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iHot 07-20-2014 08:23 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 491438)
the bush part was a joke :D:P

the difference between freedom fighter and terrorists was at the bottom of the video.:(


As far as the current events going on, I would guess that both sides have done f up things to one another. Ive never been to that part of the world and I dont know what really goes on. Also, we know the media is bs and they manipulate stories to their convenience, so I try to look at things from different points of view.



Im a Democratic Mexican from southern California, bush is not my homie.

Bush wants guys like you deported. I like you though so I don't want you deported :(

GOAT 07-20-2014 03:48 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 491461)
Bush wants guys like you deported. I like you though so I don't want you deported :(

theres a lot of fools that want my kind deported but theyre fooked, Im Amaricannn :)

Ghettoicedtea 07-20-2014 05:15 PM

so as we speak, the bodies of MH17 are on a refrigerated train going to an unknown destination
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-torez-ukraine

Ukraine says it can prove russia was behind this by suppling stuff
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/wo...aine.html?_r=1

and then Israel using the flechette cannisters in urban combat that makes no sense due to increased civilian deaths
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...shells-in-gaza

Ghettoicedtea 07-21-2014 07:45 PM

netherlands now opens a war crime investigation on mh17 shooting down
http://news.yahoo.com/netherlands-op...131650202.html

iHot 07-22-2014 09:46 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 491983)
netherlands now opens a war crime investigation on mh17 shooting down
http://news.yahoo.com/netherlands-op...131650202.html


Wonder why none of that has been happening to Israel...

lord greg 07-22-2014 04:25 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 492196)
Wonder why none of that has been happening to Israel...

Why no Western country is looking at war crimes there? Well it's partly because with that plane many Western people died and that directly affects the Western countries. With the Israel issue it is more indirect and most countries have now accepted that the Middle East should sort itself out because otherwise long protracted wars occur.

Ghettoicedtea 07-22-2014 06:24 PM

delta airlines cancels all flights going into israel
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2014-...l-aviv-airport

guns shots fired at Al Jazeers bureau in Gaza
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...829152765.html

MementoJoker 07-25-2014 03:43 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 492268)
guns shots fired at Al Jazeers bureau in Gaza
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...829152765.html

Good.

Toxic 07-25-2014 06:29 PM

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Posted by Meatman204 (Post 491094)
I seriously hope America doesn't become a dictatorship.

There's no way we will.

Viper 07-27-2014 10:51 PM

The United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, U.K., France and NATO are a gang of war criminals and terrorists that consistently harass, mass murder and genocide innocent sovereign nations and peoples for frivolous, made up and BS reasons. The War Crimes and death toll of civilians committed by these collective thug entities are starting to dwarf even that of WW2. I love the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the U.S., but the Government is illegitimate and does not follow them. At this point I feel the world would be better off if Russia, China and others teamed up and kicked their ass.

Colin 07-27-2014 10:52 PM

Viper, the whole world would end if that happened lmao

iHot 07-28-2014 03:06 PM

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Posted by Viper (Post 493988)
The United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, U.K., France and NATO are a gang of war criminals and terrorists that consistently harass, mass murder and genocide innocent sovereign nations and peoples for frivolous, made up and BS reasons. The War Crimes and death toll of civilians committed by these collective thug entities are starting to dwarf even that of WW2. I love the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the U.S., but the Government is illegitimate and does not follow them. At this point I feel the world would be better off if Russia, China and others teamed up and kicked their ass.


I agree. The people who really suffer will never get justice because of these corrupt governments.

lord greg 07-28-2014 04:54 PM

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Posted by Viper (Post 493988)
The United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, U.K., France and NATO are a gang of war criminals and terrorists that consistently harass, mass murder and genocide innocent sovereign nations and peoples for frivolous, made up and BS reasons. The War Crimes and death toll of civilians committed by these collective thug entities are starting to dwarf even that of WW2. I love the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the U.S., but the Government is illegitimate and does not follow them. At this point I feel the world would be better off if Russia, China and others teamed up and kicked their ass.

Are you trolling or something? You are saying that 2 of the countries that have terrible human rights records and are guilty of illegal expansionism should go to war with most of the world.

Viper 07-28-2014 07:22 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 494162)
Are you trolling or something? You are saying that 2 of the countries that have terrible human rights records and are guilty of illegal expansionism should go to war with most of the world.

No, but are you trolling or something?

I think you are actually backwards and instead talking about the U.S. and the other countries I listed as having terrible human rights records and illegal expansionism. I just don't see that with Russia or China since the 21st century. But it is obvious with the U.S. and it's war crime buddies.

What wars have Russia or China declared against anyone else since 1992? How many people have Russia or China murdered? What percentage of their population is imprisoned? Is their media, freedom of speech, privacy, economy or equality really any less than that in the United States? No, in fact I'd say they are now more free and better. Edward Snowden has even got asylum in Russia.

Also Russia, China, India Brazil and South Africa represent most of the world especially in terms of population. The U.S. only represents less than 5% the other fascists even less than that I find it hilarious that people still think the U.S. = "Most of the world" or that "Iraq did 9/11" and other provenly false BS like that.

Ignorance and falsehoods like this are why U.S. and France education systems make me sad...

lord greg 07-28-2014 07:35 PM

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Posted by Viper (Post 494215)
No, but are you trolling or something?

I think you are actually backwards and instead talking about the U.S. and the other countries I listed as having terrible human rights records and illegal expansionism. I just don't see that with Russia or China since the 21st century. But it is obvious with the U.S. and it's war crime buddies.

What wars have Russia or China declared against anyone else since 1992? How many people have Russia or China murdered? What percentage of their population is imprisoned? Is their media, freedom of speech, privacy, economy or equality really any less than that in the United States? No, in fact I'd say they are now more free and better. Edward Snowden has even got asylum in Russia.

Also Russia, China, India Brazil and South Africa represent most of the world especially in terms of population. The U.S. only represents less than 5% the other fascists even less than that I find it hilarious that people still think the U.S. = "Most of the world" or that "Iraq did 9/11" and other provenly false BS like that.

Ignorance and falsehoods like this are why U.S. and France education systems make me sad...

First off I believe that USA is pretty poor in terms of human rights at times, not as bad as Russia or China however. Look at the recent events in the Ukraine. Russia stole the Crimea under false pretences and are helping to destabilise the rest of the Ukraine. Also let us get one thing straight, US and Frances education systems have no influence on me at all so no idea why you brought them up.


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