Maybe their could be a safe in some classrooms that could only be activated by the principal during shootings. The classrooms with the safes would have teachers who have gun licenses so that way they know exactly how to use it. At this point we don't know when the next mass shooting will be, but we seem to have one every month and if our government doesn't step up to do anything more people are going to die.

Just stop selling automatic rifles to civilians? there is already 1m+ ar15's in circulation (the one used in orlando shooting) but by restricting the sale of automatic weapons you restrict what a person can do in terms of using a firearm

Honestly, mental illness is the real issue behind most shootings we see. Obviously there's many problems with gun control and background checks, but mental illness is the issue that needs addressed much more than gun control right now. There's no systems to help people, to catch red flags that family members often see. We just leave the mentally ill out to dry, and then we end up with casualties.

theme: let's stop the gun violence
Asia: 'BAN THE GUNS AND ENFORCE THE LAW'
America: 'ADD MORE GUNS AND GIVE IT TO PPL SO THEY CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES, oh don't forget we have much higher taxes. ;)'

When people say "ban guns" as if that would even come close to solving the problem...

it probably won't for US(already too many guns), but it will definitely reduce the violence by half.
and would u rather deal someone with knife or gun?

I say we give teachers the right to bare arms, amiright?

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No one's going to shoot up a school where teachers are showing off their own little gunshow.

Skadoosh!!!
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the sale of new fully automatic rifles to consumers is illegal.

in fact so is the manufacturing and registering of new fully automatic rifles.

it has been this way for over 30 years.

Right? As if when you ban guns, the 310m+ in circulation will disappear... No, it will just prevent responsible, law-abiding citizens from getting them and defending themselves against the people who will still get them even when they're "banned."

lol. "it will definitely reduce the violence by half." May I see how you came to those specific statistics? No criminal is going to try to rob a store with a knife because guns are illegal. Just because guns are illegal, doesn't mean they can't get them. All it will mean is that no one else will have guns to protect themselves.

Ya know the saying. If guns were outlawed, only outlaws would have guns.

No. They should have the right to bear arms.

I just thought it was funny. Didn't know every one of my pics had to be pro-guns <3

then what other precautions should we take instead of using guns?

Have you ever heard of the saying, "fight fire with fire."

There must be a ton of things you disagree with but sometimes you just have to learn to accept it. because in some cases only through this "violence" can things be justified. you may think what i said is wrong, but you know its true.

Fighting fire with fire never puts out the actual fire.

Fighting fires with fire is a very important strategy in fighting wild fires on the US West Coast.

Yeah try pulling a gun on a crazed killer and see how things go.

the statistic was obviously my own assumption. only reference i can make it, drinking and driving thing. they higher the age to 21 and accident rate have gone down.
guns become illegal and government takes all the guns = less gun violence, but yeah it can't stop completely and that's not what i am saying.
unless it's like korea and japan where possessing a gun can get you lifetime in jail, extremely rare condition to find a gun. <-but in these countries, there are random street knife murders. they kill about ~3 and it's on news everyday

The government cannot just "take all the guns." That's a stupid thing to even suggest. Maybe it's almost possible in a tiny, little European country, but not the United States.

if it becomes illegal = why not? i know it's impossible, but at least if they tried, they can collect millions of legally registered guns.

Phew, I know some people down here in the south who'd be PISSED if guns became illegal.

IMO, as long as you're mentally healthy, have a license, and know how to actually use a gun, you should be able to have one.

lol. so if they are tempered, they shouldn't have it.

Never said those people should have guns, I just said they'd be mad about it.

considering that there's:
gun violence everyday in bronx, yonkers, harlem.
teacher rapes students in hs, middle school, after school activities.
it's just gonna make it worse.

I think people are confused about how the US government works.

It is a democracy. The government of the US doesn't make laws that it thinks needs to be made based on data and general need. It makes laws based on what the people want through elected representatives.

Gun control can be done. The sale of guns can be restricted, and ownership can require stricter screening and licensing. However, guns cannot be made illegal. That will NEVER happen in the United States. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The peoples' right to have weapons is protected by the US Constitution.

