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Pariah Kurza 09-04-2018 01:17 AM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 817781)
Pariah might also need to do that, last I checked.

Oh dear, Thanks for reminding me.
It should be fixed now.
As for the audio the reason it was not posted was due to "It" Being from the youtube library. I made sure to find something that would not go against copyright terms therefore not causing any issues.

GOAT 09-04-2018 04:34 PM

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Posted by Pariah Kurza (Post 817717)

Took me 5-6 hours.
Wish i had more time.
Good luck to all the entries!

This one has my vote atm. Only bad thing I have to say is ewww olwest

Ariona13 09-05-2018 11:22 PM

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Posted by Pokki (Post 817328)
hype is going to snatch that 1st place wig



No


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Posted by XBanished (Post 817634)
Here is my video submission!



Hope you Enjoy!



Your voice is so boring no offense


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Cody No1 09-05-2018 11:23 PM

Spod is a god at edits

Saeed 09-05-2018 11:26 PM

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Posted by Ariona13 (Post 817950)
No


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Your voice is so boring no offense


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If you and Ayah help Hype make the video then it might actually place.


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Ariona your voice is squeaky what are u talking about..


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Ariona13 09-05-2018 11:27 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 817952)
If you and Ayah help Hype make the video then it might actually place.

Ariona your voice is squeaky what are u talking about..



At least people can understand what I say


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Convict 09-06-2018 12:19 AM

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Posted by Theos (Post 817767)

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 817769)
u have my vote

Same here! Give this man his 200 dollars already, don't keep him waiting...
/closethread

Zetectic 09-06-2018 01:12 AM

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Posted by Ariona13 (Post 817950)
Your voice is so boring no offense

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I wouldn't be surprised if half of us entries misunderstood this whole thing to some degree. Though I don't think Jarace made any mistakes stating on OP.
1. He encouraged us to non copyright musics or voice, letting me to think that we shouldn't use musics outside of graal/royalty free ones.
2. He said use the work of our own, also made me thought it has to be like graal footage only, no other clips involved.
3. attract us to play the game = what make us qualifying, im guessing? or what unix/jarace wants.

so why I mentioned these 3 is that, I originally thought of making a meme video. I wanted to make "Types of Role Players on Graal": Military, Baby Adoption, Dating Marriage, Types of PKer or Sparrer etc. but it's really hard without any meme clips overlapping above and make fun of everyone..

that seems like why people who submitted early did a very "formal" job at introducing the game, rather than make everyone laugh to death like spods.
but i guess either way spod wouldve nuked us with that video lmao. he did very good job with editing. /ripperoni

Eugeen 09-06-2018 01:31 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 817964)
I wouldn't be surprised if half of us entries misunderstood this whole thing to some degree. Though I don't think Jarace made any mistakes stating on OP.
1. He encouraged us to non copyright musics or voice, letting me to think that we shouldn't use musics outside of graal/royalty free ones.
2. He said use the work of our own, also made me thought it has to be like graal footage only, no other clips involved.
3. attract us to play the game = what make us qualifying, im guessing? or what unix/jarace wants.

so why I mentioned these 3 is that, I originally thought of making a meme video. I wanted to make "Types of Role Players on Graal": Military, Baby Adoption, Dating Marriage, Types of PKer or Sparrer etc. But it was really hard without any meme clips overlapping above and make fun of everyone..

that seems like why people who submitted early did a very "formal" job at introducing the game, rather than make everyone laugh to death like spods.

Well they mentioned that footage may be used for promoting the game and specifically tell us to not use any copyrighted material.
Altho Spods video was funny it does break the rules so can’t be accepted as an actual entry

XBanished 09-06-2018 01:43 AM

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Posted by Ariona13 (Post 817950)
Your voice is so boring no offense


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None taken, either my voice is boring or it's annoying. That was the biggest problem.. I don't have a good advertising voice, I personally hate my voice!

