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Crono 01-27-2012 10:19 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 60500)
You mean like every server on Graal PC?

Other than GK no other server has that.

Azrael 01-27-2012 02:39 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 59523)
A long time ago, there was a guy called Azrael. Once he seemed like that he checked a thread which included the suggestion that there should be a new town with eventīs. He promised all the little children all around the world, that there will be a new town with events. Sadly he never mentioned any date which got little kids thinking there will be a new town within 3 weeks. Well this is about 3 months ago and the little kids are still waiting for big daddy to release something.

If he didnīt die yet, he will probably check this thread soon.


Anyway they seem to be fine. If you donīt like them just ignore them

Ran into walls I was incapable of climbing. Had to train.

Then:
http://laxallstars.com/wp-content/up...-IV-07_510.jpg

Now:
http://www.mycitybynight.co.za/wp-co...0/09/rocky.jpg

Do you see the difference? I'm not pulling a fat guy anymore.

L0N3 P4ND4 01-27-2012 03:52 PM

the new admins are trying i know that for a fact......

Floyd Heart* 01-27-2012 03:54 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 62071)
the new admins are trying i know that for a fact......

PSH....... stop lieing we all know you dont like the new prs

L0N3 P4ND4 01-27-2012 03:55 PM

not really but you said they were helping so..............yeah

Floyd Heart* 01-27-2012 04:07 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 62073)
not really but you said they were helping so..............yeah

................ ugh
I dont have to tell you that there doing there job you need to see itt for yourself...

L0N3 P4ND4 01-27-2012 04:12 PM

ok whateve

Floyd Heart* 01-27-2012 04:28 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 62086)
ok whateve

=_=''

Skyzer 01-27-2012 06:11 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 62023)
Other than GK no other server has that.

Yeah... I thought he meant just a building for events.

Maxy 01-27-2012 07:44 PM

Guys we still need active admins and not admins who jsut use the title for popularity.

Azrael 01-27-2012 07:51 PM

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Posted by Maxy (Post 62136)
Guys we still need active admins and not admins who jsut use the title for popularity.

I like to use my title entirely for popularity.

L0N3 P4ND4 01-27-2012 09:12 PM

i wouldnt use mine as populariety... cause im partly popular, somwhat..... but i wasnt hired end of story for me until next year

Crono 01-27-2012 11:07 PM

i use my popularity for my title

:blush:

Terver 01-28-2012 03:50 AM

I use my tilte of Mayor to let every one know I am the Mayor! :)

Nabazazi 01-28-2012 10:49 AM

we should fire all the admins and hire all the noobs in the world like the mason that wrote that form in the intro section
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1665

Emera 02-01-2012 08:45 AM

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Posted by DeimosCog.

Like I said, LAT are a rarity on this server and 15 GPs aren't needed to supplement a single server. Might as well simplify it and deduce it to a lower amount. At the most, 6-8 GPs actually dedicated to their jobs are enough. Of course, each a scheduled shift.

This isn't just a normal Graal server with an average player count. It has more than 500 people online in some periods of the day, so it needs a suitable number of staff to cover questions, issues and other problems players might have.

Skyld 02-01-2012 06:26 PM

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Posted by Agony
iClassic staff are definitely self-indulged, save very few of them. The vast majority of them use PM privacy, and when they don't, they won't respond. Like Higbey once said - "To get an iClassic staff to listen to you, you'll have to hold their family for ransom. Anything less probably won't work.

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Posted by Emera (Post 63681)
This isn't just a normal Graal server with an average player count. It has more than 500 people online in some periods of the day, so it needs a suitable number of staff to cover questions, issues and other problems players might have.

Frankly, it's absolutely no surprise that staff are either not on client or have PM privacy active; they get spammed with absolute **** pretty much constantly. To prove the point, I logged onto Classic iPhone today and sat for a few minutes, and have written here all the PMs I received as players started to realise I was online. Let's reflect on why staff don't like responding to them:
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"I've NEVER Talked To A Admin Before...I Guess Cause Immaahh Noob :("
"will you please hug me"
"Can I Have One?"
"Hi"
"add me"
"FOUND"
"hat"
"U creater of classic"
"Can I have. Cool het"
"Sup whoever u are"
"Lmao my brothers admin too"
"Do u know him?? Kelevra?"
"Hey I havnt seen u on in a while"
"Lol"
"I love you admin"
"Do you have facebook?"
"Wow ur a admin can I have that hat"
"Zyzy"
"Can you give me something"
"Do u get spammed everything u meet someone?"
"Please can you tell me how to make my time say forever because I'm fed up of being judged by my time :/"
"I NEED ADMIN HELP I GOT BANN:(?!"
"Lol can i have hat???skyld plz"
"Hi r u an admin cause I want to be 1 plz"
As long as people keep spamming staff like this, they're going to keep PM privacy on because it takes up so much time to read so much nonsense.

