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Zero02 02-13-2012 04:36 AM

Why do i feel this is related to staff quality?

Rok 02-13-2012 03:36 PM

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Posted by XENA* (Post 66997)
in era one little bad thing and you're fired ;(

In era, the staff are held to a high regard. If a staff member gets off the hook for giving stuff away to their friends, what kind of message does that send to the players?
Nub: "Oh, if i get hired and can give lightsabers to all my friends? Sweet!" (Exaggerated example)

The staff know what's right and what's wrong, or at least they should.

Rages 02-13-2012 03:37 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 67234)
Guess what? Snake Rekon just quit, another very good developer gone.... The reason was

"Some things have changed in era and I don't think I like the path its taken..."

:((((( Stupid Era


Highly doubt it.
Stop spreading stuff without a proof.

Rok 02-13-2012 03:38 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 67010)
Everyone is seeing that this server is going to wrong way. A year later and it seems we've taken a step back. Not one forward :/

I 100% agree and have been saying this for months.

Rages 02-13-2012 04:04 PM

Yeah but there sadly is no way to change this. The problem is that the requirements of and the admin - job itself have changed a lot. From seriously helping player's and (mostly) respectful messages it has evolved into placing statues, getting spammed, doing weddings and such stuff...

New PR's are limited even more so that might also ruin the remaining fun of being an admin. Being monitored by admins, rated by both and spammed by players is not helping to like the job. It looks cool to be an admin but IT IS NOT. It is serious 'hard' work and not all of the 10-20yo we have hired knew that or could live with it. We must enforce the rules and punish abusive admins hard. Else we would end up like some other corrupted servers...

There might have been some... "misunderstandings" but in the end we only try to give you players the most enjoyable game experience.

Rok 02-13-2012 04:10 PM

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Posted by Rages (Post 67314)
It looks cool to be an admin but IT IS NOT. It is serious 'hard' work and not all of the 10-20yo we have hired knew that or could live with it. We must enforce the rules and punish abusive admins hard. Else we would end up like some other corrupted servers...

Yes. Being hired means it's a job. That means it's work. Being an admin isn't/shouldn't be just about hosting events and then having private get-togethers with a small group of your closest friends. Those things should come after the needs of the players. NEVER before. There's a time/age where a kid just wants to play games. That age is too young for a staff position.

Rages 02-13-2012 04:25 PM

Thank you for pointing that out. I have to admit that I don't even 'play' era as I got no fully working iDevice. That might be reason I never had an intention to ever abuse / give away items... O.o Beside that I'm way older than the average player.
Sadly that is something most player's don't think about when they apply. They only see the power / fun admins 'might' gain. :>

As I'm just a PR and not PRA or something I don't know how they read / judge applications hence I should not talk about it. I doubt it's an easy task.

Jester Lapse 02-13-2012 04:44 PM

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Posted by Rages
Thank you for pointing that out. I have to admit that I don't even 'play' era as I got no fully working iDevice. That might be reason I never had an intention to ever abuse / give away items... O.o Beside that I'm way older than the average player.
Sadly that is something most player's don't think about when they apply. They only see the power / fun admins 'might' gain. :>

As I'm just a PR and not PRA or something I don't know how they read / judge applications hence I should not talk about it. I doubt it's an easy task.

Well put

Alexei 02-13-2012 07:01 PM

Tink FTW xD

Jester Lapse 02-13-2012 07:09 PM

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Posted by Alexei
Tink FTW xD

She hosted a party just cuz someone got 1000 hours? Lol. And she announced it twice.

In my opinion. Events should be rarely going on with all the harassment and crap that goes on in era. The job of a PR should be to keep the game enjoyable for people to play, not have fun themselves. Just my 2 cents

Era News 02-14-2012 03:40 AM

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Posted by NCJohn

What?!?!? No! Snake is a beast :(

And guess what? He mumbled something about the staff team changing for the worst...

Quote:

Rages said:
I doubt that happened
Are you stupid? I know him in real life, I hate idiots that don't know wtf they are talking about

Luciano 02-14-2012 07:04 AM

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Posted by Crest (Post 66836)
Did he really get fired, because I still see him online.

i seen him back they rehired Noah.