Jarace 09-06-2018 02:29 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 817964)
I wouldn't be surprised if half of us entries misunderstood this whole thing to some degree. Though I don't think Jarace made any mistakes stating on OP.
1. He encouraged us to non copyright musics or voice, letting me to think that we shouldn't use musics outside of graal/royalty free ones.
2. He said use the work of our own, also made me thought it has to be like graal footage only, no other clips involved.
3. attract us to play the game = what make us qualifying, im guessing? or what unix/jarace wants.

so why I mentioned these 3 is that, I originally thought of making a meme video. I wanted to make "Types of Role Players on Graal": Military, Baby Adoption, Dating Marriage, Types of PKer or Sparrer etc. but it's really hard without any meme clips overlapping above and make fun of everyone..

that seems like why people who submitted early did a very "formal" job at introducing the game, rather than make everyone laugh to death like spods.
but i guess either way spod wouldve nuked us with that video lmao. he did very good job with editing. /ripperoni

1) - The music you own/royalty-free music rule was just in case Unixmad wanted to use the videos in official promotion.

2) - That was mostly because I didn't want anyone stealing videos/content from others. One of the FAQ questions should clear up this misunderstanding. (It doesn't have to be all in-game footage. Had a few people ask me about making animations for it, and I think that is fine so long as it accomplishes what the theme of this contest requests).

3) - Yeah, trailers fulfill the aforementioned theme of this contest. I've mentioned it a few times: Show off your favorite activity/activites on Graal Online. Ideally, this should show off what is fun about the game and attract new players.

While organizing the contest, it crossed my mind that Unixmad and the GraalOnline administration would prefer more serious videos, whereas the community might prefer less serious videos or videos more oriented towards entertainment. I think both can effectively accomplish the contest's theme, so that's why the contest is somewhat open ended. I didn't want to stifle anyone's creativity.

If spods video has copyrighted music, that will need to be changed for it to be allowed in the contest.

JakeTricky 09-06-2018 04:49 AM

Can i get a free ncs music? and i will just put the link in the description

Zetectic 09-06-2018 04:55 AM

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Posted by JakeTricky (Post 817979)
Can i get a free ncs music? and i will just put the link in the description

nope, don't trust ncs. had used them for my Youtube videos, most of them got copyright claims now. their contracts ****, artists can just break it up and claim their music copyright and steal money from other video creators who have used them.. or something like this, i don't know the details, but all I can tell you is, they'll be copyrighted within couple years.

and what does ncs do? remove the video and act like that video never existed.. **** them. I think there's a video about calling them out.

Jarace 09-06-2018 05:10 AM

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Posted by JakeTricky (Post 817979)
Can i get a free ncs music? and i will just put the link in the description

If you use a different song, check it here and make sure it is free to use in videos.

You might want to consider Zetectic's cautionary tale, however.

Tensor 09-07-2018 03:20 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 817763)
I went "Classic" mode. I downloaded bunch of favorite, memorable moments on Graal and put them together in one minute video. I think Classic has a lot to offer and this video isn't even spoiling any newer contents that new users would have to experience on Graal. Clips are purely based on my own memories that I've had from Graal in the past, time to pass it to the next generation.


A bit of disappointment, I downloaded bunch of apps that would do "cool" effect on my clips, but ZERO idea how to get my clips from PC to iPhones. So that idea went wasted for me, if you could, please do try. They might make it a little more 'fancier'.

Best video.

haruka 09-10-2018 05:08 AM



Notes:
- tried to keep it pg-13 but post-production got derailed quite a bit and we ended up adding a few things that might undermine the forum rules.. lmk if you want the profanity bleeped

- post-production took about 11 hours total split within 6 days

- had a sore throat during a few voice recording sessions, mind the discrepancies in volume, tone, intonation, etc

- I've only put the graal classic links in my description since the others are largely irrelevant to me

Puddles 09-10-2018 06:03 AM

Here's my submission for the promotion category, I spent a huge amount of hours editing it over a couple weeks in my spare time, so I hope my production value goes far.


Jarace 09-10-2018 06:17 AM

Two more great submissions. Nice job!