Maxy 02-01-2012 06:47 PM

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Posted by Azrael (Post 62138)
I like to use my title entirely for popularity.

Yah but you do your job at least

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-01-2012 07:51 PM

Wel i cud b gud adiam cos i liek bein betta den u

callimuc 02-02-2012 10:35 PM

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Posted by Skyld (Post 63764)
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"U creater of classic"
"Can I have. Cool het"
"Sup whoever u are"
"Do u get spammed everything u meet someone?"
"Please can you tell me how to make my time say forever because I'm fed up of being judged by my time :/"
"I NEED ADMIN HELP I GOT BANN?!"

They seemed to be the most funny ones for me

Higbey 02-02-2012 11:57 PM

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Posted by Skyld (Post 63764)
Frankly, it's absolutely no surprise that staff are either not on client or have PM privacy active; they get spammed with absolute **** pretty much constantly. To prove the point, I logged onto Classic iPhone today and sat for a few minutes, and have written here all the PMs I received as players started to realise I was online. Let's reflect on why staff don't like responding to them:

As long as people keep spamming staff like this, they're going to keep PM privacy on because it takes up so much time to read so much nonsense.


how about making a system where we can go to enter a report or talk to a staff, players that are doing that crap will get warped out, im sure a system could be made, anything thats better than feedback, where you get banned for life for making a feedback a staffmember doesnt like,

Skyld 02-03-2012 12:05 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 64210)
how about making a system where we can go to enter a report or talk to a staff, players that are doing that crap will get warped out, im sure a system could be made, anything thats better than feedback, where you get banned for life for making a feedback a staffmember doesnt like,

It isn't necessary. Feedback should be used for feedback only, reports should be used for reports only, and any other support should go to the support email address. The feedback and reports are also constantly abused by players, which is why people are so easily banned from sending irrelevant messages through feedback. If you don't want to be banned from feedback, don't abuse feedback. Simple.

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Posted by callimuc (Post 64187)
They seemed to be the most funny ones for me

Unfortunately they stop being funny when you have 300 unread variations of these. :(

Higbey 02-03-2012 12:13 AM

I find feedbacking about abuse ends up getting you banned from feedback, they need to change it so banning someone from feedback lasts two weeks, so its not permanent, players might make a spam feedback once when they are new or angry, then later on have to use feedback but cant because of that one mistake.

Pazx 02-03-2012 01:01 AM

vee aye pee hig bee

Higbey 02-03-2012 01:35 AM

XOR globally banned me from all of graal before VIP came out. I dont really know all about it.

reyalS 02-03-2012 03:10 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 64250)
XOR globally banned me from all of graal before VIP came out.

So you're not banned anymore? :0

Higbey 02-03-2012 03:37 AM

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Posted by reyalS

So you're not banned anymore? :0

I meant that I was banned before I could have ever been able to use VIP so I never learned you could use it to bypass a feedback ban like he was hinting.

reyalS 02-03-2012 04:21 AM

ahh

Pazx 02-03-2012 07:48 AM

I'm actually not entirely sure if VIP allows you to bypass a feedback ban, but account transfers do.

Godzilla 02-03-2012 08:16 PM

@Sklyd, while spam is annoying, some people actually need help and when there's no one there to do it it gets pretty annoying. it's the GP's job to go through this spam and pick out important messages. for example, the guy complaining about his hours. you could have sent him a message back telling him how to hide them.

the GP's should leave it open, read all messages, if theyre spam then delete them if not then reply. honestly it gets pretty annoying when you have a legit question about VIP, or guilds, or something and theres no staff available to answer them. theres really not too many glitchers at the moment, and i dont see anything else the GP's can be doing. so, why not have them spend some time helping people? and ive seen no effort on the side of the staff to prevent this spam. you could try sending out a mass message telling players to only PM staff members if they have a issue, question, or something important to say, and not ask to be an admin, a hug, a hat, or anything along those lines since those requests will not be met, and persistence in asking staff will lead in a block by the respective staff member.

Yephenpeace 02-03-2012 08:28 PM

Godzilla, i kind of agree with you, but Skyld has other responsibilities as far as i'm concerned. I think GPs should keep friends only pms off, unless they are feel like they're being spammed. However, until we've witnessed the type of spam they recieve, there isn't much validity in what we're saying.