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Posted by XENA* (Post 66997)
Yeah i like the new admins :) but i miss Gilgamesh, Cloyd and Novaa badly ;(((((((((((
I kinda agree with both Gilgamesh and Castor. I mean they could have at least warn her before firing her but at the same when you are fired you just have to move on (this is a game not as important as if you were fired from your job). Example: When castor was fired the next day he was on with his ipod account playing as a regular player without complaining.
I find that rude that admins don't have a 2nd chance :/ everybody makes mistakes :/ in era one little bad thing and you're fired ;(

your right, no one is perfect

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-14-2012 07:58 AM

Well you can see a reason why a staff team may abuse, and you may think they easy option would be to "remove their temptations" so theyre basicly normal players but i think as azrael said, since staff arnt payed "the benifits we get is basically what keeps us going" sad but true in a sence their fame is their payment.

Rages 02-14-2012 03:25 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 67545)
And guess what? He mumbled something about the staff team changing for the worst...


Are you stupid? I know him in real life, I hate idiots that don't know wtf they are talking about

No need to call me stupid. And I honestly don't see what your problem is. Calm down man. It is only a game.

Rok 02-14-2012 03:34 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 67588)
Well you can see a reason why a staff team may abuse

No reason besides immaturity that I can see.

John 02-14-2012 04:35 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 67545)
And guess what? He mumbled something about the staff team changing for the worst...


Are you stupid? I know him in real life, I hate idiots that don't know wtf they are talking about

That is a little wrong no one should be called stupid.

Era News 02-14-2012 07:02 PM

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Posted by Rages

No need to call me stupid. And I honestly don't see what your problem is. Calm down man. It is only a game.

You accused me of lieing, it's called a "False Accusation".

Rages 02-14-2012 08:40 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 67772)
You accused me of lieing, it's called a "False Accusation".

You wish. Instead of you I speak the truth. You should not spread rumors and try to act as if you talk to him IRL. Because sadly I'm talking to him right now and he is pretty sure your quote is a fake and he never said he would retire.

So... please double check your so called "news" next time... shame.

Jester Lapse 02-14-2012 08:47 PM

Urg cut it out. Every thread has a fight going on. Granted I've been in some but just take it to PM, I wanna read intelligent posts about the topic. Not crap bashing each other.

The Doctor 02-14-2012 09:12 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 67817)
Urg cut it out. Every thread has a fight going on. Granted I've been in some but just take it to PM, I wanna read intelligent posts about the topic. Not crap bashing each other.

Every thread has some sort of debate and gets off topic.

Zero02 02-14-2012 11:26 PM

I made this thread for political comments or debates, not fighting

Ace 02-14-2012 11:31 PM

Aw but fighting is the best part >:D

Zero02 02-14-2012 11:38 PM

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Posted by ACE (Post 67921)
Aw but fighting is the best part >:D

If it is related to the thread! >:O

Thunderstorm 02-15-2012 12:35 AM

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Posted by Rages (Post 67314)
Yeah but there sadly is no way to change this. The problem is that the requirements of and the admin - job itself have changed a lot. From seriously helping player's and (mostly) respectful messages it has evolved into placing statues, getting spammed, doing weddings and such stuff...

New PR's are limited even more so that might also ruin the remaining fun of being an admin. Being monitored by admins, rated by both and spammed by players is not helping to like the job. It looks cool to be an admin but IT IS NOT. It is serious 'hard' work and not all of the 10-20yo we have hired knew that or could live with it. We must enforce the rules and punish abusive admins hard. Else we would end up like some other corrupted servers...

There might have been some... "misunderstandings" but in the end we only try to give you players the most enjoyable game experience.

+1 Rep

Why does everyone care about Staff so much?

John 02-15-2012 12:42 AM

It used to be classic vs era arguments, but ever since the new admins were picked it seems like era players are hating on each other and to me some have just lost it.

Zero02 02-15-2012 12:51 AM

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Posted by John J Johnson (Post 67952)
It used to be classic vs era arguments, but ever since the new admins were picked it seems like era players are hating on each other and to me some have just lost it.