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Posted by haruka (Post 818123)
- tried to keep it pg-13 but post-production got derailed quite a bit and we ended up adding a few things that might undermine the forum rules.. lmk if you want the profanity bleeped

Yes, I think it would be better to censor the profanity given this forum rule:

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Posted by Graalians (Post 794209)
The use of profanity and sexually explicit language is not permitted as these forums cater to all ages.

It would also be best to add the other links to the description, just to be safe.

NoxPower 09-10-2018 06:39 AM

[QUOTE=haruka;818123]

honestly, this one, is super good. really good production quality, smooth transitions. all around perfection. are the sounds you used royalty free? because i wouldn't want work like this to go to waste because of copyright.

Zetectic 09-10-2018 02:41 PM

There we go. Good ones finally show up +repped
Btw puddles i won the biggest rps tournament in 2016/2017. U should’ve invited me!

GOAT 09-10-2018 04:39 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 818136)
There we go. Good ones finally show up +repped
Btw puddles i won the biggest rps tournament in 2016/2017. U should’ve invited me!

Rps tournaments were more competitive in 2010. You guys would of been destroyed in my days.
hehe

haruka 09-10-2018 08:43 PM

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Posted by NoxPower (Post 818127)
honestly, this one, is super good. really good production quality, smooth transitions. all around perfection. are the sounds you used royalty free? because i wouldn't want work like this to go to waste because of copyright.

most of the sound effects I used are generic royalty free jingles

1. Jarace's OP explicitly mentioned:
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Posted by Jarace (Post 817312)
•Stick to the game soundtrack, music you made, or royalty-free music.

iirc this clause was implemented in case unixmad wants to use the video for promotional purposes? the assumption here is that this rule extends to sound effects even though it wasn't stated but some clarification would be nice

assuming that sound effects are also included, is every little intricacy going to be evaluated with a fine tooth comb for copyright infringement? I'd like to know how much I can get away with here when it comes down to my submission and its eligibility

Chuli Skotos 09-10-2018 08:55 PM

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Posted by Puddles (Post 818125)
Here's my submission, I spent a huge amount of hours editing it over a couple weeks in my spare time, so I hope my production value goes far.




Thats me in the thumbnail! :blush:


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Jarace 09-10-2018 09:12 PM

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Posted by haruka (Post 818143)
most of the sound effects I used are generic royalty free jingles

1. Jarace's OP explicitly mentioned:

iirc this clause was implemented in case unixmad wants to use the video for promotional purposes? the assumption here is that this rule extends to sound effects even though it wasn't stated but some clarification would be nice

assuming that sound effects are also included, is every little intricacy going to be evaluated with a fine tooth comb for copyright infringement? I'd like to know how much I can get away with here when it comes down to my submission and its eligibility

This is something I should have thought of initially, and I'm sorry for not including that. Yes, you should steer clear of copyrighted sound effects as well in order to be considered for the prize. If unixmad can't use it in promotion on the basis of copyright, it won't qualify for the prize. As a result, yes, videos will be looked at intricately for copyright concerns.

That said, my recommendation is to not delete this version of the video or the project file for it if you think the copyrighted sound effects make the video much more effective. Same goes for Theos's video, just in case he is reading. More on why that is the case soon. You'll still need to remove copyrighted stuff to qualify as one of the best promotional videos, that won't change.

KristenGW 09-11-2018 12:22 AM

Video contest? More like a way to see how people pronounce "Graal"...

Saeed 09-11-2018 12:34 AM

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Posted by KristenGW (Post 818174)
Video contest? More like a way to see how people pronounce "Graal"...

Pronounce it for us

Jarace 09-12-2018 06:09 AM

There have been some major updates to the contest. They include:
  • Submissions are now allowed from people without Graalians.com accounts. This website was created to facilitate them.
  • The deadline has been extended to October 3rd.
  • There are now a few more prizes, and a new category to reward the most humorous video. Videos with copyrighted elements will be allowed in this category, but NOT the promotional category.
I believe that summarizes everything. If there are any questions, let me know!

Puddles 09-12-2018 06:32 AM

So would I be able to submit to both categories for a higher chance of winning + more videos?

