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highrise 07-25-2012 02:58 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 166997)
Guys guys guys, learn to read the thread.
The Lightsabre etc were glitched to begin with, the fact it shot bullets when a melee weapon hit it? You seriously thought that was intended? Sadly mistaken, I have to say.

If you got scammed, that's your own fault, don't play with fire and you wont get burnt.

So you mean that you release a weapon knowing it in the first place that it was glicthed..? Thats not a valid excuse.. And if it was glitched then maybe on the second day after you release the weapon you should have nerfed it... It takes many months before you realize that the weapon is glitched.. Then you nerfed it... Thats the problem in here.. You guys should test it out for glitch before releasing it...
I suggest you give us an option,, like we can refund a weapon after it was nerfed.. Or just return it to its orginal state... I mean seriously.. Its difficult to get that weapon.. Not everyone can have it thats why it is a rare weapon...and now it sucks.. You destroy the weapon.. Same thing happened to the ksg..

And by the way, it wasnt the players fault,, it was the admins fault of selling it knowing that it was glitched.. :\

romario786 07-25-2012 04:00 AM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 166925)
Awesome, now you are officially an idiot.
You were fighting to make the server has an even worse CPU usage.

B**** please! You don't Want me to start again like I did before in your thread, where you had to call your mommy (mods) to report the thread to your dad (snk), *cry cry cry* "daddy Romario is being bad to me please ban him* so STFU before I make you.

P.s: dont call people names yu ***hole, and if yu do expect somethig back yu dips**t

Also I agree with high rise its ludicrous to what admins do

Jester Lapse 07-25-2012 04:03 AM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 167237)
B**** please! You don't Want me to start again like I did before in your thread, where you had to call your mommy (mods) to report the thread to your dad (snk), *cry cry cry* "daddy Romario is being bad to me please ban him* so STFU before I make you.

P.s: dont call people names yu ***hole, and if yu do expect somethig back yu dips**t

Also I agree with high rise its ludicrous to what admins do

what.did.i.just.read

romario786 07-25-2012 04:04 AM

Sorry to make yu disappointed lool :D also sorry for off-topic :D

Johnaudi 07-25-2012 02:29 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 167239)
what.did.i.just.read

I don't get his point lmao

SnakeRekon 07-25-2012 08:16 PM

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Posted by highrise (Post 167226)
So you mean that you release a weapon knowing it in the first place that it was glicthed..? Thats not a valid excuse.. And if it was glitched then maybe on the second day after you release the weapon you should have nerfed it... It takes many months before you realize that the weapon is glitched.. Then you nerfed it... Thats the problem in here.. You guys should test it out for glitch before releasing it...
I suggest you give us an option,, like we can refund a weapon after it was nerfed.. Or just return it to its orginal state... I mean seriously.. Its difficult to get that weapon.. Not everyone can have it thats why it is a rare weapon...and now it sucks.. You destroy the weapon.. Same thing happened to the ksg..

And by the way, it wasnt the players fault,, it was the admins fault of selling it knowing that it was glitched.. :\

Ah, i'm sorry it takes us so long to know a weapon is glitched, because ye'know, players like to abuse glitches rather than reporting them, thus making our job much much harder. Clearly you think we're psychic.

We didn't actually nerf it really, the system was changed to avoid a certain gang crashing the entire server, feel free to cry about the lightsaber, which you probably don't even have being changed to avoid the ENTIRE server going down, in which you'd of cried even harder when it did.

KSG works fine, get over it. Games ALWAYS need rebalancing. It's how they work.

FaZ3 07-25-2012 09:07 PM

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Posted by stetson (Post 166916)
seriously, i spend 10 euros on a fkin melee wich i lost in scam the same day..... so thx to hae stolen 10 euros

I completely agree with you. iEra should be more professional. They are tricking kids into wasting hordes of money on items. Kids don't think about how much money they are actually spending. Then they get exited when someone asks them if they want to trade for maybe something better, then they get scammed and lose they're precious item witch probably cost them $20+ usd in grallat packs. Its pretty much theft if you think about it..

Talon 07-25-2012 10:10 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 166976)
you called him an idiot. Does that make you one too? :o

OH SHI-

romario786 07-25-2012 10:13 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 167396)
I don't get his point lmao

Rofl! Go seek support from others to back yu up yu lil p***** lool, I'm sure yu got this point :D if not ask him again ;)

Zero02 07-25-2012 10:28 PM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 167537)
Rofl! Go seek support from others to back yu up yu lil p***** lool, I'm sure yu got this point :D if not ask him again ;)

I have no idea what you just said

SnakeRekon 07-26-2012 12:11 AM

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Posted by *FaZ3 (Post 167508)
I completely agree with you. iEra should be more professional. They are tricking kids into wasting hordes of money on items. Kids don't think about how much money they are actually spending. Then they get exited when someone asks them if they want to trade for maybe something better, then they get scammed and lose they're precious item witch probably cost them $20+ usd in grallat packs. Its pretty much theft if you think about it..