Completely lost it

SnakeRekon 02-15-2012 09:53 AM

Well - I've not offically quit or made any real decision on whether i'm actually quitting yet.
So ignore that 'Era News' guy whoever it may be for the time being.

- Snake Rekon

slick 02-15-2012 05:45 PM

graal kinda sucks now because admins ban for every little thing you do or say.

graal era 2010-march 2011 ftw!

SnakeRekon 02-15-2012 06:18 PM

I've always been a firm believer in allowing players more freedom personally.
Ever since I first started as PR, i've always thought Player Relations were too involved with players and that this is why things are as they are now, if staff are less involved, they wouldn't be as idolised and a lot more would and could be done, and there would also be less need for so many PR's

iGravity 02-15-2012 07:44 PM

I miss our original staff. Tink came back, wich is nice. Auron never left but for example Jatz and Masa. Forgotten Admins that only few know about :o

SnakeRekon 02-15-2012 09:06 PM

Jatz isn't an original staff member lol..

The older generation of PR's were mostly experienced people and mostly not Iphone bred, which is better really given the population of Iphone itself.

Rages 02-15-2012 10:31 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 68201)
Jatz isn't an original staff member lol..

The older generation of PR's were mostly experienced people and mostly not Iphone bred, which is better really given the population of Iphone itself.

<3

Jester Lapse 02-15-2012 10:53 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon
I've always been a firm believer in allowing players more freedom personally.
Ever since I first started as PR, i've always thought Player Relations were too involved with players and that this is why things are as they are now, if staff are less involved, they wouldn't be as idolised and a lot more would and could be done, and there would also be less need for so many PR's

So basically iClassic?

SnakeRekon 02-15-2012 11:06 PM

Can't really speak for Iclassic; never really played, so i'll leave that to you ^-^

But yeah - I guess if I remain staff i'll probably push for things to change in that direction, of course still having Events Team and the odd few things :)

<3 Rages

Zero02 02-15-2012 11:12 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 68247)
Can't really speak for Iclassic; never really played, so i'll leave that to you ^-^

But yeah - I guess if I remain staff i'll probably push for things to change in that direction, of course still having Events Team and the odd few things :)

Well, whats to change? most admins are quitting, getting fired...iEra is going nowhere now that i think about it

Jester Lapse 02-15-2012 11:42 PM

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Posted by SnakeRekon
Can't really speak for Iclassic; never really played, so i'll leave that to you ^-^

But yeah - I guess if I remain staff i'll probably push for things to change in that direction, of course still having Events Team and the odd few things :)

<3 Rages

Tbh I liked the fact that admins were social and had an obvious presence in the game. But how things are going, it's becoming ridiculous.

Tink broadcasts "hosting a party" almost every day for some member in her gang just for the hell of it. I remember her broadcasting twice for the same person simply because they got 1000h in game. Not really "party" worthy. Yesterday she hosted one for holigain just because.

Admins are now picking favorites and it seems they become staff to socialize rather than actually be staff.

Seeing as half our staff has iPod, I feel socialization should be left to that and when you're on PC, you should focus on your job rather than hosting parties for your favorites(this is one of many examples, and no hate on Tink. Just an observation)

Ace 02-15-2012 11:47 PM

This is true but I don't know how it's a scam?
http://graalonlinescam.com/
thought I'd post it cause your talking about corrupted staff.

Jester Lapse 02-15-2012 11:52 PM

Another thing that bugs me is when a staff member spars or bases.

1) it's not exactly fair
2) while they are basing or sparing someone is getting harassed or genuinely needs a staff members help
3) they could be doing it from their iPhone

Idk. It's just annoying to see how our staff operates sometimes

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Posted by ACE
This is true but I don't know how it's a scam?
http://graalonlinescam.com/
thought I'd post it cause your talking about corrupted staff.

