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Regius M. 10-03-2016 04:07 AM

we still want update, lol.

Devlin 10-06-2016 05:02 AM

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Posted by Fp* (Post 735507)
delteria IOS will come out before this new tileset is released, along with chelt updating us.

the only thing chelt has me thinking, because he hasn't updated us, is there is nothing to be updated on. Meaning they have no new tileset, just another joke.

How can delteria be released to iOS if the pc version isn't all that great in the first place?

G Fatal 10-06-2016 04:23 PM

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 735752)
we still want update, lol.

^^^Reveal the tileset to show players or some of theses 'images' he/she is already creating.. Players and community should have evidence of stuff actually being done literally anyone could come here and say 'yeah it's done, we using it now' 'covered tiles with blue to say what's done' that's not evidence at all and for how long stuff like that has been said is just leading players along and if you have nothing to show for that then most will eventually get fed up and leave game lots already have.

Ivy 10-06-2016 08:47 PM

Show us update

Regius M. 10-06-2016 09:39 PM

WHAT DO WE WANT?!

AN UPDATE!

WHAT DO WE WANT?!

AN UPDATE!

PigParty 10-06-2016 10:02 PM

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 736295)
WHAT DO WE WANT?!

AN UPDATE!

WHAT DO WE WANT?!

AN UPDATE!

u forgot to ask when we want it

G Fatal 10-06-2016 10:08 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 736305)
u forgot to ask when we want it

NOW!!! :D
But in all honesty I doubt they'll do or get it done by end of year :( that's even if they actually have anything.

Regius M. 10-06-2016 10:29 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 736307)
NOW!!! :D
But in all honesty I doubt they'll do or get it done by end of year :( that's even if they actually have anything.

YEAH!

Fp* 10-07-2016 06:59 AM

From recent choices that were made, it could mean that the tileset wont be coming soon.

Back in June, like the 28th or something, chelt (i believe it was chelt) made this comment (along side with a forum post that chelt was confident about the changes made):
http://imgur.com/sOYxDJW.png


However chelt recently said this:
http://imgur.com/sGklM7R.png








From this i take that what chelt/staff said months ago has changed, which things do, suggesting the tileset wont be coming anytime soon.

Sylvi 10-07-2016 07:48 AM

kinda sad that they're letting that paid tileset artist get away with getting paid while slacking off, you could tell he's not doing **** and getting ez money if they fired that lazy bastard and replaced him then there would actually be a finished tileset for show.

but its whatever now since zone only has 1/5 of the players left. eh izone was never a good server anyway too bad umixmad was too greedy to let it go.

Elk 10-07-2016 07:58 AM

i would have finished the tileset ages ago if they paid me :D

Rosewald 10-07-2016 09:00 AM

What if the tile set was actually completed, but implications popped up and resulted into it being delayed?
Just patiently wait for it, you never know what could've happened.

PigParty 10-07-2016 12:42 PM

I think Chelt said the tileset is done and they're working on the GMAP and they still have the artist making images and probably adding some tiles if needed. To be honest, around December 1st would be the best time to release the new GMAP. Completely new tileset, Christmas events/decorations around the map could intice people into coming on zone to see it & maybe try zone out.

G Fatal 10-07-2016 12:50 PM

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Posted by Fp* (Post 736355)
From recent choices that were made, it could mean that the tileset wont be coming soon.

From this i take that what chelt/staff said months ago has changed, which things do, suggesting the tileset wont be coming anytime soon.

Having different rewards has nothing to do with tileset...

He said literally few week back he'll update us on it and like week ago 'they are using it now' 'paid gfx is now making images'
So it's being done APPARENTLY hence why it should be shown. I mean who the hell would pay for something to be fully completed/near complete then not even use. So it's either being done(still need pic of tileset-OR some of the images to get feel of server-than a whambamfam get what you're given) or it's not being done at all/never was.

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Posted by Elk (Post 736372)
i would have finished the tileset ages ago if they paid me :D

Out of curiosity how much would you value a tileset in price.i.e if I said make spaced themed with parts being futuristic/advanced what would it cost? or estimates of time will take to be made/hrs of completion.

TWIZ 10-07-2016 01:22 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 736384)
Having different rewards has nothing to do with tileset...

He said literally few week back he'll update us on it and like week ago 'they are using it now' 'paid gfx is now making images'
So it's being done APPARENTLY hence why it should be shown. I mean who the hell would pay for something to be fully completed/near complete then not even use. So it's either being done(still need pic of tileset-OR some of the images to get feel of server-than a whambamfam get what you're given) or it's not being done at all/never was.


Out of curiosity how much would you value a tileset in price.i.e if I said make spaced themed with parts being futuristic/advanced what would it cost? or estimates of time will take to be made/hrs of completion.

If I were working for free I'd finish a tileset between 1-2 months, let alone if I were being paid. That's just me though, because I have a particular interest in making tiles.

