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Jester Lapse 08-11-2016 01:16 AM

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Posted by Alex Damian (Post 727719)
Spoiler
I could literally show a gif gyazo scrolling down of cards full of images and stuff we prepared for Zone. But nothing of it is being used now.

I can attest to this. I actually considered coming back to zone after Alex reached out to me with his ideas and the direction he planned on taking the server. A lot of plans and ideas, and the best part was work was actually being done to get towards those goals.

I don't know about the state of iZone now, but Chelt did say his summer shop was getting him great reviews as if that's his best achievement as of late. Seasonal shops are so easy.

Alex Damian 08-11-2016 01:24 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 727720)
I can attest to this. I actually considered coming back to zone after Alex reached out to me with his ideas and the direction he planned on taking the server. A lot of plans and ideas, and the best part was work was actually being done to get towards those goals.

I don't know about the state of iZone now, but Chelt did say his summer shop was getting him great reviews as if that's his best achievement as of late. Seasonal shops are so easy.

A lot of work was done and honestly I always think about posting it here to actually show them what WAS done and what COULD have happened. But it's whatever.

I do remember chatting with you daily about the high hopes I had for iZone, including that awesome storyline we always discussed about haha :). They trashed our projects anyways and god knows what they're planning now besides that tileset they're taking months on

I sadly went inactive due to things going on irl, and they sent Carlito over to 'save zone'. I think if he wasn't sent most of our projects would have been released by now, not trashed.

And the saddest part of it all was it was all things never before seen on an iOS server, instead of some beach you could go on iEra to see.

Chelterrar 08-11-2016 01:26 AM

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Posted by Alex Damian (Post 727724)
I do remember chatting with you daily about the high hopes I had for iZone, including that awesome storyline we always discussed about haha :). They trashed our projects anyways and god knows what they're planning now besides that tileset they're taking months on


OHHHHH you mean the tileset which got paused during your reign, and which I reinstated during mine? Riiiight

Alex Damian 08-11-2016 01:27 AM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 727725)
OHHHHH you mean the tileset which got paused during your reign, and which I reinstated during mine? Riiiight

I don't know why but every time you post you have this kind of anger stirred up or like just something aimed towards me lol

Chelterrar 08-11-2016 01:28 AM

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Posted by Alex Damian (Post 727726)
I don't know why but every time you post you have this kind of anger stirred up or like just something aimed towards me lol


One thing you gotta learn :3 not everything is about you ^_^

Jester Lapse 08-11-2016 01:30 AM


let people have pets
no no, let people have goopas
lmfao

rip old imgur acct

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 727725)
OHHHHH you mean the tileset which got paused during your reign, and which I reinstated during mine? Riiiight

reign? is this graal kingdoms? trump?

Alex Damian 08-11-2016 01:30 AM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 727727)
One thing you gotta learn :3 not everything is about you ^_^

Well that last message was actually directed towards me since it was quoted about my above post

imSupah 08-11-2016 08:59 AM

Only thing I see Chelt talk about is tileset, tileset, and tileset. No new ideas or content for Zone. Besides a beach, few changes (like reverting jailing system), and seasonal shops, Zone has been in the same place as it was when Chelt became manager months back. What happened to the new showdown maps? Couldn't we get a bit more depth with classes and perhaps revamp them? Let's change the mission system. The game is a complete bore. This tileset may change Zone but if there's no content updates, then Zone will still be a flop. And Chelt it doesn't help when you try to come at people who speaks the truth. Nothing but small and subtle changes have happened since you became the manager.