Graalonline is based off of a Zelda game(if you ever played one for like GBA, you'd see the immediate similarities) at one point it was called Zelda Online or something. Yes you need to pay to play(or rather have full benefits on pc) which also applies to iPhone servers seeing as you have to pay $2.99 for full features. It seems to have mixed facts with opinion. Idk if graal is a scam, but the last sentence is a lie. Staff do not get paid

Ace 02-15-2012 11:55 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 68258)
Another thing that bugs me is when a staff member spars or bases.

1) it's not exactly fair
2) while they are basing or sparing someone is getting harassed or genuinely needs a staff members help
3) they could be doing it from their iPhone

Idk. It's just annoying to see how our staff operates sometimes



Graalonline is based off of a Zelda game(if you ever played one for like GBA, you'd see the immediate similarities) at one point it was called Zelda Online or something. Yes you need to pay to play(or rather have full benefits on pc) which also applies to iPhone servers seeing as you have to pay $2.99 for full features. It seems to have mixed facts with opinion. Idk if graal is a scam, but the last sentence is a lie. Staff do not get paid

Kat said staff needs to make a living from it...
You mean when HomelessWitch basing<not testing> pre-released guns as the gang "pink"s advantage. And throwing unlmited grenades over walls plowing us down :p

Jester Lapse 02-16-2012 12:07 AM

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Posted by ACE
Kat said staff needs to make a living from it...
You mean when HomelessWitch basing<not testing> pre-released guns as the gang "pink"s advantage. And throwing unlmited grenades over walls plowing us down :p

Exactly what I mean :) glad someone got it without me actually stating it.

Zero02 02-16-2012 01:31 AM

First time this became a hot topic o.o WTF?

DragonRider 02-16-2012 02:33 AM

Or think of this idea: trial staff, kinda like trial GPs. They are given the admin powers but are monitored and after an allotted amount of time and they show themselves worthy, they get hired. That way, we have less 10 year olds like Mariah and more mature people, like Aya or Cat612.
And for the spam part, sneak (is that what its called?) And answer questions using the chat box, not PMs.

Ace 02-16-2012 02:36 AM

They get just dragging and warping power I'm sure.

DragonRider 02-16-2012 02:37 AM

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Posted by ACE (Post 68257)
This is true but I don't know how it's a scam?
http://graalonlinescam.com/
thought I'd post it cause your talking about corrupted staff.

Last sentence should be replaced with Stefan/Unixmad.

SnakeRekon 02-16-2012 08:42 AM

Graal has been around for over a decade, yes it first originally had issues with copyright back then, however things have been changed and now their are no issues with such things inregards to the main part of the game, else they'd still not be able to operate o.o

slick 02-16-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by ACE
This is true but I don't know how it's a scam?
http://graalonlinescam.com/
thought I'd post it cause your talking about corrupted staff.

its a scam they want you to waste money on the items thats stupid thats why i scam shovels and dig my way

i only wasted $15 on the game probably other noobs wasted like $500 or more i know a dude that wasted $700

Ace 02-18-2012 01:58 AM

Also Events has unbalanced the world

Xertic 02-18-2012 02:46 AM

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Posted by slick (Post 68475)
its a scam they want you to waste money on the items thats stupid thats why i scam shovels and dig my way

i only wasted $15 on the game probably other noobs wasted like $500 or more i know a dude that wasted $700

r.. o.. f.. l..

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 68321)
Or think of this idea: trial staff, kinda like trial GPs. They are given the admin powers but are monitored and after an allotted amount of time and they show themselves worthy, they get hired. That way, we have less 10 year olds like Mariah and more mature people, like Aya or Cat612.
And for the spam part, sneak (is that what its called?) And answer questions using the chat box, not PMs.

Maturity at its finest.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-18-2012 03:03 AM

+rep

Thunderstorm 02-18-2012 03:47 AM

Quote:

Posted by DragonRider (Post 68321)
Or think of this idea: trial staff, kinda like trial GPs. They are given the admin powers but are monitored and after an allotted amount of time and they show themselves worthy, they get hired. That way, we have less 10 year olds like Mariah and more mature people, like Aya or Cat612.
And for the spam part, sneak (is that what its called?) And answer questions using the chat box, not PMs.

New Staff are monitored closely in their first weeks in terms of jails, items, etc.

So '10 year olds like Mariah' don't last long.


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