Zetectic 09-12-2018 06:51 AM

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Posted by Puddles (Post 818241)
So would I be able to submit to both categories for a higher chance of winning + more videos?

Edit:
Nvm, I just read OP again. You can resubmit your entry. I think that’s fair enough. Don’t think they’ll allow 2 submissions.

Jarace 09-12-2018 08:48 AM

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Posted by Puddles (Post 818241)
So would I be able to submit to both categories for a higher chance of winning + more videos?

Yes, you may submit a video to each category. You can also make one video and submit it to both categories. I have updated the post to reflect this.

Please specify which one(s) you are entering when posting a video. If you need me to edit an old post, let me know.

Pariah Kurza 09-12-2018 09:17 AM

Category as in.
Only a video for a graal server?
And maybe one if you want to include all of them?

Jarace 09-12-2018 05:16 PM

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Posted by Pariah Kurza (Post 818251)
Category as in.
Only a video for a graal server?
And maybe one if you want to include all of them?

The categories are tied directly to the prizes.

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Posted by Jarace (Post 817312)
Best Promotional Video Prizes:
First place: A $200 Amazon gift card
Second place: A $100 Amazon gift card
Third place: A $50 Amazon gift card

Most Humorous Video Prize:
First place: A $100 Amazon gift card

So the two categories are promotional and humorous videos.

Pariah Kurza 09-12-2018 05:24 PM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 818267)
The categories are tied directly to the prizes.
So the two categories are promotional and humorous videos.

I should've just given it another read.
Thank you though.

Garutias 09-12-2018 10:47 PM

The video contest is on the news

Jarace 09-13-2018 04:11 AM

First round of videos from people without Graalians.com accounts.
Spoiler
Humorous:

Promotional:

Promotional and Humorous:

Humorous:

Promotional:

Humorous:

Promotional and Humorous:

Promotional and Humorous:

Promotional:


I know some of these aren't perfect, but please be kind when discussing them. Since the contest was announced in-game, it is likely that a lot of younger people are submitting. You're still welcome to post feedback for them, of course, but they may not see it.

For some of these I was unsure if the music was copyrighted. I have reached out to those that have submitted, and if I find out any of them use copyrighted music I will edit them out of this post.

Zetectic 09-13-2018 04:14 AM

nice and SO MANY!!

Puddles 09-13-2018 04:33 AM

Here's my submission for the humorous category.



If we're required to supply a category for each submission, feel free to edit my other video post to specify the promotion category cause it seems I can't.

Jarace 09-13-2018 04:56 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 818295)
nice and SO MANY!!

There were quite a few more, this is less than half of them. I was surprised to see so many on the first day.

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Posted by Puddles (Post 818297)
Here's my submission for the humorous category.



If we're required to supply a category for each submission, feel free to edit my other video post to specify the promotion category cause it seems I can't.

Should be there now, thanks. If the people who already had submissions don't specify by the end of the contest, I'll enter them in both categories if their video is applicable.

Zetectic 09-13-2018 07:31 AM

How is voting gonna go? Is it gonna be google site vote? :d
This is gunna be so rigged, i hope unix/staffs just pick out the winners at the end.

While I think ‘asking for a vote’ is a strategy, but at the same time it just makes this entire contest a popularity contest rather than what it was intended for. Should tweak it a bit.

haruka 09-13-2018 06:51 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 818302)
How is voting gonna go? Is it gonna be google site vote? :d
This is gunna be so rigged, i hope unix/staffs just pick out the winners at the end.

While I think ‘asking for a vote’ is a strategy, but at the same time it just makes this entire contest a popularity contest rather than what it was intended for. Should tweak it a bit.

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Posted by Jarace (Post 817312)
[*]The users of Graalians.com and GraalOnline staff will have an equal say in selecting the winners.

could see a google poll being abused like Zet mentioned so will voting still be limited to forum users and staff?

Saeed 09-13-2018 06:52 PM

I would suggest the voting to take place in the discord server because it can be easier there with graaalians bot. I also think the voting shouldn’t deteriorate thr winners but to help graal online staff pick the winners

Jarace 09-13-2018 11:18 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 818302)
How is voting gonna go? Is it gonna be google site vote? :d
This is gunna be so rigged, i hope unix/staffs just pick out the winners at the end.

