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Richard 09-09-2012 10:52 AM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 195299)
OH MY GOD.
YOU PEOPLE ARE ****ING IGNORANT.
READ THE GODDAMN THREAD.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A PERFECT GUN RELEASE, EVERY TIME.
NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
THEY NEED TO MODIFY IT TO MAKE IT BALANCED.
SERIOUSLY.
yes, I mad

Uh, yeah it is perfectly possible. Take a look at your favorite first person shooters kiddo. Admittedly I haven't played a FPS since quake 3 but the weapons were perfectly balanced.

I chalk it up to massive disorganization, budget and lack of experience. Once you get out of middle school and past high school you start learning about these kind of things and strategies on howto prevent them. Shoot me a message when and if these ever occur!

NCJohn 09-09-2012 12:51 PM

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Posted by Richard (Post 195301)
Uh, yeah it is perfectly possible. Take a look at your favorite first person shooters kiddo. Admittedly I haven't played a FPS since quake 3 but the weapons were perfectly balanced.

I chalk it up to massive disorganization, budget and lack of experience. Once you get out of middle school and past high school you start learning about these kind of things and strategies on howto prevent them. Shoot me a message when and if these ever occur!

You're comparing a multi-platform FPS developed by paid professionals to a simple iPhone app ran and developed by volunteers....

Higbey 09-09-2012 04:07 PM

You don't need money to take the time to properly test everything. Simply making a rent a gun feature for new guns so players could pay for one short trial of using it, you could see if its over powered. The entire era weapon system is flawed and makes it harder to balance weapons anyway.

And dragon rider your analogies are horrible. It is humanly possible to test the weapons and figure out what's overpowered and fix it before releasing it. If you change a weapon all the buyers deserve a refund, as people bought gralat packs with real money and purchased the gun and the gun was nerfed I'd say this violates apples guidelines.

Dude1310 09-09-2012 04:11 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 195236)
I like the idea of random damage per bullet, based between 'half of default damage' and 'full damage' (for example, if the PBP was 9 damage per bullet, the random damage would be between '4' and '9' (rounding down silly billys))

you agree?

Oh yay! you like my idea, I'm a smart kiddie!

Shock 09-09-2012 06:10 PM

Snk, I'd like to front a gun testing project before you release guns. Invite random players to an off map spot and have a battle royale. I'm not saying you can't do it yourselves, but if you get a sample of the community to test the guns, who arent complete morons, then you can get an idea of strength VS price. Gun balancing won't go away if you don't test out the guns properly. I'm prepared to give feedback from the community in a low profile fashion.

ManBearPig 09-09-2012 06:49 PM

This is what happens when you dont pay much attention to gun details and focus more on candy land updates...

iEra should be more about guns,but then again who am i to tell you this.
Going a little off topic; please change the ACR gfx,use the one from pc,the current one ruined the whole ACR concept :\

iMask 09-09-2012 06:53 PM

Agreed with Shock

Dusty 09-09-2012 07:03 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 195299)
OH MY GOD.
YOU PEOPLE ARE ****ING IGNORANT.
READ THE GODDAMN THREAD.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A PERFECT GUN RELEASE, EVERY TIME.
NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
THEY NEED TO MODIFY IT TO MAKE IT BALANCED.
SERIOUSLY.
yes, I mad

The difference is that on Era you're paying money for a specific gun. It's not fair to release a gun and players pay for what it is, only to have it nerfed later. When guns stats change they should provide players with 24 hours to have a full refund.

It's comparable to buying an album and then a few weeks later they remove half of the songs you paid for with no refund.

Billy 09-09-2012 07:06 PM

That's their fault,that's what those a-holes get. No one got pbp until it was op,i used it when it was 8 damage.

BabyGhost 09-09-2012 07:10 PM

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Posted by Shock (Post 195415)
Snk, I'd like to front a gun testing project before you release guns. Invite random players to an off map spot and have a battle royale. I'm not saying you can't do it yourselves, but if you get a sample of the community to test the guns, who arent complete morons, then you can get an idea of strength VS price. Gun balancing won't go away if you don't test out the guns properly. I'm prepared to give feedback from the community in a low profile fashion.

Get some good sparrers to test them out as well. Good sparrers know how to use guns.

failure 09-09-2012 07:38 PM

how bout we buff the bar instead? xD

Sly 09-09-2012 07:55 PM

Hi SNK ^-^ I think that was a really good Idea changing the damage of the PBP.but the PBP is exactly like the m3 maybe make the PBP one dmg higher :)

Billy 09-09-2012 07:57 PM

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Posted by failure (Post 195474)
how bout we buff the bar instead? xD

BAR is already deadly against every gun besides PBP.

Ventus277 09-10-2012 12:20 AM

I like snakes original formula half each shot so it is easier to manage future shotguns, but if it is easier to add random damage to every shot gun for balancing go for it.

Shock 09-10-2012 01:11 AM

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Posted by BabyGhost (Post 195463)
Get some good sparrers to test them out as well. Good sparrers know how to use guns.

Agree. Anyway, I'm down with helping out if it'll help.


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