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Cigam 07-21-2013 12:36 AM

Nobody should commit suicide, if they are even thinking about doing so, they should see someone who can help, someone who understands.

5hift 07-21-2013 12:38 AM

If you commit suicide you won't go to heaven. There. Is that convincing enough?

Skill 07-21-2013 05:10 AM

I had suicide thoughts at that age as well. Never attempted it, and it always tended to happen when my parents took my electronics away. I haven't had such thoughts in a long time. I'm not sure if it's because I've grown more mature and can handle things easier, or if it's because I simply have done a better job using my online gaming addiction to channel my emotions.

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 389246)
This thread title was pretty misleading :/ I though you were gonna commit suicide... Are you?

Yeah I felt the same way, I was a bit worried for a second.

fsh 07-21-2013 06:06 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 388810)
No I do not think people have the right to kill themselves at all even if they want to, because they have an obligation to their loved ones. Killing yourself would basically ruin all your loved one's lives permanently. Its about being responsible and rationally thinking about the situation. If you want to kill yourself, you probably aren't rationally thinking about the situation and you probably need help.. Of course there are a few exceptions, as with anything.

what if there are no others that care about you, or love you

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Posted by Talon (Post 388851)
I never got why people would kill themselves.

So if you die, you obviously don't give a ****. Like, about anyone. 'cause if there is anyone who loves you, you don't give a **** about them, or hurting them, and if there's not, there's no one to give a **** about.

So instead of killing yourself why don't you just get the **** out? Leave the basement, leave your house, leave the mother ****ing country. Go on an adventure. Spend your time doing something awesome, like tracking down some terrorists. Go be James Bond. Go **** up a shark with a harpoon. Danger? **** that, you were going up against 100% death rate before, you're being safe now. **** everything, the world is your oyster.

Sometimes I wish I was suicidal. I'd pull the barrel out of my mouth and point it in the air, start a revolution, LIVE. Move to Barcelona or Rome or Berlin, hit the bars, band some chicks. STD's who ****ing gives a ****?

And then when I'm done, maybe I wouldn't want to kill myself, 'cause I've seen how beautiful the world really is...


thats not always why people get depressed..

kenthefruit 07-21-2013 06:21 AM

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 389720)
If you commit suicide you won't go to heaven. There. Is that convincing enough?

Let's leave religion out of this conversation.

Nyte* 07-21-2013 07:06 AM

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Posted by Talon (Post 388851)
I never got why people would kill themselves.

So if you die, you obviously don't give a ****. Like, about anyone. 'cause if there is anyone who loves you, you don't give a **** about them, or hurting them, and if there's not, there's no one to give a **** about.

So instead of killing yourself why don't you just get the **** out? Leave the basement, leave your house, leave the mother ****ing country. Go on an adventure. Spend your time doing something awesome, like tracking down some terrorists. Go be James Bond. Go **** up a shark with a harpoon. Danger? **** that, you were going up against 100% death rate before, you're being safe now. **** everything, the world is your oyster.

Sometimes I wish I was suicidal. I'd pull the barrel out of my mouth and point it in the air, start a revolution, LIVE. Move to Barcelona or Rome or Berlin, hit the bars, band some chicks. STD's who ****ing gives a ****?

And then when I'm done, maybe I wouldn't want to kill myself, 'cause I've seen how beautiful the world really is...

Although this may help, people who do it just don't have their heads in the right place and you have to understand that. They need help, it would be very unlikely for this to happen. I was close to someone that had a lot going for them, they ended up killing themselves, they never attempted for professional help.

JesterTheCat 07-21-2013 07:17 AM

I'm sorry but I have to comment on this thread. Lets face it, suicide is wrong. No matter what you rationalize, it's wrong. There are things in life to be great full for and when you kill yourself, you are thinking/saying that your life isn't good enough to live. Your choices effect you and when you choose to think of all the bad things in your life, you will get the bad to over take you. Instead sit up, look at who you are, IN A GOOD WAY, look at whose around you, and lastly, look at what you have. Thinking positive produces positive. The fact that you live everyday should be in the top 10 things to be great full for. Suicide never solves problems, it only creates more. Your death will only make a minor change in a few people, the rest of the world will move on. So instead of killing yourself and making people remember you for a few months, instead, don't kill yourself and go make a difference in people lives where it will last and live the life you were given.

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Posted by fsh (Post 389851)
what if there are no others that care about you, or love you




thats not always why people get depressed..

There is always someone who cares. Find em. Go look on eharmony.

MrSimons 07-21-2013 07:55 AM

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 389720)
If you commit suicide you won't go to heaven. There. Is that convincing enough?

I'm not religious, but to be honest I don't care in the least where I go after death. I'm not gonna turn this into a religious argument, but if your god is all knowing, he creates people knowing they will go to hell, not too great of a guy imo.

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 389196)
You do not understand. Its not about making others happy, its about caring about how your decisions impact others. Its about being responsible and thinking rationally. If you want to commit suicide you are not being responsible and you are probably not thinking rationally. Because of this, you need psychiatric help. You simply do not have the right to commit suicide because of the severe impacts, and doing it anyways is the most selfish and horrible thing you could ever possibly do to anyone.