Also, the argument with teachers having guns isn't the government seeking an answer to school shootings and coming up with giving teachers guns. It's teachers requesting permission to carry personal fire arms to protect themselves and their students, and, tbh, I don't support it. Shooting someone is not an easy decision, and I wouldn't want anyone to feel obligated to have to own a gun and worry about needing to shoot someone. I also don't want anyone to resort to shooting someone when there are other means to prevent those situations. However, I opt not to vote, so I do not get upset or defensive when people disagree with me on these subjects because I don't put my say into it.

If the gov. ever tried to take guns away from everyone, I guaruntee that dozens of cops will be shot on the day they try to collect them. People would rather die than give up their guns.

Illegalizing all guns shouldn't even be a discussion. The 2nd amendment was made so that we (the people) can protect ourselves from a corrupt or oppressive government. Don't ya think that gov. taking our protection away is the exact reason we are allowed to have guns in the first place?

Ya the people shooting cops don't sound like they'd ever want to use their guns illegally at all. A+

If they ever tried to force teachers to carry guns, then that's an issue. When people suggest the idea of teachers being armed, they don't mean all teachers. They mean a select few that would be willing to. And they would need to be trained, have psych evaluations, and more. As to your statement about not shooting someone when there are other means - that's great for police, but if innocent civilians feel that their life is threatened, they're able to use deadly force, and should. I'm for teachers carrying guns, but it has to be done perfectly. There's no room for error when it comes to guns in schools, and I can't trust the government to do that. I still think the main focus needs to be on mental health, rather than gun control.

I never said they wouldn't be using it illegally. I just said some people would shoot cops before giving up their guns, because it's true.

Then how can you believe the state of gun control we have now is fine?

Ik he's hated but anyone know what trump's stance is on this?

Lol. Show me where I said that. Pretty much every single post I've made on this thread has said that I believe there are major issues with gun control today.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/politi...s-nra-orlando/

Depends on which day of the week it is.

sometimes it even changes on an hourly basis.

Oh god ahaha

Cool. Now our citizens are unarmed and the criminals still keep their guns because they don't care about the law. Now they break into your house and take everything with no fear, and shoot you if they want to.

What's stopping them from shooting up unarmed homes now?

I'm not a criminal, but if I was going to consider robbing someone's house I'd take into consideration that there are more guns than there are citizens in the US... That'd probably discourage me just a little bit

I mean I've found it isn't too hard to find out which houses carry firearms. That and if I've already killed someone, their guns are harmless...

Wat? How? Don't think anyone knows I have a gun, not everyone who owns a handgun is a Confederate flag-waving redneck or anything
I feel like saying "it isn't too hard to find out which houses carry firearms" only reinforces the notion that everyone should probably own one

i think that's government/cops job to find it out and try to stop. i still think it's better than just leaving things the way it is and get more casualties every year.

Zetectic, what country do you live in and how old are you?

Wouldn't it make a little more sense to take all legally registered guns away from people and if anyone doesn't hand them over then if any incident happens and that gun is the one used in the incident the owner of that gun will also be charged in some way.(Atleast then it removes majority out of the system-i think many of these mass shooting a from mentally ill people not necessarily gangsters) Plus allow arming the police .

Think from UK same as me, we have rare cases of killings even if illegal guns ARE in circulation here also some allow registered guns for i.e clay pigeon shooting etc but barely any cases of multiple murders.(Guess we get a few now and then i.e Raul Moat? can't really think of many others)

Fantastic. Mind your own ****ing business then. I can barely care about what happens in my own country, least if all alone others'. Quit spouting off about how your tiny-ass country works. The United States is really big and works the way it does because its founders didn't like your stupid country.

When the people of the US want change, they vote for people who will make that change. You cannot vote in the US, so you can't do anything about it. I have 17 triggers and nosy foreigners is one of them.

Lol I like this guy. Straight to the point.

L O L

Ya he's right. A bunch of really grumpy people decided to steal a bunch of ****, including land and religion. Now we continue to tell everyone to **** themselves because we are still kind of grumpy.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ting/86143418/

Not even willing to slap a band aid on a gunshot wound.

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You realize gun security isn't just an American thing, right?

Other countries have different laws and they either work or don't work, just like ours.

So why shut out input from others?

the city next to mine is very large, and very criminally active. ever seen the show drugs inc? there was an episode filmed there. would never go there without packing. have had a gun pulled on me several times at stop lights and such for no reason. the police can't save you if you're dead.