Sardon 10-07-2016 01:59 PM

Although im not a gfx guy I can probally edit some tiles and post something here for what I think it should look like.
Unfortunatly due to colin I can't seem to post images so I'll have to imgur

Fp* 10-07-2016 03:54 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 736384)
Having different rewards has nothing to do with tileset...

I know that but I'm saying changes were made, meaning things could of changed from when chelt said "ill update you in a week" or whatever to now. implying what someone else mentioned, implications in the development.



To be honest, a simple "some problems occurred and we are working on it, we have this and this done but need to finish that and that" from chelt would be lovely, however we know that won't happen

G Fatal 10-07-2016 04:07 PM

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Posted by Fp* (Post 736406)
implying what someone else mentioned, implications in the development.

To be honest, a simple "some problems occurred and we are working on it, we have this and this done but need to finish that and that" from chelt would be lovely, however we know that won't happen

Yeah totally agree if he aint going to show tileset or least few images like I said awhile back be prepared for the 'We will ask unixmad/we've asked unixmad if we can change tileset blahblahblah' (Even that they have full rights on updates something this big-on how game looks would need his approval and also would need to get app store images changed etc to show how it is etc..[If they haven't already discussed/got authorisation on tileset I'll say it's pretty likely that it won't happen at all]

Hugop 10-07-2016 08:01 PM

Guys, the tileset maker is my friend. If you want to fight him, you need to beat me first!

*dank meme goes here* *graalians.com is mobile friendly*

TWIZ 10-07-2016 09:38 PM

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Posted by Hugop (Post 736434)
Guys, the tileset maker is my friend. If you want to fight him, you need to beat me first!

*dank meme goes here* *graalians.com is mobile friendly*

sooo... tileset creator isn't just some random dude with no insight on the "Graal style?"

*phew*

Elk 10-08-2016 10:24 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 736384)
Out of curiosity how much would you value a tileset in price.i.e if I said make spaced themed with parts being futuristic/advanced what would it cost? or estimates of time will take to be made/hrs of completion.

depends on complexity, can vary from 1000-4000$

probably 2-3 months if it has to be pretty detailed
1 month if its something on shangri-la's level, but pixelart instead

Weeno 10-08-2016 01:36 PM

I really hope the tileset maker has a graal style pixel art

G Fatal 10-11-2016 10:43 AM

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Posted by Elk (Post 736505)
depends on complexity, can vary from 1000-4000$

probably 2-3 months if it has to be pretty detailed
1 month if its something on shangri-la's level, but pixelart instead

Interesting, another question who's actually paying for this tileset now as I really doubt chelt would pay that sort of money on a server he doesn't even care about in the first place and just waiting for delteria ios to go back there.. and unix seems oblivious to this even happening.

PigParty 10-11-2016 12:04 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 736947)
Interesting, another question who's actually paying for this tileset now as I really doubt chelt would pay that sort of money on a server he doesn't even care about in the first place and just waiting for delteria ios to go back there.. and unix seems oblivious to this even happening.

unixmad is aware and paying for it...

Sardon 10-11-2016 02:07 PM

As long as the tileset isn't all blue I'm fine.

Elk 10-11-2016 02:29 PM

youd be surprised how many people on graal are willing to pay good $$$ for stuff

in 2007-8 or something, *Shaun offered me 1000$ to make a classic styled tileset

but i wasnt as confident in making tiles back then



3-4k may look a lot, but its actually very cheap considering how long youre going to use the tileset, and how much of an impact it would have on the income

Regius M. 10-11-2016 05:04 PM

Just hope for the best, lmao

G Fatal 10-11-2016 10:18 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 736954)
unixmad is aware and paying for it...

Claims who? he's never/barely ever logged onto zone(even more unlikely as was stefan's home back intheday) and there isn't any statement about it what I've seen, even when asked he avoided the question completely for a 'hey' instead lol

PigParty 10-11-2016 10:55 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 736985)
Claims who? he's never/barely ever logged onto zone(even more unlikely as was stefan's home back intheday) and there isn't any statement about it what I've seen, even when asked he avoided the question completely for a 'hey' instead lol

he was when Tashkin started the project for getting a new tileset. Plus no one's going to pay $ out of their own pocket to benefit a business that they volunteer as a staff member for. It's a business expense - and investment.

Trav 10-12-2016 03:13 AM

Its kinda bland imo

Regius M. 10-12-2016 03:56 AM

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Posted by xxJaymanxx (Post 737003)
Its kinda bland imo

the current tileset?

Trav 10-12-2016 04:18 AM

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 737006)
the current tileset?

Yes, even the tileset before the Halloween update.
In a futuristic world, its ineveitable

Regius M. 10-14-2016 01:08 AM

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Posted by Trav (Post 737008)
Yes, even the tileset before the Halloween update.
In a futuristic world, its ineveitable

I feel like iZone could have one of the most detailed tilesets than the others due to it being in space, I mean you can only do sand, grass, and concrete so good. But in space there is a lot more than just basic stuff.

Trav 10-14-2016 01:33 AM

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 737154)
I feel like iZone could have one of the most detailed tilesets than the others due to it being in space, I mean you can only do sand, grass, and concrete so good. But in space there is a lot more than just basic stuff.