PumaD 08-11-2016 11:45 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 727697)
tranny

Sweared more than Trump too. :/

Chelterrar 08-11-2016 12:27 PM

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Posted by xSupah* (Post 727795)
Only thing I see Chelt talk about is tileset, tileset, and tileset. No new ideas or content for Zone. Besides a beach, few changes (like reverting jailing system), and seasonal shops, Zone has been in the same place as it was when Chelt became manager months back. What happened to the new showdown maps? Couldn't we get a bit more depth with classes and perhaps revamp them? Let's change the mission system. The game is a complete bore. This tileset may change Zone but if there's no content updates, then Zone will still be a flop. And Chelt it doesn't help when you try to come at people who speaks the truth. Nothing but small and subtle changes have happened since you became the manager.


If you would have been active in game you would know more about our plans. We presented them on forums quite a while ago. Just cause I won't list them on graalians and everywhere the whole time, doesn't mean we don't have any [emoji23]

imSupah 08-11-2016 12:37 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 727813)
If you would have been active in game you would know more about our plans. We presented them on forums quite a while ago. Just cause I won't list them on graalians and everywhere the whole time, doesn't mean we don't have any [emoji23]

But that's all you mostly do. All talk,no action. At this point I'll believe it when I see it.

G Fatal 08-11-2016 05:36 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 727813)
Just cause I won't list them on graalians and everywhere the whole time, doesn't mean we don't have any

Doesn't mean you'll do any n'all..

but we have 2big ones that are stated and now expected under your manager role -Tileset needs to be complete and Showdown maps/Solo ldrboard for it. Then,only then you'll have a strong backing that can actually be supported by the work done.

Jester Lapse 08-11-2016 06:39 PM

This thread has just shown me how immature the new leadership of iZone is. No other manager of any game server has actually talked to their playerbase like this so blatantly. Instead of taking the feedback like anyone in a leadership position has to, positive or negative, all that has been done is "we have plans, you're not cool enough to know" "we made a cool summer shop guys" and other random bickering. Good luck getting ANYWHERE treating your playerbase like you're above them. Without them, there is no leadership role for you to fill.

imSupah 08-11-2016 11:33 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 727839)
This thread has just shown me how immature the new leadership of iZone is. No other manager of any game server has actually talked to their playerbase like this so blatantly. Instead of taking the feedback like anyone in a leadership position has to, positive or negative, all that has been done is "we have plans, you're not cool enough to know" "we made a cool summer shop guys" and other random bickering. Good luck getting ANYWHERE treating your playerbase like you're above them. Without them, there is no leadership role for you to fill.

Damn, need to spread rep but agreed 100%.

WarrLordd 08-12-2016 12:59 AM

@Alex before your post was deleted, Delteria isn't corrupted how can it be? We don't have any player base to abuse so how can the staff be corrupt ;)

PigParty 08-12-2016 01:53 AM

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 727870)
@Alex before your post was deleted, Delteria isn't corrupted how can it be? We don't have any player base to abuse so how can the staff be corrupt ;)

I'm not saying you guys are, but staff could still give themselves stuff, help their player accs with dungeons or quests or whatever, etc.

Chelterrar 08-12-2016 02:49 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 727839)
This thread has just shown me how immature the new leadership of iZone is. No other manager of any game server has actually talked to their playerbase like this so blatantly. Instead of taking the feedback like anyone in a leadership position has to, positive or negative, all that has been done is "we have plans, you're not cool enough to know" "we made a cool summer shop guys" and other random bickering. Good luck getting ANYWHERE treating your playerbase like you're above them. Without them, there is no leadership role for you to fill.



So with about 5 posts by me, talking to Alex, you have already identified how I treat the entire player base. Oh plus you figure out my character and you figured I don't take feedback. Well I guess if YOU say this, it has to be true [emoji12] how about you actually play zone and figure it out yourself. So I can treat you how I treat my playerbase :)

Jester Lapse 08-12-2016 03:45 AM

I was referring to what you commented to supah, but yes, your interaction with Alex has been immature and subpar as well. I wouldn't waste my time playing iZone, all you have is a summer shop ;)

Khai 08-12-2016 03:54 AM

https://i.gyazo.com/9959f675ec3b36b8...924539e04c.png

LOL

Alex Damian 08-12-2016 05:04 AM

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Posted by WarrLordd (Post 727870)
@Alex before your post was deleted, Delteria isn't corrupted how can it be? We don't have any player base to abuse so how can the staff be corrupt ;)

Trust me, there are still ways to be corrupt. I'll just say that lol.

