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Crono 07-24-2013 02:10 PM

itt ppl with no real guilds complaining

Winter 07-24-2013 04:07 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 391378)
The point of the GST is fun I believe, not to show loyality and/or respect or whatever you on, and most of people are thinking winning = fun.

Oh, and it's not about the "seven best players", it's about team-work, nub.

The guild system is really abused. The point of the GST was to pit guilds against each other to find the winner, and we are addressing the fact that most GST entries are groups of players quickly tossed together in an attempt to win, not actual guilds that act as a team all year-round. I think you may misunderstand. Are you saying the GST is not fun?

My "seven best players" statement hinted at the fact that dozens of GST entries are thrown together only for the GST. Statistically, they hardly know how to work with the team they are put in. A real guild stays together and doesn't jump into another "guild" for GST, and therefore has all year long to learn how to work as a team. This is the main reason for the winners of every GST winning.

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Posted by Crono (Post 391430)
itt ppl with no real guilds complaining

Truth...

GOAT 07-24-2013 08:16 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 391240)
point of the GST is to prove which guild is better at sparring, not to see what group of people can throw together a team at the last minute because they decided they like one of the GST hats or because they desperately need validation on Graal and want a statue that no one is going to care about

the point of the GST is whatever the individual person thinks it is. If there is a place where it specifies the point of the iClassic GST pls post the link.
last time I checked my gst team it said ‘VIEW TEAM” not view guild
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Posted by Winter (Post 391278)
I'd rather see 10 guilds enter the GST than 40 last-minute teams.

Holding an event for 70 people on a server that has over 2k players compared to 448? If guilds want to prove/show that they’re the best spar guild they can do it through the guild spar leader board. They can also hold their 10 guild spar tournament on their own. Well 8 or 16 cause 10 wouldn’t work.
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Posted by Winter (Post 391278)
Rufus' idea may be just what the server needs to completely revive the competitive guild system. That really adds to the fun of the game. Guild loyalty and competition is much more entertaining than seeing who can find the best group of 7 players every season.

Im all for guild loyalty and competition but this is not the way to do it. iClassic will have guild loyalty when people are restricted to 2 guilds so it affects all aspects of the game and not just the gst.
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Posted by Crono (Post 391430)
itt ppl with no real guilds complaining

Couple things
1. who’s complaining?
2. ill say a couple guilds I think are real guilds that compete in the gst and tell me if anyone here is associated with them.
Lanky and his takaii guys
Jerry Michael and their friends
Charm
Pinoy
Venture
These are some of the guilds that been together in the iClassic server before the gst showed up. These guys could actually say they gst for fun or guild pride and not for being tryhards.
3. people that cry about super spar teams are the ones complaining and not the ones saying this idea is bad
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Posted by Winter (Post 391461)
The guild system is really abused. The point of the GST was to pit guilds against each other to find the winner, and we are addressing the fact that most GST entries are groups of players quickly tossed together in an attempt to win, not actual guilds that act as a team all year-round. I think you may misunderstand. Are you saying the GST is not fun?

My "seven best players" statement hinted at the fact that dozens of GST entries are thrown together only for the GST. Statistically, they hardly know how to work with the team they are put in. A real guild stays together and doesn't jump into another "guild" for GST, and therefore has all year long to learn how to work as a team. This is the main reason for the winners of every GST winning.

If classic really wants this to be “guild oriented” they have to come up with a better solution. So im a give my solution. Instead of having a 7 member team, have the guild as a whole. When matches start people would get chosen randomly so everyone in the guild would have a chance to spar. I know its hard to do with 25 but they can set a minimum requirement of players needed (10). This would be a more realistically way of deciding the best spar guild. If you win a gst with 5 guys it doesn’t make you the best spar guild, just means you were able to recruit the best team for a guild spar.

Thallen 07-24-2013 09:02 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 391568)
last time I checked my gst team it said ‘VIEW TEAM” not view guild

whoooa, SICK logic bro

it is now illegal to park your car on a driveway because it is called a driveway
racecar spelled backwards is racecar
cockroach can live a week without its head
holy macaroni

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Posted by Crono (Post 391430)
itt ppl with no real guilds complaining

ya dude
same story, different thread

people who never spar complaining about sparrers
people with no guilds complaining about the Guild Spar Tournament structure

this community
pretty sure the administration is beyond their subhuman level of thinking so the right decision will be made in the end
that feel when you're an emotional and nervous guild-hopping pleb who will now have to commit to an actual team

Arann 07-24-2013 09:14 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 391568)
the point of the GST is whatever the individual person thinks it is. If there is a place where it specifies the point of the iClassic GST pls post the link.
last time I checked my gst team it said ‘VIEW TEAM” not view guild

Holding an event for 70 people on a server that has over 2k players compared to 448? If guilds want to prove/show that they’re the best spar guild they can do it through the guild spar leader board. They can also hold their 10 guild spar tournament on their own. Well 8 or 16 cause 10 wouldn’t work.