I dont know about you guys but I'd prefer a silver themed tileset.

TWIZ 10-14-2016 03:39 AM

I feel like zone always deserved a tileset with a combination of concrete slum and metallic futurism with neon lights

Regius M. 10-14-2016 04:43 AM

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 737176)
I feel like zone always deserved a tileset with a combination of concrete slum and metallic futurism with neon lights

lmfao

Trav 10-14-2016 05:04 AM

Right now it looks like blue plastic

G Fatal 10-14-2016 09:10 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 736987)
Unixmad is aware and paying for it

Yeahhh... we ain't getting it.

Chelterrar 10-14-2016 09:29 AM

Jeeez all of you are pessimistic ☹️

PigParty 10-14-2016 02:18 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 737208)
Jeeez all of you are pessimistic ☹️

You should be used to it with Delteria, (based on the iOS release stuff) but to your point: yes, this is zone.

Chelterrar 10-14-2016 03:59 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 737224)
You should be used to it with Delteria, (based on the iOS release stuff) but to your point: yes, this is zone.



By now it seems like announcing the whole revamp was a mistake. Not because it isn't happening (it is happening) but rather because everyone either expects it to be done tomorrow or is super salty about it.

On zone there are many things being worked on, different system revamps, etc. Everyone complains that they don't know what's going on, yet when I present and talk about stuff it normally gets raged at for not being done. And if things that are being planned get delayed or scrapped, all hell breaks lose.

Fp* 10-14-2016 05:00 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 737231)
By now it seems like announcing the whole revamp was a mistake. Not because it isn't happening (it is happening) but rather because everyone either expects it to be done tomorrow or is super salty about it.

i don't mind if it is not done soon, but an update on how far it is would be lovely.
Like i have been asking for a long time...

Chelterrar 10-14-2016 05:04 PM

Opinions on the new Zone tileset?
 
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Posted by Fp* (Post 737233)
i don't mind if it is not done soon, but an update on how far it is would be lovely.

Like i have been asking for a long time...



It is ready to work with and already being worked with. We are only adding new ideas right now to it, the layout of what we are building is also done.

But we paused the map, since Alpho and I had a talk about a way to make layers work. If that works, or does not work, the progress on the map will continue. Yet if layers work we have to start the Map from scratch, and therefore it has been paused. (Edit: Alpho does not work and develope for Zone, we just thought about joining forces on this one ^_^)

Our graphics artist is designing buildings, etc right now.

A big chunk of the team is busy with Halloween.

I myself an currently juggling a tour through Germany and Europe with limited data, bad Internet and graal. So I might not log on a daily basis in October.

Anything else? [emoji39]

Fp* 10-14-2016 05:06 PM

Thank you sir, perfecto! Good luck with your tour.

G Fatal 10-14-2016 08:47 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 737234)
Anything else? [emoji39]

Until you show evidence like stated of the actual tileset itself(put a watermark or random stuff through it if not wanting fully shown) or show images that are being made/completed.. Otherwise anyone can say i've made this, i've made that but hey where's that evidence.

Sure thing bravo if any of this is being done but literally everyone has heard this all before since classic 'coming soon' days rip remi/marion -quests, rip delteria ios years from now release, rip content updates.


You see I can say:
Hey guys I've made new completed server it's like iclassic but actually has quests aswell as having the forts alltime ldrbd even has a spaceship that flys me to zone, it's super easy to earn money also has really unique stuff it's actually on ios but y'know just keeping for myself atm because y'know I can and you'll just have to believe me and maybe in few years when my times up I'll pass the burden on to someone else and you'll forget I even had all this stuff because you'll be fed up of the fake promises etc but hey guys it's coming for real it's all happening you know why because I said it is.. you can't have any images or pictures though because that's sure going to spoil everything your going to see anyway.

Fp* 10-14-2016 09:08 PM

At least he said something

PigParty 10-14-2016 09:19 PM

I don't think anyone doubts that the tileset is being made and is at the level of progression that Chelt stated. The problem is people think these projects won't actually get 100% done and released. Zone has had countless projects in the past that were "in progress" but never saw the light of day. Zone players are pessimstic because of that happening many times. The problem with teasing updates right now is that there's nothing occupying zonians' time until that update is released. Everything we currently have is a complete mess (missions, basing, and... that's it? Oh, trading) so these updates are the only things going for Zone. It's not like Zone players see the M bases sign and think "oh that will be cool when that's released", instead they think "When will it be released?". And then that thought just builds up as time goes on, since that's what Zone players are used to.

Weeno 10-14-2016 09:53 PM

Honestly zone could still be a good server with an ugly tileset

Bryan* 10-14-2016 11:16 PM

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Posted by Fp* (Post 737255)
At least he said something


By providing half-ass answers.

G Fatal 10-14-2016 11:39 PM

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Posted by Fp* (Post 737255)
At least he said something

Sorry on vacation for next 10years, it's coming though. keep playing. kthanksbye.


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