Chelterrar 08-12-2016 07:17 AM

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Posted by ViyGeek (Post 727894)



I never said that?

Cecily 08-12-2016 01:01 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 727839)
This thread has just shown me how immature the new leadership of iZone is. No other manager of any game server has actually talked to their playerbase like this so blatantly. Instead of taking the feedback like anyone in a leadership position has to, positive or negative. all that has been done is "we have plans, you're not cool enough to know" "we made a cool summer shop guys" and other random bickering. Good luck getting ANYWHERE treating your playerbase like you're above them. Without them, there is no leadership role for you to fill.

Don't mean to derail the thread but i saw the irony considering you were the gfx admin.

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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 720804)
You are kinda of missing the point of it. Please do not call my pieces "badly made" when you yourself can't do any better. We all have our preferences and you are just down right trying to trash me like every artist does on the graalians forums. How about appreciate that Zone has decent graphic artists? Please don't speak for my graphic piece when everything you are saying is just a representation of jealously. You came on this thread to specifically trash the eagle rather than acknowledge the level in which you would know nothing about because you don't play Zone. If you would like, I could totally trash your art thread but its a waste of time as I am content with my artwork and confident.

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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 720806)
This is a few words from an artist who has nothing better to do than trash others. Please, take yourself somewhere else because you wouldn't even come close to landing a spot on zone with such a arrogant attitude and nothing to show as your graphics meet standards.

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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 720809)
Its honestly pathetic when people who I respect come on to disrespect someone for no reason and doing on a irrelevant thread.

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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 720853)
"The feels" you say... Can you just stop and think about what you ever say? First of all, I don't actually have any feelings hurt from your pathetic comments because they are just full of jealously. Lets put this in perspective for once and I will try to explain in simple terminology for you. You hop on the Zone forum, though you rarely do, notice a new post because you probably are so bored out of your mind that you just had to read everything that is in bold. Then you decide to go wayyyyy off topic by critiquing my eagle in which I didn't ask for your advice. I don't care if people like my art or not, its that you get some common sense and put your comments in the correct section which in this case would be art or development. Just stay on topic, alright? I mean there are no real explanations as to why you would make a lengthy comment about it when the thread was not focusing on that. If you were mature enough, youd understand to put your two cents where it belongs.

if anyone is wondering, these quotes were a reply to this post about this gfx
http://i.imgur.com/rsqDydv.png
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...4&postcount=18

:love:

PigParty 08-12-2016 01:17 PM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 727932)
Don't mean to derail the thread but i saw the irony considering you were the gfx admin.
if anyone is wondering, these quotes were a reply to this post about this gfx
http://i.imgur.com/rsqDydv.png
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...4&postcount=18
:love:

There's a higher bar set for the manager. You expect professionalism from them. I also find it ironic how ignorant you are, yet you butt in here as if you actually know what you talk about. Irony turns to humor when people realize that you don't.

Jester Lapse 08-12-2016 06:26 PM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 727932)
Don't mean to derail the thread but i saw the irony considering you were the gfx admin. :love:

since when am I JestertheCat? lmao. He's always been hard headed, but he is not me. Notice the different names.

And to bring it back onto topic, taking critique on your artwork is far different than taking critique on a server that you manage. I don't really feel the need to read through that thread, but I can tell you, being an ex pixel pusher myself, some people do give bad feedback or in general don't know what they are talking about when giving feedback on your art.

As for iZone, the same complaints and feedback has been made by pretty much their whole playerbase for a long ass time. To see current management just shrugging it off and saying we have plans but I don't feel the need to explain them to you is hilarious to me. Your playerbase is who you should be preaching those plans to, so they at least have something to look forward to in an otherwise stagnant server.

