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Vicipower 03-15-2016 06:12 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684812)
@Vici: I'm questioning why are events hosted less than it was before. Is there an issue with that curiosity? In addition, I am well aware my chances of getting into one are very slim (which is why I have the notification turned off). Same applies for others but those chances can be increased with events hosted more frequently.

You have notifications off but wonder why admins in different timezones than you, host when they want and not when you're online? What kind of drugs are you on lmao

No theres absolutely no issue with curiosity buddy and I never said so as I believe, though it seems really weird that you apperently know all of the friends of a staff member and write down the exact same time when they host, every single day.
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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684730)
Just realized admins don't host in the morning or afternoons. They host at 12am-5am. Less players but more of their friends are on.

And just for your info, the admins that host by far the most imo and by what I've seen so far, are probably Milo and Raina.
Like these guys really host a lot and seem quite nice.

Milo 03-15-2016 06:43 PM

We do try to host events more often but there are limitations such as time zones which prevent us from hosting when you expect us to. As for events being held around 12-5am, most of us who are awake in the afternoon or late evening might have other matters to attend to and I do host events around 10am-1pm for those who happen to live somewhere in America or similar countries with very different timings compared to Asia.

Bryan* 03-15-2016 06:51 PM

@Vici: Once again if you can read what I posted, the friends statement wasn't necessary (must I resize/bold that specific line for you?). It might be you that's on a substance because I haven't posted every day on this thread which admin hosted what and only mentioned one example, "Raina hosting Cliff Climber around 2am-3am", which isn't an exact time. To answer your question, I turned it on yesterday and 3-4 events occurred due to the fact players have messaged me or said on guild chat "Events happen late passed 12am". A curiosity that was answered. Don't know what's the issue here, I'm just requesting folks to host more frequently if they can.

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Its all really what I initially posted that admins have priorities, circumstances, or time constraints that prevents them from doing an event or multiple events. I'm well aware we have a diverse group of staff members and they reside in different countries. The idea of how Events can be improved/renovated can still be an option. Doesn't have to happen sooner but later hopefully.

Vicipower 03-15-2016 07:07 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684831)
@Vici: Once again if you can read what I posted, the friends statement wasn't necessary (must I resize/bold that specific line for you?). It might be you that's on a substance because I haven't posted every day on this thread which admin hosted what and only mentioned one example, "Raina hosting Cliff Climber around 2am-3am", which isn't an exact time. To answer your question, I turned it on yesterday and 3-4 events occurred due to the fact players have messaged me or said on guild chat "Events happen late passed 12am". A curiosity that was answered. Don't know what's the issue here, I'm just requesting folks to host more frequently if they can.

Spoiler
Its all really what I initially posted that admins have priorities, circumstances, or time constraints that prevents them from doing an event or multiple events. I'm well aware we have a diverse group of staff members and they reside in different countries. The idea of how Events can be improved/renovated can still be an option. Doesn't have to happen sooner but later hopefully.

So you know that admins have their own lifes but you still request them to host more
yeah ok seems fair

Thallen 03-15-2016 07:41 PM

You're in here arguing with a bunch of social guild warriors and competitive chatters, dunno why you're putting yourself through this
No sense in even trying to make a case to people who have thousands of hours and little to no gameplay participation or experience

"I have a life, I can only host 1 event every week" is probably the stupidest justification though
Doesn't matter to me when events are hosted, but doesn't make sense to me that they're hosted so infrequently

Milo 03-15-2016 07:55 PM

Well,if you guys would like it, I could try to host more e.g. one per day?

Zetectic 03-15-2016 08:00 PM

dw fulgores gonna host at least 5 a day in the future.

Yog 03-15-2016 08:01 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 684846)
"I have a life, I can only host 1 event every week" is probably the stupidest justification though
Doesn't matter to me when events are hosted, but doesn't make sense to me that they're hosted so infrequently

The argument isn't that events aren't hosted because GPs have a life, but that they can't be expected to host 24/7, and just because its a specific time a day means they are trying to get their friends to win doesn't make much sense.

Thallen 03-15-2016 08:11 PM

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me to ask GPs to host an event a day, takes like 10 minutes and we have how many GPs total?

Milo 03-15-2016 08:15 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 684859)
Doesn't seem unreasonable to me to ask GPs to host an event a day, takes like 10 minutes and we have how many GPs total?

The amount of time an event takes can vary depending on which event it is and the number of players. I have been trying to host one per day or at least one every two days but they probably happened to be hosted while you guys were offline or maybe afk. And no, I don't think that is an unreasonable request either.

Feorth 03-15-2016 08:16 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 684859)
Doesn't seem unreasonable to me to ask GPs to host an event a day, takes like 10 minutes and we have how many GPs total?

