The only problems i see with the aprs now are that the bullets are hard to see in a lot of aeras and that the tap fire is too fast for the hit timer. I normally tap fire my guns for accuracy and its been a problem, i think the tap fire speed should be equal with the autofire speed. And the streamer even when fenzied is still fair due to its awkward aiming, tends to leave more gaps than most guns. And thanks to whoever nerfed the aprs, pking is more enjoyable again. :)

Once again I am reminded why we are all forced by law to attend school until the age of 18.
Nice try Rotaruc...

oh you re read your own posts?

no you are just making a gun that is already OP and way too easy to use even easier to use. Unless the clip was nerfed to 12, then it would be justified.

Go play club penguin you whining illogical scrub. That's the only place where your comeback would offend anyone and no...not because I read my own posts, Its because people like you exist. You are against powerful guns altogether and cry because you cant handle them.

I'm done trying to make my point. Have fun being naive.

I meant lower the tap speed.

illogical? The only one who is being illogical is you. You have seen me base and whoop some serious ass at conquest before. You know that I can handle APRs before and after the nerf fine. So please stop using the same dumb argument that I can't handle the rippers. Also you can't give counter argument stating that this gun is not OP and why without me shooting you down.

Lowering the ROF means the gun shoots faster, increasing means making the gun shoot slower. The only place where this does not apply is when we are talking RPM

Ripper ain't even that OP. Just get ya skills up and quit complaining.

GIT's middle name is 'Complain'. All his posts are complaints. ALL his life is complaints.

Yup thats me

Tap fire isn't a property of guns, it is solely determined by the bullet frequency.

i noticed this too, apparently all non tap fire weapons ROF is above .31 or a 5 in the thousands place (.xx5)

so who knows, maybe making the guns ROF .205 will make the gun very fast and still outclass every gun but have not that horrid impossible to weave between shots. Then lowering the clip size to 14.

Serious discussion time, APR nerf, was it enough?
 

Well a .18 to .205 transition in for a ROF wouldn't necessarily be a big change since its .025 difference but in technical terms it would be slower then current used weapons such as green rifle

It makes a tad bit of a difference, its barly noteable but your gaps between shots are slightly larger thus making weaving a tad easier.

Don't be mad because of rippers. People worked hard to get it, just learn to overcome the rippers like others. You asked for a nerf, you got a nerf. Don't be complaining, or would you rather have no nerf at all?


I also agree that the bullets are a bit hard to see, but so is the blue rifle! I think the best way to counter this is to try to drag them out into an open area. Whenever i can't see them is when I am surronded by people. So dragging them out helps

The nerf wasn't enough though, we are still in square one: APRs are still significantly better than any gun and way too easy to use. I have no problems with guns that are chainsaws and tear people in half, i only got a problem with them if they are super easy to use like the rippers. I can come up with so many ways to nerf the gun and it still being a chainsaw gun.

also getting people out in the open is a terrible strategy for me at least since they can just infinite spam you with incredibly deadly bullets, so i just stay near cover and enclosed areas.