Khai 08-12-2016 06:36 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 727915)
I never said that?

ik lmao

John98 08-15-2016 07:57 AM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 727185)
wait johnraven was a lat admin at one point? the more i learn the more im relieved that chelt became manager, lots of questionable decisions were made in the past :sarcastic:

I'm John R.
Aka John98
Aka Jonathan R.

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Posted by Diakuz (Post 727243)
John Raven is a good friend of mine, we still find vulnerabilities in graal but I don't exploit them anymore, you can ask Alex Damian because I've told him how to fix many of them, Alex and I are good friends and he used to help on my sever before it went down. Plus I haven't nor wanted to hack graal for a while now, presumably 8 months. Overall I started hacking graal because I was fired on vacation for absolutely no reason. Realizing that was wrong I started on my own sever, scripting GS2,GS3 in many servers other than my own. And I am willing to help graal rather than hurt it.


You know why you was fired, I explained it to you 3 times.
Stop playing games.

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Posted by Alex Damian (Post 727430)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7/IMG_1047.PNG

Not to be mean but who made this level LOL.. Look at the walls and the floor..
The graphics were quality though good job.

Don't judge someone else's level, We can do the same about your zone levels.

PigParty 08-15-2016 11:55 AM

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Posted by John98 (Post 728256)
I'm John R.
Aka John98
Aka Jonathan R.
You know why you was fired, I explained it to you 3 times.
Stop playing games.
Don't judge someone else's level, We can do the same about your zone levels.

Never knew we weren't allowed to judge someone else's development work. Sorry for giving critique. Come on. I thought you were better than that, John.

Weeno 08-15-2016 10:03 PM

My turn to judge, WHAT ARE THOSE GRAPHICS THO
http://i.imgur.com/FIjmBk5.gif

Jester Lapse 08-15-2016 11:15 PM

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Posted by John98 (Post 728256)
I'm John R.
Aka John98
Aka Jonathan R.

Don't judge someone else's level, We can do the same about your zone levels.

If you have to introduce yourself 3 times, you don't have the right to be that cocky lol.

Chelterrar 08-15-2016 11:48 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 728263)
Never knew we weren't allowed to judge someone else's development work. Sorry for giving critique. Come on. I thought you were better than that, John.

There is a difference between presenting levels to be judged or have them somewhere on a thread

PigParty 08-16-2016 01:29 AM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 728328)
There is a difference between presenting levels to be judged or have them somewhere on a thread

They were a level made on Zone and therefore is open to critique. No, there is not a difference - at least when it comes to critiquing artwork. You can't say "You can't critique a painting at a museum in a group conversation with others." That honestly makes no sense. If you don't want your artwork critiqued, don't release it for anyone to see. I can bring up so many sitautions to easily contradict the unrealistic post you made. Hell, you criticized other staff and previous managers, yet someone gives their valid criticism on a level made and released on Zone, and you turn hypocritical and make up balogna about when you can and cannot critique something, haha.

Alex Damian 08-16-2016 02:39 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 728340)
They were a level made on Zone and therefore is open to critique. No, there is not a difference - at least when it comes to critiquing artwork. You can't say "You can't critique a painting at a museum in a group conversation with others." That honestly makes no sense. If you don't want your artwork critiqued, don't release it for anyone to see. I can bring up so many sitautions to easily contradict the unrealistic post you made. Hell, you criticized other staff and previous managers, yet someone gives their valid criticism on a level made and released on Zone, and you turn hypocritical and make up balogna about when you can and cannot critique something, haha.

Lol well said

On a side note, I just found out I am blacklisted on iZone :D lol

PigParty 08-16-2016 03:00 AM

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Posted by Alex Damian (Post 728343)
Lol well said

On a side note, I just found out I am blacklisted on iZone :D lol

That's hilariously stupid.