Can't rationalize this but tbh, I don't give a **** how anyone feels about me dying. I'm not suicidal and I'm not crazy depressed, but if given the choice I wouldn't have second thoughts. More of an 'I don't care' sorta thing than anything.

Winter 07-21-2013 02:38 PM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 389004)
I don't think you understand depression and how it affects people.

This. Take it from me, these types of mental problems are the absolute worst, like a living hell. Although I take medicine, I've scarred myself with my thoughts to the point of falling asleep with tears soaking the pillow. And this isn't a one-time thing. I've wandered off during classes before just wondering what would happen after I'm gone, trying to decide what would be the best way to send the message to family and friends. Depression is like being locked in your own mind, blocking traffic both ways, and you forgetting where you last put the key.

I'm proud to say that lately I've been looking at the brighter side of things, and I really hope the rest of my life pans in that direction. If anyone ever has any type of issues, please feel free to contact me. I'm here for you. I hate to see people upset, and even if you think it may be embarrassing, I've talked to people for hours before. For all I know, I could have saved lives...

Suicide is a coward's way out of a fight, I'm sorry. Life is that fight. If you have never been in the position, you don't know how it feels. And you won't completely understand it unless you put yourself there.

I also wholeheartedly give my condolences to those who have known someone who have ever completely gone through with it. It really is the worst...

Emera 07-21-2013 03:44 PM

Apparently suicide is no longer a crime under modern US law? O.o
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Suicide
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Under modern U.S. law, suicide is no longer a crime. Some states, however, classify attempted suicide as a criminal act, but prosecutions are rare, especially when the offender is terminally ill.
Also, I'd like to give my 2 cents.

I've suffered from anxiety and depression for quite a while now, and I went through a stage where I genuinely considered taking my own life, and I can safely say that it's one of the most atrocious things I've had to go through in my entire life. Obviously, I didn't (hey I'm Emera, I'm still here ranting on Graalians) but I strongly feel that making suicide an offense by law is just ****ing ridiculous.

If somebody is that unhappy with their life, or are going through a stage of depression that's progressed to a point where they feel they can't handle it anymore, that they feel the only way out is to take their own life, I can't think of a worse course of action that prosecuting somebody for it. If anything, they need professional help, not a damn jail sentence. It amazes me that it used to be an offense.

GOAT 07-21-2013 04:44 PM

Holy crap all these suicidal thoughts maybe I shouldn’t be such a d1k.
And what’s the point of having laws against suicide? Once you kill yourself what’s the point in wasting public money to charge someone that’s dead while adding grievance to the family.
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Posted by 5hifter (Post 389720)
If you commit suicide you won't go to heaven. There. Is that convincing enough?

another thing that will happen is Santa Clause will put you in the naughty list
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Posted by Winter (Post 390018)
This. Take it from me, these types of mental problems are the absolute worst, like a living hell. Although I take medicine, I've scarred myself with my thoughts to the point of falling asleep with tears soaking the pillow. And this isn't a one-time thing. I've wandered off during classes before just wondering what would happen after I'm gone, trying to decide what would be the best way to send the message to family and friends. Depression is like being locked in your own mind, blocking traffic both ways, and you forgetting where you last put the key.

I'm proud to say that lately I've been looking at the brighter side of things, and I really hope the rest of my life pans in that direction. If anyone ever has any type of issues, please feel free to contact me. I'm here for you. I hate to see people upset, and even if you think it may be embarrassing, I've talked to people for hours before. For all I know, I could have saved lives...

Suicide is a coward's way out of a fight, I'm sorry. Life is that fight. If you have never been in the position, you don't know how it feels. And you won't completely understand it unless you put yourself there.

I also wholeheartedly give my condolences to those who have known someone who have ever completely gone through with it. It really is the worst...

I agree with everything except “suicide is a cowards way out”
Note: That’s what happens when you marry a noob babe. You need a prince charming like me and all your problems would go away

Era News 07-21-2013 09:56 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 390051)
Holy crap all these suicidal thoughts maybe I shouldn’t be such a d1k. And what’s the point of having laws against suicide? Once you kill yourself what’s the point in wasting public money to charge someone that’s dead while adding grievance to the family. another thing that will happen is Santa Clause will put you in the naughty list I agree with everything except “suicide is a cowards way out” Note: That’s what happens when you marry a noob babe. You need a prince charming like me and all your problems would go away

Ok mate since obviously didn't go to school and think its funny to make jokes about something as serious as this I'll explain it to you.

You don't get charged if you succeed, how can they put a dead man in jail? You will get put in the mental house if you fail your attempt so they can attempt to rehabilitate you to good mental health again.

iHot 07-22-2013 01:26 AM

Eh some girl in my school is always talking about this ****. She's uh kind of strange.

MattKan 07-22-2013 01:54 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 390255)
Eh some girl in my school is always talking about this ****. She's uh kind of strange.

If she's different than everybody else and so everybody is calling her "strange", this could be precisely why. I'm not trying to pin any blame on you or anything, but she could just need somebody to listen to her and care about her even though she's different than her peers.

Yukimaru Hyoken 07-22-2013 02:04 AM

It's kinda funny...in a twisted way...like my personality
 
What if you get the death sentence for attempting suicide? And if you want to throw away your life others shouldn't get in the way of that. They should just ensure that it's a clean kill and no one gets scarred.


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