There are so many warnings about scamming, there is no sympathy to those who fall into the traps of being scammed. We're not tricking anybody, everything is optional, end of the day the game is here to turn a profit, it's what businesses are there for. You can either wait and earn the money to buy the items, or you can be impatient and rush. It's all the consumers choice.

I could understand if we made you buy a special currency with your IRL money which you could spend on items, but it isn't, it is just regular in game money.

DragonRider 07-26-2012 12:48 AM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 165602)
Thn what site point of having light saber and umbrella if they can't do that? Coz of that reason the 2 items counted as super rares and made everyone try to get it, now that's been nerfed nothing much special about them anymore :/ it's just another bamboo rod which deflects :/

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Posted by Billy (Post 165759)
What the hell! I'm tired of this ****! Everywhere I look..People spend like goddamn $50 in game and they get tricked into thinking it's so awesome and bam it's nerfed. You guys may say "Scamming is legal!!!111" But not this kinda scamming,this is bull****,kids spending so much money on this game then they basically end up fooled in the end. Stop this iEra,at least make up your goddamn mind when making an item,seriously unprofessional..

I'm hella glad I didn't trade my friend,he was going to give umbrella and then I was going to give him my BAR on PC era. Thanks for making this thread.

Either you're hacked or you're becoming a ******. Either way, sorry.
OT: That's called balancing. If the weapon isn't balanced, it becomes too overpowered. And that's what the lightsaber/umbrella was. It was too OP and many people had it. Now let's say something like the souzien, maybe 1 in 200 people have it, so it's rare. The lightsaber/umbrella cannot be counted as rare because so many people have it and people can abuse it.

Johnaudi 07-26-2012 05:45 AM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 167537)
Rofl! Go seek support from others to back yu up yu lil p***** lool, I'm sure yu got this point :D if not ask him again ;)

Learn 2 Speak

Billy 07-26-2012 12:22 PM

Bitch smd,Lol anyways those melees weren't op,I could beat them easy ..shoot and move,if it were with a melee basically the same concept,and just because I'm not a nerd doesn't mean I'm a ******. Even though I have no clue what butthurt means..

DragonRider 07-26-2012 12:26 PM

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Posted by Billy (Post 167884)
Bitch smd,Lol anyways those melees weren't op,I could beat them easy ..shoot and move,if it were with a melee basically the same concept,and just because I'm not a nerd doesn't mean I'm a ******. Even though I have no clue what butthurt means..

Going straight to ad hominem eh? I expected better of you.

Billy 07-26-2012 12:45 PM

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Posted by DragonRider

Going straight to ad hominem eh? I expected better of you.

:| Sorry mom..

failure 07-28-2012 04:08 PM

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Posted by Waffle (Post 165626)
It would make more sense if the Lightsaber would be given the ability to block melee attacks considering it costs 100 EC compared to the umbrella which can always be traded or won in a auction.

Don't make me work for a saber waffle >:(

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 166263)
You guys can thank the people who almost crashed the server for this happening to the weapons. Kthx /thread

Though; it's probably just a glitch for now that melees don't block ~ possibly

Who would do that to the server?

And it was through the use of explosives, not melees soooo...

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 167479)
Ah, i'm sorry it takes us so long to know a weapon is glitched, because ye'know, players like to abuse glitches rather than reporting them, thus making our job much much harder. Clearly you think we're psychic.

We didn't actually nerf it really, the system was changed to avoid a certain gang crashing the entire server, feel free to cry about the lightsaber, which you probably don't even have being changed to avoid the ENTIRE server going down, in which you'd of cried even harder when it did.

KSG works fine, get over it. Games ALWAYS need rebalancing. It's how they work.

WHAT WAS THE CERTAIN GANG? ;)

Paul Frank. 07-28-2012 04:23 PM

This is bull****. Why buy a Lightsaber if it's the same as an umbrella.

Njc2823 07-28-2012 06:07 PM

<3 french fries

lord greg 07-28-2012 06:24 PM

first of all everyone saying it should be put back is being stupid cuz then the servers crash and game fails and everyone loses everything cuz of people moaning.
second the people moaning about kids wasting money and not knowing what they are spending... well surely they should be smart enough to know that if they play the game. if not they must be morons

SnakeRekon 07-29-2012 06:55 PM

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Posted by Paul Frank. (Post 168970)
This is bull****. Why buy a Lightsaber if it's the same as an umbrella.