Im all for guild loyalty and competition but this is not the way to do it. iClassic will have guild loyalty when people are restricted to 2 guilds so it affects all aspects of the game and not just the gst.

Couple things
1. who’s complaining?
2. ill say a couple guilds I think are real guilds that compete in the gst and tell me if anyone here is associated with them.
Lanky and his takaii guys
Jerry Michael and their friends
Charm
Pinoy
Venture
These are some of the guilds that been together in the iClassic server before the gst showed up. These guys could actually say they gst for fun or guild pride and not for being tryhards.
3. people that cry about super spar teams are the ones complaining and not the ones saying this idea is bad

If classic really wants this to be “guild oriented” they have to come up with a better solution. So im a give my solution. Instead of having a 7 member team, have the guild as a whole. When matches start people would get chosen randomly so everyone in the guild would have a chance to spar. I know its hard to do with 25 but they can set a minimum requirement of players needed (10). This would be a more realistically way of deciding the best spar guild. If you win a gst with 5 guys it doesn’t make you the best spar guild, just means you were able to recruit the best team for a guild spar.

First of all, TL;DR.

Second of all:

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Posted by GOAT (Post 391568)
last time I checked my gst team it said ‘VIEW TEAM” not view guild

Last time I checked GST stood for Guild Spar Tourney, hence "GST", tryhard/10. Cya nerd.

Admiral 07-24-2013 09:57 PM

Guild Spar Tournament. Nuffsaid.

Ash Ketchum 07-24-2013 10:46 PM

Guild spar tournament

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Posted by Reece (Post 391602)
Guild Spar Tournament. Nuffsaid.

I second that!

Blueh 07-24-2013 10:57 PM

Guild Spar Tournament.

#Trending

Winter 07-25-2013 01:10 AM

sorry, tl;dr GOAT's post, i understand how someone can oppose the idea and i can't go against someone's opinion. i agree the idea is odd, but i would like to see the guild system revived. it has kind of been abused lately, and it hasn't been fun.

GOAT's last sentence was right on par, though.

Thallen 07-25-2013 01:12 AM

singles tournament pls

PumaD 07-25-2013 02:35 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 391676)
singles tournament pls

better server first plez

The only thing I dislike about this idea is that you can't do a last minute change likefor example my schedule changed one day before the GST starts, and all other people of my guild have a GST already. Who could replace me? And ya, the last minute teams mainly, too. This could be nice if the guilds weren't limited to 25 members, however I think everyone should decide for him/her/itself.

Ash Ketchum 07-25-2013 03:45 AM

BETTER SERVER STEFAN

twilit 07-25-2013 05:02 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 391414)
Potentially, but this and that are not entirely related.

I see. Hm well "potentially" is a hopeful word :)

GOAT 07-25-2013 05:51 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 391674)
sorry, tl;dr GOAT's post, i understand how someone can oppose the idea and i can't go against someone's opinion. i agree the idea is odd, but i would like to see the guild system revived. it has kind of been abused lately, and it hasn't been fun.
GOAT's last sentence was right on par, though.

When all these loser noobs tl;dr me its ok well cause theyre nobodies BUT when you do it, crushes my little heart. The one time I make a post where im not tryhard raging mode you TL;DR ;’(
And it was filled with wow moments
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Posted by Thallen (Post 391240)
point of the GST is to prove which guild is better at sparring, not to see what group of people can throw together a team at the least minute because they decided they like one of the GST hats or because they desperately need validation on Graal and want a statue that no one is going to care about

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Posted by Thallen (Post 391676)
singles tournament pls

Yes pls, old man needs to validate himself since hes the only “pro sparer” without a GST Belt
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Posted by Thallen (Post 391584)
whoooa, SICK logic bro

If youre to sta sta sta stooped to understand the logic just ask me nicely and I will explain it in thallens terms.
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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 391621)
Guild spar tournament
I second that!

Its on like donkey kong noob. Better start writing your will.

Ash Ketchum 07-25-2013 06:18 AM

COME THEN GOAT LETS GO IM GOING HAM


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