That would be the ideal, but we have a few rules regarding events. We can't host one unless there's at least two more GPs online so the reports don't go unchecked, uploads also can't stop being reviewed, those are our priorities.

Milo 03-15-2016 08:18 PM

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Posted by Feorth (Post 684866)
That would be the ideal, but we have a few rules regarding events. We can't host one unless there's at least two more GPs online so the reports don't go unchecked, uploads also can't stop being reviewed, those are our priorities.

what feorth said lol but we could try :)

Count 03-15-2016 08:18 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 684859)
Doesn't seem unreasonable to me to ask GPs to host an event a day, takes like 10 minutes and we have how many GPs total?

i asked once and the person i asked said there were some restrictions that made it a little harder than just hosting the event

edit: feorth clarified this above

i dont really understand how this happened though, people always say that GPs are in it for the fame, and imo hosting events was the quickest way there. why not host then? maybe most of the current gps aren't in it for the graal fame?

Pazxi 03-15-2016 10:27 PM

This is my take on events.

I've been playing Graal Classic on and off since 2009. I have never really cared all that much about events but it's clear that others do. Over the years I have seen events change and evolve, mostly for the worse but all the changes have been justified. Something that seems very apparent though is that there aren't enough staff members, or there aren't enough members that aren't from the US. Seeing as though the majority of players are from the US, it would make sense to have a lot of US staff but even at 3am (US time), there are still 2,000 players on. Those players, I would imagine, are mostly from other countries.

Between approving uploads, actually policing and hosting events, there just doesn't seem to be enough staff. Now I am in no way saying that the staff isn't doing their jobs or that they are being lazy etc, I'm saying there should be more staff to support the growing population of Graal. It would also take some of the work load off of the staff as a whole.

Back to events. Having some sort of bot or event house is a great idea, or even a schedule for when events are to be held so players know what's going on. Also, the queue system may be the best option in terms of who gets to participate in events, but I personally have yet to take part in an event in over 3 months, and I have entered the queue for most likely the majority of events. I don't really care about being in an event really, just the fact that I have yet to be chosen is odd though. It's funny that as I wrote this, an event was held...

Nanner 03-15-2016 10:39 PM

ever since the event que's happened, I only got into 2 events. Shame on u classic. What's stopping you guys from making an Event house?? Cuz u want to be 'unique' compared to other servers .-. ?

GotenGraal 03-15-2016 10:41 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 684925)
ever since the event que's happened, I only got into 2 events. Shame on u classic. What's stopping you guys from making an Event house?? Cuz u want to be 'unique' compared to other servers .-. ?

Because apparently ******s complained that the same people win every time so now your chances of getting into an event (which are rarely ever even hosted anymore) is like 1%

Yog 03-15-2016 11:21 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 684925)
ever since the event que's happened, I only got into 2 events. Shame on u classic. What's stopping you guys from making an Event house?? Cuz u want to be 'unique' compared to other servers .-. ?

Because too many people in one area can crash the npc server. It's the primary reason why event doors are sparingly used.

Aguzo 03-15-2016 11:24 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 684936)
too many people in one area can crash the npc server.

Is that statement actually true? I've never seen it happen. Maybe some lag, but I've never seen the server crash from this.

SomeGuy 03-15-2016 11:24 PM

Think it's time for Colin to put an end to this chaos.

Yog 03-15-2016 11:25 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 684941)
Is that statement actually true?

Anyone remember the time Marshmallow placed a warper on the bridge to swamp?

Aguzo 03-15-2016 11:27 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 684944)
Anyone remember the time Marshmallow placed a warper on the bridge to swamp?

No idea who that is... and I was not on to see that one.

Distorted_P2P 03-15-2016 11:29 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 682958)
Sorry but the event system just stops the same people from getting into the events over and over. It says something when the major complaint is "I never get into events again" because they were so used to getting into it so much. The events were almost exclusively for a small group of players and imo that seems way less fair.

To say that's what killed events is pretty stupid.

I think they should just host events more often, the reason that it was so exclusive was because few players knew the map, the luck system is pretty poorly done but I suppose it's pretty effective with it's main purpose. Events should be hosted more oftenly though, they're almost unheard of now, I've seen about one event in the past year.

& inb4 Colin closes

Aguzo 03-15-2016 11:31 PM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 684947)
I think they should just host events more often, the reason that it was so exclusive was because few players knew the map, the luck system is pretty poorly done but I suppose it's pretty effective with it's main purpose. Events should be hosted more oftenly though, they're almost unheard of now, I've seen about one event in the past year.