Because one can be attained through hard work, the other luck.

Xaldin 07-29-2012 06:57 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 169627)
Because one can be attained through hard work, the other luck.

Very true

poorface 07-29-2012 07:01 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 169627)
Because one can be attained through hard work, the other luck.

And this is why I think the saber should be better, considering the new HW dagger has the same damage and speed, while the umbrella has the same blocking and reflecting ability. Having both of these droppable, scam-able items defeats the purpose of getting 100 event coins.

SnakeRekon 07-29-2012 07:34 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 169630)
And this is why I think the saber should be better, considering the new HW dagger has the same damage and speed, while the umbrella has the same blocking and reflecting ability. Having both of these droppable, scam-able items defeats the purpose of getting 100 event coins.

Personally; i'm not really a fan of teh droppable items either or the weird melee weapons being better than 100 ec items.

Johnaudi 07-29-2012 07:41 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 169630)
And this is why I think the saber should be better, considering the new HW dagger has the same damage and speed, while the umbrella has the same blocking and reflecting ability. Having both of these droppable, scam-able items defeats the purpose of getting 100 event coins.

So you want the umbrella to be un-droppable? I'd also add Taser to it.

lord greg 07-29-2012 07:49 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 169630)
And this is why I think the saber should be better, considering the new HW dagger has the same damage and speed, while the umbrella has the same blocking and reflecting ability. Having both of these droppable, scam-able items defeats the purpose of getting 100 event coins.

very true

poorface 07-29-2012 08:07 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 169657)
So you want the umbrella to be un-droppable? I'd also add Taser to it.

That could work, but what I really want is for it to get nerfed a bit, so that the lightsaber would be somewhat better, considering all the work that it takes to get one.

Paul Frank. 07-29-2012 09:05 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 169627)
Because one can be attained through hard work, the other luck.

Then there should be a difference between both..

Yogy* 07-29-2012 11:42 PM

i think u guys juts jelly of saber owners coz can never get it and say it was unfair -.- it wasnt unfair lol u still could use bombs cannons or just dodge from it now honestly i hate my saber. and by the way it should at least block from melees...at least block >_>

Santa Claus 07-29-2012 11:47 PM

How about you all wait a week to buy the weapons so they aren't fixed and you won't lose your gratals. I always wait to buy something on there since some guns/melee are reduce in stats.

lord greg 07-30-2012 05:48 PM

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 169860)
How about you all wait a week to buy the weapons so they aren't fixed and you won't lose your gratals. I always wait to buy something on there since some guns/melee are reduce in stats.

sometimes they are changed after a week so that makes the point invalid

Santa Claus 07-30-2012 05:51 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 170483)
sometimes they are changed after a week so that makes the point invalid

That is true. Maybe just don't buy more guns? really you don't need every gun on the game. Mainly but holiday weapons they are rare.

lord greg 07-30-2012 05:53 PM

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 170484)
That is true. Maybe just don't buy more guns? really you don't need every gun on the game. Mainly but holiday weapons they are rare.

yea but when a new overpowered gun comes out and people buy it you need to have a gun that can compete with the new one

Santa Claus 07-30-2012 06:22 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 170489)
yea but when a new overpowered gun comes out and people buy it you need to have a gun that can compete with the new one

or learn how to defect the guy with the gun you have?
I mainly use the m4 and melee.

I understand everyone wants the best guns but if you dont know how to handle the best gun it won't be the best at the end of the day.

Talon 07-30-2012 06:54 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 170489)
yea but when a new overpowered gun comes out and people buy it you need to have a gun that can compete with the new one

Or you could just get one top-tier gun, get used to it, and wreck everyone with that. Please give me the name of an overpowered gun that has been released recently.

Berries 07-31-2012 12:00 AM

But then what if a NEW top tier comes out?

Anyways it should just be PC era. All items droppable. No more scams because you can't call it that when everything is the same. I mean think about it. If someone's gun is droppable, I think they would realize they shouldn't drop it for no reason.

Yes people will still try to trick them into dropping it, but it will add one more thing for people to think about before doing it. "Do I REALLY want to drop something I spent 100-200k?"

However, in order for that system to work, shops would need to be stocked like PC era, which due to our player count, will never happen. But it would make it easier for friends to give newer players extra items like pitchforks or candy canes. And if you could give old guns you don't want, it'd make your inventory less cluttered. But it's still not going to happen.

Did this have to do with topic? 37%

DragonRider 07-31-2012 12:11 AM

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Posted by Berries (Post 170732)
But then what if a NEW top tier comes out?

Anyways it should just be PC era. All items droppable. No more scams because you can't call it that when everything is the same. I mean think about it. If someone's gun is droppable, I think they would realize they shouldn't drop it for no reason.

