had ambition, which lives on in the company to this day, but not in those who now run it.

It's rare, but it does happen.

If that was your point then make it clearer next time please. You clearly said "where did money begin?" If your point was to explain when people began to exploit money to use it to taunt other people, you should have been clearer about that.


I'm not saying money is the best thing man has created, but it probably is one of the smartest (again, not saying money is a great thing with no flaws). Without money, what would determine order in society? What would decide who would be the first to receive a heart donor from a line of hundreds of people who need a new heart? Money is a flawed concept but it is also a smart one. As they say, money makes the world go round.

There are exceptions to the rule; but alas it feeds into the frenzy. I would also say that Steve Jobs was very questionable and has been accused of theft dozens of times; take a look at Edison who robbed Tesla. The theory of relativity? It was created 30 years before some man (hint hint) in the patent office came up with it. Conveniently, he was Jewish and all the Jewish magazines called him a physics superhero and made him out to be the greatest thing since Krishna butt-f*cked Christ riding a unicorn across a sea of milk & honey. Whatever it is, there are endless presentable "heroes" for us all to "aspire to"; Capitalism is all about selling you some bull**** you don't need, including itself.

This is disgusting—and what I can tell you is that a brotherhood of love & equality already exists inside of you, including intuition and miracles. Over 90% of the health problems in the world are specifically caused by affluenza, its detriments due to competitive stress, forced labor (instead of creating from joy & inspiration), cognitive dissonance and mental illness, suicide, depression, rivalry & accidents, crime induction from all the problems, madness, drugs (to which the ecstasy of Godly love is the only cure), pollution, toxins, war, etc. But, yes, you're right … Where would we be if some joe-shmo who for some reason happens to have millions of dollars (who knows how he got it) wasn't able to trump everyone else's self-worth by wielding an artificial lump of worthless crap.

Oh, there was no doubt Edison fits in your description of one who dwells in their own wealth and fame. Edison's most famous "invention", the light bulb, was stolen from Tesla, as well as countless others stolen by Edison and even his own financial backers, which proves the very gullible nature of the majority of people.

Aha, I also just remembered another contradictory example. Dean Kamen, inventor of the Segway, and founder of DEKA Research, also invented the Slingshot, a revolutionary water purification machine by evaporative distillation. I encourage anyone reading this to research this machine and its intentions.

This is what I come here for.

Take away all of the money from the world for one week and let me know how that goes.

Here's a scenario for you. Five people come to you and they all need a new heart or they'll die, but you only have one. They are all the same age and are all male. How do you determine who gets the heart? Just let them all die?

keep the heart for yourself

You will start by giving them the choice to sacrifice their own life for another.

If more than one patient remains, you start factoring in their worth. By that I do NOT mean the monetary worth of their combined assets. Assess their contribution to the world. Ask will this person be able to save other human lives if he/she is to receive the heart? Who will they leave behind? Do they have other life threatening condition asides from the obvious heart problem? How much of a burden will fall on their family if they are to pass away?

Our worth as a living being is not defined by how much we make. Giving the heart to the richest will not be the least damaging in every case.