While I think ‘asking for a vote’ is a strategy, but at the same time it just makes this entire contest a popularity contest rather than what it was intended for. Should tweak it a bit.

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Posted by haruka (Post 818328)
could see a google poll being abused like Zet mentioned so will voting still be limited to forum users and staff?

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Posted by Saeed (Post 818329)
I would suggest the voting to take place in the discord server because it can be easier there with graaalians bot. I also think the voting shouldn’t deteriorate thr winners but to help graal online staff pick the winners

I am currently considering my options for voting. We have too many submissions to do a poll on Graalians.com, so that isn't an option. I was most recently considering a Google form, where I'd ask for the voter's Graalians username and email to verify they have an active account here (and that they are who they say they are).

Using the official Discord is worth considering. I'll continue considering the method, so I guess if you have suggestions feel free to reply here or pm me them.

Yes, the plan is to have the voting power split 50/50 still. It should help mitigate the risk of this becoming a popularity contest.

GOAT 09-13-2018 11:26 PM

The staff should pick like the top 25 videos for each category. Post them in a thread and lock it. Direct the players to the thread for voting options and have them vote in-game (identified plus x amount of hours to vote)

Puddles 09-14-2018 03:08 AM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 818340)
I was most recently considering a Google form, where I'd ask for the voter's Graalians username and email to verify they have an active account here (and that they are who they say they are).

Using the official Discord is worth considering. I'll continue considering the method, so I guess if you have suggestions feel free to reply here or pm me them.

I do hope that everyone who's interested in voting gets a chance to vote.. I just say that cause I've been playing since 2011 and had never even had a graalians account until a couple months ago, and when I made one, I had such a ridiculously long and frustrating experience trying to get it set up.

I do understand why you might want to limit voters though. The last thing I'd want if I won would be to have it discredited to "popularity".

Jarace 09-14-2018 06:32 AM

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Posted by Puddles (Post 818344)
I do hope that everyone who's interested in voting gets a chance to vote.. I just say that cause I've been playing since 2011 and had never even had a graalians account until a couple months ago, and when I made one, I had such a ridiculously long and frustrating experience trying to get it set up.

I do understand why you might want to limit voters though. The last thing I'd want if I won would be to have it discredited to "popularity".

The plan from the start was to have Graalians.com and the GraalOnline administration vote on it, so it is likely that we will keep that element.

Here's the second batch of submissions from people without Graalians.com accounts.
Spoiler
Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:

Promotional:


We hit 50 total submissions via form today!

eul 09-14-2018 09:54 AM

SUBSCRIBE

Tensor 09-14-2018 11:04 AM

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Posted by eul (Post 818356)
SUBSCRIBE

Cool.

Pariah Kurza 09-14-2018 01:08 PM

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Posted by eul (Post 818356)
SUBSCRIBE

That's some original idea. I loved the whole transition between going in and out of doors and buildings into different servers.
Good luck!

Zetectic 09-14-2018 02:28 PM

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Posted by eul (Post 818356)
SUBSCRIBE

Wtf. What are u?..

edit:
i hope this video is used for Graal Playerworld app advertisement. It really fits in there!

Zetectic 09-15-2018 01:51 AM

Jarace I have a suggestion. First, let Graalians cast more than 1 vote in round 1. Top 10 videos from round 1 will make it to the round 2, then Unixmad and Graal staffs will cast votes (more than 1) to pick the winners. By doing this Unixmad get to see the top 10 videos himself, also I believe the Graal staffs are very fair from what I've witnessed.
I personally believe it's very easy to persuade users to get votes on a specific person, that'll be never be stoppable and unfair to everyone.

^- if Unixmad likes your video and your video didn't make it to the winner list, he can still use it for the advertisement and pay you $200 (read the OP).

I see why GOAT suggested to involve entire Graal users to counter the problem. but the most of the playerpool doesn't give a ****. So they'll probably either vote on random video, friends video or attractive thumbnail/attractive first 5 second videos.


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