Yes people will still try to trick them into dropping it, but it will add one more thing for people to think about before doing it. "Do I REALLY want to drop something I spent 100-200k?"

However, in order for that system to work, shops would need to be stocked like PC era, which due to our player count, will never happen. But it would make it easier for friends to give newer players extra items like pitchforks or candy canes. And if you could give old guns you don't want, it'd make your inventory less cluttered. But it's still not going to happen.

Did this have to do with topic? 37%

The first sentence of this argument is invalid. This isn't PC Era, snk is trying to differentiate and become a standalone. If he wanted to imitate PC Era, he would've made it very similar long ago.

Berries 07-31-2012 12:13 AM

Yes but until we become PC era, we still have complainers to deal with. Pc is more pro. Either deal, or leave.

DragonRider 07-31-2012 12:45 AM

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Posted by Berries (Post 170741)
Yes but until we become PC era, we still have complainers to deal with. Pc is more pro. Either deal, or leave.

We would have even more complaints because iEra is occupied mostly by 12- kids.

iPulse* 07-31-2012 01:02 AM

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Posted by Berries (Post 170741)
Yes but until we become PC era, we still have complainers to deal with. Pc is more pro. Either deal, or leave.

Why would we want to become Pc Era?iEras a totally different game.

Berries 07-31-2012 01:52 AM

I just like when someone goes onto PC and says "IM FRUM IERA GAIS :DDD" and expect to be treated like a celebrity. It's funny what actually happens.

Mostly I'm just sick of people who get big heads because they're "pro" at a game on a device people put in their pocket. Like, oh, sorry mr. Badass. Didn't notice your 30000 spar wins there.

SnakeRekon 08-01-2012 04:08 PM

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Posted by Berries (Post 170732)
But then what if a NEW top tier comes out?

Anyways it should just be PC era. All items droppable. No more scams because you can't call it that when everything is the same. I mean think about it. If someone's gun is droppable, I think they would realize they shouldn't drop it for no reason.

Yes people will still try to trick them into dropping it, but it will add one more thing for people to think about before doing it. "Do I REALLY want to drop something I spent 100-200k?"

However, in order for that system to work, shops would need to be stocked like PC era, which due to our player count, will never happen. But it would make it easier for friends to give newer players extra items like pitchforks or candy canes. And if you could give old guns you don't want, it'd make your inventory less cluttered. But it's still not going to happen.

Did this have to do with topic? 37%

Berries, you're so foolish. You have no idea how many times Era PC has reset do you because of it's ****ty economy.

Era PC: The rich get richer, the poor and get poorer.
As an Iphone game, Era Iphone can not afford to let it's economy be destroyed because fixing it is a nightmare without lots of complaints.

eric 08-01-2012 04:11 PM

SABER AND UMBRELLA ARENT NERFED

SnakeRekon 08-01-2012 06:45 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 171929)
SABER AND UMBRELLA ARENT NERFED

True story. Who cares about melee not being blocked really? lol, other than you being able to sit there without taking damage, they were eventually going to hit you :3 seems trivial to me

poorface 08-01-2012 11:43 PM

Well, nothing's gonna be done and I don't know how to close a thread, so please. Just let this thread die peacefully.

Johnaudi 08-02-2012 01:24 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 171974)
True story. Who cares about melee not being blocked really? lol, other than you being able to sit there without taking damage, they were eventually going to hit you :3 seems trivial to me

Same as bamboo :( finally someone understands!

lord greg 08-02-2012 03:23 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 170527)
Or you could just get one top-tier gun, get used to it, and wreck everyone with that. Please give me the name of an overpowered gun that has been released recently.

recently nothing but when bar shipka and pbp and ksg came out you needed a good gun to defeat them. maybe less with the ksg but it was still good

poorface 08-04-2012 07:42 PM

Nvm don't let it die. They nerfed the lightsaber again. We can't change directions while blocking now >_>

Talon 08-04-2012 07:51 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 172620)
recently nothing but when bar shipka and pbp and ksg came out you needed a good gun to defeat them. maybe less with the ksg but it was still good

Get used to the Shipka, get good with the Shipka. BAR is released. Defeat them with your Shipka skills. PBP is released. Defeat them with your Shipka skills. KSG is released. You don't even have to try to defeat them with your Shipka skills because no one knows how to use it but continues to complain about it anyway.

The point I'm getting at, is if you get good with a good gun, you won't need any more guns to compete with newer ones.

SnakeRekon 08-04-2012 09:53 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 174057)
Nvm don't let it die. They nerfed the lightsaber again. We can't change directions while blocking now >_>

We didn't nerf anything.
Movement system is ****ed.


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