Godzilla 02-03-2012 10:55 PM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 64466)
Godzilla, i kind of agree with you, but Skyld has other responsibilities as far as i'm concerned. I think GPs should keep friends only pms off, unless they are feel like they're being spammed. However, until we've witnessed the type of spam they recieve, there isn't much validity in what we're saying.

well yeah of course people who are working and creating new content dont need the distraction and should keep it off. but GP's should definitely be there ready to help.

and while the spam might not be "can i b admin" most people who have been in major guilds have seen a lot of spam. its annoying, but you have to go through it and read some so you dont miss anything important. even then i doubt staff spam is as bad as some of the spam guild chat spam in big guilds.

iHot 02-03-2012 11:32 PM

Skyld is important we should be focusing our attention on the USELESS gps they are hiring. Make them (or some) uploaders which we NEED! An admin once said that GP's get hired when playercount increases not decreases!

L0N3 P4ND4 02-04-2012 05:39 AM

Stop writing novels!

BurgerBatman 02-04-2012 10:42 AM

Just to let you guys know: There are timezones, and GP's work in diffrent timezones. thats a reason for more gps. and by the way, if there were no admins, who would you ask for help? like, who would you ask for help when you're hacked? I would say, enjoy the game. play by the rules and thats all. Admins are here to help the community. You can always pm an admin for help since no one has pms for friends only on.

Godzilla 02-04-2012 04:52 PM

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Posted by BurgerBatman (Post 64665)
Just to let you guys know: There are timezones, and GP's work in diffrent timezones. thats a reason for more gps. and by the way, if there were no admins, who would you ask for help? like, who would you ask for help when you're hacked? I would say, enjoy the game. play by the rules and thats all. Admins are here to help the community. You can always pm an admin for help since no one has pms for friends only on.

Lol wut?

"if there were no admins, who would you ask for help?"
The players like we have to now since the admins don't respond

"admins are here to help the community. You can always pm an admin for help since no one has pms for friends only on"
Lol this is just not true. Almost every admin had pms for friends only on. That's the problem. When players need help there's no one there to do it. People have to ask other players a lot of whom don't know, or in some cases might not be able to help with your problem. They need to leave it open, sift through the spam, so that they can help anyone that truely needs it.

Maxy 02-04-2012 05:11 PM

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Posted by BurgerBatman (Post 64665)
You can always pm an admin for help since no one has pms for friends only on.

Lies, I pmed 4 today and guess how many had friends only on 4

BurgerBatman 02-04-2012 08:14 PM

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Posted by Godzilla (Post 64707)
Lol wut?

"if there were no admins, who would you ask for help?"
The players like we have to now since the admins don't respond

"admins are here to help the community. You can always pm an admin for help since no one has pms for friends only on"
Lol this is just not true. Almost every admin had pms for friends only on. That's the problem. When players need help there's no one there to do it. People have to ask other players a lot of whom don't know, or in some cases might not be able to help with your problem. They need to leave it open, sift through the spam, so that they can help anyone that truely needs it.

Admins do respond to questions, they all need to have pms for friends only off.
If you pm them with "Hey dude, whatsup?" no, ofcourse you won't get any reply. They do answer to questions, If i'm online, and someone pms me I reply, and im sure all the other admins do to. Again, if you come with a simple "Hi" you won't get a reply. And yes,most of us had pms for friends only on, but now none of the gp's have pms for friends only on. GFX,Scripters and LATS are development admins. We can't Always respond to questions due the work we have to do.

Now i hope you and the rest understand :)

Scaal 02-04-2012 08:22 PM

try pming me, i dont have friends only on. And i will respond if it isnt something stupid like:
hi mr adiam can me has a hat?? If you dont respond that means yes!
(yes someone did pm me something along the lines of that once)


and for those people who say:
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theres really not too many glitchers at the moment, and i dont see anything else the GP's can be doing
theres not many glitchers because us gps try our hardest to get rid of them. Its also not just glitchers, theres hackers, creepy people asking for nude photos, and people who have guild pictures that haunt me in my sleep... theres lots that we can be doing, but were not going to go around asking every player if they have a question.

players can also contact us by email if they need to.

iHot 02-05-2012 12:19 AM

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Posted by BurgerBatman (Post 64665)
and by the way, if there were no admins, who would you ask for help?

Hahahahaha!! Help more than half of them have pms from friends only. The only way to get questions answered (legit ones) is if a staff member pops onto a wall, but even then your question is blocked by a massive wall of text saying CAN I BE ADMIN? or DRAG/ADD ME! therefore your question shall never be answered.

