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Shock 06-20-2013 05:24 AM

Basically, the KSG should have a functioning shield, not one that barely does its job... No matter what admin disagrees because that's what's happening.

What about this idea: Change the shield back to its release stats and try this. Instead of having stats based on a shield or no shield, the shield should only last for say... Five hits and then is "destroyed." Then, a few moments later it regenerates.

So, with a shield that takes damage til temporarily destroyed, you can keep the KSG at one stat set and not deviate from a single freeze. That sounds fair to me.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-20-2013 09:06 AM

The old shield was removed because you we're basically a walking, shooting bamboo block, unless you want the old block back but with only a 15% chance of blocking all damage

igotNoStyle 06-20-2013 10:43 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 372217)
The old shield was removed because you we're basically a walking, shooting bamboo block, unless you want the old block back but with only a 15% chance of blocking all damage

how about make the damage of KSG 5 per bullet at perfect then decrease the freeze when the shield is on.

In that way everyone is happy.

If that happen you can USE ksg in spar not only in basing.

The debate about KSG was been too long. Its time to end it and make it right

I mean common it cost 75k, look at the gun in the range of 75k. they are all powerfull except for KSG.
for example:
Sten vs KSG winner= Sten while sten only cost 65k at ksg at 75k

Shock 06-20-2013 12:17 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 372217)
The old shield was removed because you we're basically a walking, shooting bamboo block, unless you want the old block back but with only a 15% chance of blocking all damage

I'm saying that the percentage should be much larger, so it's a shield, not cardboard roulette. If it can be destroyed, with a timer between regenerations, that would make it fair.

Only thing you'd have to worry about is unequipping... Adding a timer behind that, so that unequipping quickly doesn't give you a fresh shield.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-20-2013 12:49 PM

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Posted by Shock (Post 372263)
I'm saying that the percentage should be much larger, so it's a shield, not cardboard roulette. If it can be destroyed, with a timer between regenerations, that would make it fair.

Only thing you'd have to worry about is unequipping... Adding a timer behind that, so that unequipping quickly doesn't give you a fresh shield.

But that just seems weird, it's not an energy shield from halo that breaks after a few shots and then regenerates, it's a riot shield and the reason it can't have a high percentage is because as I said then it will become a walking, shooting bamboo block.

Also at the other guy, making the Ksg 5 damage and reducing the freeze will not happen, when I was making the damage 4.5 I accidentally made it 5 and absolutely destroyed everyone whilst testing, and that was with the current freeze it has. As I already said you should be lucky you even have the shield, I'd have priced it 75k for what is it now without it, 9 damage, a high fire rate, 2 bullets, a freeze which really isn't that high and no bullet timer. I don't see why you're all complaining, I use the Ksg over my souizen and mp7 in both spars and bases because it is a good gun but like the neo rifle it takes skill to get used to it.

Instead of sitting here whining about how you all want a shield that blocks all damage 30% of the time, with a gun that has a fast fire rate and high damage just seems like you want an incredibly overpowered gun. I'm not saying it won't be changed at all, but if I was to change anything it would probably be the walking speed, shield equip freeze and a very slight adjustment to the firerate with shield equipped. And to me that seems like your getting a lot more for the price your paying for.

igotNoStyle 06-20-2013 03:24 PM

Well then Improve the fire rate of the KSG while equipped with shield. and at least lower the freeze while the shield is on.

Common aren't you tired of people complaining about this?
People will not complain this far if the gun is Right for its price.
And you can only see very few people use the KSG for the reason that it is easily overpowered by other gun that has less price than it.

romario786 06-20-2013 04:11 PM

Check the shield stat, as the shield does not block 30% of the damage, also lower the freeze rate when shield is equipped..

Ghettoicedtea 06-20-2013 04:13 PM

OH hey guyz i know how to fix this!!! DITCH THE RIOT SHIELD MAKE THE KSG ITS OWN GUN AND MAKE THE RIOT SHIELD ITS OWN MELEE.

that way riot shield can block 100% of bullets, no gun. The gun made the riot shield OP.

romario786 06-20-2013 04:16 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 372356)
OH hey guyz i know how to fix this!!! DITCH THE RIOT SHIELD MAKE THE KSG ITS OWN GUN AND MAKE THE RIOT SHIELD ITS OWN MELEE.

that way riot shield can block 100% of bullets, no gun. The gun made the riot shield OP.

I don't get it, everyone who owns a KSG are complaining on the lack of shield operations, why isn't anything is being done? The shield is not even in working mode at the moment as it does not block no damage whatsoever :/

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-20-2013 10:25 PM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 372360)
I don't get it, everyone who owns a KSG are complaining on the lack of shield operations, why isn't anything is being done? The shield is not even in working mode at the moment as it does not block no damage whatsoever :/

Can you please explain to me why it apparently doesn't "work" when I tested it 5minutes ago and it was working

bobo 06-20-2013 10:55 PM

yesterday I played around with it and still took full damage while the shield was equipped

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-20-2013 11:01 PM

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Posted by bobo (Post 372632)
yesterday I played around with it and still took full damage while the shield was equipped

Are you sure? I just tested again with a neo rifle that was rusty, his first bullet did 7 damage when my shield was unequipped, and the 2nd bullet did 4 damage when my shield was equipped

bobo 06-20-2013 11:39 PM

just tested and still took full damage

romario786 06-20-2013 11:44 PM

Iv just tested again as well it took full damage :/

BabyGhost 06-20-2013 11:46 PM

A bar shot me and I had my shield out. It was facing in the direction where the bullet was, and still took 10 damage.


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