Khai 08-16-2016 03:00 AM

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Posted by Alex Damian (Post 728343)
Lol well said

On a side note, I just found out I am blacklisted on iZone :D lol



why

Alex Damian 08-16-2016 03:37 AM

I don't know, some guy said it but I have no idea if it's true.

John98 08-16-2016 06:51 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 728263)
Never knew we weren't allowed to judge someone else's development work. Sorry for giving critique. Come on. I thought you were better than that, John.

I haven't judged anyone's work yet, If I did, You would know.
I say it front on, not behind a shadow.


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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 728326)
If you have to introduce yourself 3 times, you don't have the right to be that cocky lol.

I change my name a lot.
My 3 most common names on iZone and iEra.

GlazeyB 08-16-2016 07:39 AM

Make Zone great again. Zone PC 2016.

PigParty 08-16-2016 12:55 PM

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Posted by John98 (Post 728366)
I haven't judged anyone's work yet, If I did, You would know.
I say it front on, not behind a shadow.
I change my name a lot.
My 3 most common names on iZone and iEra.

1. I never said you judged anyone's work. I criticized you for saying no one is allowed to criticize it, which is hilarious and wrong.
2. Alex said his criticism in the public forums, not sure how that's "behind a shadow" but I guess you have the right to be wrong.

I said You're better than that, because you are. You shouldn't be defensive over someone criticising a level that they have the right to judge.

Also, you can't just assume he's the same person because they both have 'Cat' in their name. Well you can, but you would be wrong to do so. They are 2 different people. One of them is an asshole, the other one is cool and makes baby hippos.

John98 08-16-2016 02:11 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 728395)
1. I never said you judged anyone's work. I criticized you for saying no one is allowed to criticize it, which is hilarious and wrong.
2. Alex said his criticism in the public forums, not sure how that's "behind a shadow" but I guess you have the right to be wrong.

I said You're better than that, because you are. You shouldn't be defensive over someone criticising a level that they have the right to judge.

Also, you can't just assume he's the same person because they both have 'Cat' in their name. Well you can, but you would be wrong to do so. They are 2 different people. One of them is an asshole, the other one is cool and makes baby hippos.

1.The message I'm trying to say is," People have feelings." You can criticize.
I give constructive criticism and just criticize mostly when I feel like it.

2. Alex shouldn't criticize. Behind a shadow is something I say with wisdom.
I'm speaking around his actions. Not on to put him on blast. We all know If I wanted to put Alex on blast I would. Not saying I want to. It's mostly a understanding of how to make yourself a better person.

Do you get what I mean? Not to make it sound rude or anything.

Also the way you are comparing it seems as if you are calling me a **** or saying i'm trying to be a asshole. If not then clarify this for me. I don't understand it.

PigParty 08-16-2016 02:37 PM

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Posted by John98 (Post 728399)
1.The message I'm trying to say is," People have feelings." You can criticize.
I give constructive criticism and just criticize mostly when I feel like it.

2. Alex shouldn't criticize. Behind a shadow is something I say with wisdom.
I'm speaking around his actions. Not on to put him on blast. We all know If I wanted to put Alex on blast I would. Not saying I want to. It's mostly a understanding of how to make yourself a better person.

Do you get what I mean? Not to make it sound rude or anything.

Also the way you are comparing it seems as if you are calling me a **** or saying i'm trying to be a asshole. If not then clarify this for me. I don't understand it.

Alex gave constructive criticism. He pointed out specifically what was wrong with the level. Not sure why he shouldn't criticize. And I'm not saying you're a ****, but I am saying your accusations of Jester Lapse were wrong, but you appeared to continue with them.

Jester Lapse 08-16-2016 07:09 PM

Alex has every right to criticize someone else as they have to criticize him. In the end though, people's actions will always shine through, and as I said previously, what this thread turned into is a display of how poor current management is at the public relations part of their server.


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