And they all lived happily ever after...
The end.

eric 02-05-2012 04:07 PM

admins r used for events not for killing when theyre invunrable

Kc Ramone 02-05-2012 05:34 PM

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Posted by Agony (Post 59466)
iClassic staff are definitely self-indulged, save very few of them. The vast majority of them use PM privacy, and when they don't, they won't respond. Like Higbey once said - "To get an iClassic staff to listen to you, you'll have to hold their family for ransom. Anything less probably won't work.

That's not true xD In fact, i'm positive that they are listening and also active. I've noticed within these past few days that it's like a hacker pops out of nowhere with invulnerability on, i'd report and it didnt even pass a minute before he was -popped-. They are there. They're just shy. :) Except for a few occasionally, like Xor, Elly, Archon, ect. You catch my drift :3

DeimosCog. 02-05-2012 11:25 PM

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Posted by Godzilla (Post 60712)
I think the biggest problem is that most of the PC players who actually know what they're doing either don't want anything to do with these projects or just are busy on another server. Just the very way the staff runs around screams arrogance. Staff boots, gold names, the health, pm block (most of them at least), etc. look at the classic PC staff. Theyre players except they develope and ban people. By that I mean most of the time theyre just walking around without boots unless absolutely necessary, te only way you know someone is an admin is from a tag in their name, THEY ANSWER ALL PMS ALMOST IMMEDIATLY AND ARE WILLING TO HELP YOU IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM! Honestly it's so weird going on classic PC asking the MANAGER for help and immediatly getting an answer, then coming here and asking about 5 different GPs without getting any message back. Granted the larger player count makes things harder but honestly the staff need to start answering things more. When I was having problems with my VIP and tried to contact a staff member I couldn't get anything. Multiple staff members. GPs who probably have nothing better to do. When I saw a little bug in the castle quest in classic pc Thor was right there helping me and trying to fix it. The crime rate in iclassic at least has dropped significantly and whenever you report someone for glitching or whatever it may be no ones there even if there are a lot of staff members on. What are they even doing lol. Playing hide and seek and running around showing off? Another thing: whens the last time you've seen a GP walking around without staff boots? They rub around with all this stuff to try and show people how cool they are and make themselves think they're better than everyone else. I honestly think I may have helped more new players in the last month I've been back than some staff members.

Bravo, I tip my hat to you. Our guild Ventrue has a few members in charge of DEV on PC Classic :). But I am going to disagree PC originated players not wanting to help because surely, a few of them may not want to contend and help this "server", several PC players are openly willingly supporting changes, for example Rufus who brought up ideas like opening up non-pk areas and the GST

GotenGraal 02-06-2012 01:49 AM

Too many useless admins.
 
People should not get admin because there friends with an admin. It's completely unfair. Ex. Lady gaga because she is friends with nyn she got admin yet she is very inactive. On once every 10 days for 5 mins. Find admins who can do there job and also admins that don't make 1k guilds that just makes it harder for the average graalian to succeed with his guild.

Skyzer 02-06-2012 10:37 PM

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Drag me onto a wall so I can screenshot it and get you fired.
Please.

Godzilla 02-07-2012 02:30 AM

people theyve hired: NYN, ellybelly, lady gaga, etc.
why: friends with admins

people they havnt hired: ifuzzy(who applied over a year ago)
past experience: was a moderator on runescape, beta tested many iphone and PC games, had played iclassic since it first came out, was a talented LAT, who worked for GK iphone for a while. but he wasnt hired because he didnt know a lot of admins.

Skyzer 02-07-2012 05:33 AM

Was a talented LAT but not anymore, I guess.

Jatz 02-07-2012 07:18 AM

Meanwhile on iEra..

No staff have pms from friends only on. Infact pms from friends only is disabled for PRs.
Skyld was right we do get a ton of spam, but its the PRs job to read it. Our whole team is dedicated to answering PMs, and if the aren't, they arent considered to be completing their job. The best way to get help on iera is through feedback, if not email [email protected]. If a PR doesnt reply straight away, be patient as we get hundreds of PMs a minute.


Although, if your pm is just spam, stop whining if no-one responds.

Skyzer 02-07-2012 07:42 AM

That's why I never apply for GP, FAQ, PR, GC/ET. Can't stand little ******s bugging me. I'll stick with being a developer, and keep ignoring everyone PMing me to help them with quests.

Jatz 02-07-2012 07:59 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 65630)
That's why I never apply for GP, FAQ, PR, GC/ET. Can't stand little ******s bugging me. I'll stick with being a developer, and keep ignoring everyone PMing me to help them with quests.

A wise decision mate.


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