They wouldn't need a person to host if they were just done automatically.
With a currency instead of hats as prizes, then players can choose what they want to buy, after winning enough events.

Yog 03-15-2016 11:33 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 684946)
No idea who that is... and I was not on to see that one.

The NPC Server crashed. I believe there was a thread about the server being down. Someone posted that Marshmallow had just placed a warper prior to it.

Aguzo 03-15-2016 11:35 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 684949)
The NPC Server crashed. I believe there was a thread about the server being down. Someone posted that Marshmallow had just placed a warper prior to it.

Why would that person place a warper in the first place, when this is a known issue?
Test or something?

Yog 03-15-2016 11:40 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 684952)
Why would that person place a warper in the first place, when this is a known issue?
Test or something?

He was new. I just assumed he wasn't trained properly, or at all.

TD* 03-16-2016 02:27 AM

People should hold themselves accountable to their failures. During my tenure as GP, I failed my responsibility as a host, and for that I apologize. It is worth noting that the following is not reflective of any past or current staff, nor do I believe all staff owe an apology. As a GP, you have a primary duty of providing a fair and safe environment to the players. When hosting, you are neglecting that duty in exchange of general player welfare. It is easy to fall into the misconception that events last merely a dozen minutes; factor in the sometimes 500 messages a staff would receives and that couple of minutes turns into an hour or two long ordeal. Knowing the tenuous player/staff relationship and the community's desire for more present staff, I take pride in knowing that I answered to my best of my ability every question I received however tempting the "delete all messages" button appeared. Factor in that I needed to devote considerable more time into responding to reports, hosting events took a toll on my primary tasks and my social life. Due to this, I chose to cut down on the hosting , especially during the last month's I was staff, and focus on reports. In the end I sacrificed fun for security. To all event fans between 2013 and 2015, I am sorry. TeeDee* (Would separate this into paragraphs if my phone would let me)

Count 03-16-2016 06:55 AM

I've seen at least five events hosted today in the time I've been on, and I have not been on all that much today.


edit: 100th post, id like 2 thank the academy

Zetectic 03-17-2016 12:07 AM

after this thread, i see more events being hosted daily

Noxious 03-17-2016 02:19 AM

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Posted by Count (Post 685049)
I've seen at least five events hosted today in the time I've been on, and I have not been on all that much today.

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 685161)
after this thread, i see more events being hosted daily

I want to say it's only because of St. Patrick's Day and the limited edition admin hat that is being given away. Once the holiday passes they won't be able to host for that hat anymore, so they are probably just trying to give it out to as many people as possible before then.

Marshmallow 03-17-2016 04:35 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 684941)
Is that statement actually true? I've never seen it happen. Maybe some lag, but I've never seen the server crash from this.

Nope, that is true.


Accidentally did it once...not goood.

Milo 03-17-2016 04:36 AM

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Posted by Noxious (Post 685244)
I want to say it's only because of St. Patrick's Day and the limited edition admin hat that is being given away. Once the holiday passes they won't be able to host for that hat anymore, so they are probably just trying to give it out to as many people as possible before then.

Yes, we are doing more recently for St. Patrick's Day but I will be trying to host more in the future up to 1-2 events daily depending on the conditions.

Marshmallow 03-17-2016 04:51 AM

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Posted by Milo (Post 685361)
Yes, we are doing more recently for St. Patrick's Day but I will be trying to host more in the future up to 1-2 events daily depending on the conditions.

Same :>

Reemas 03-17-2016 07:19 AM

Hello all! Not sure if anyone has stated this already but why not make events similar to activities such as Crab Chance in Destiny or Archery in Onnet Town? I think this way players will get the chance to play events whenever they want. The prizes should be similar to the prizes from said events. I think hosting events is a thing of the past and really unecessary. Btw, when is Capture the Flag gonna make a comeback? lol

Aguzo 03-17-2016 07:46 AM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 685411)
Hello all! Not sure if anyone has stated this already but why not make events similar to activities such as Crab Chance in Destiny or Archery in Onnet Town? I think this way players will get the chance to play events whenever they want. The prizes should be similar to the prizes from said events. I think hosting events is a thing of the past and really unecessary. Btw, when is Capture the Flag gonna make a comeback? lol

What do you mean? A super long queue?

Areo 03-17-2016 07:50 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 685420)
What do you mean? A super long queue?

By the way, didn't you win an event yesterday?

Aguzo 03-17-2016 07:51 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 685423)
By the way, didn't you win an event yesterday?

A few hours ago yeah. I got into 3 events today, I think. So 3 out of 5-6.
1 normal spider pit, 1 super spider pit. 2 in a row.
Then at night, cliff climber.

Reemas 03-17-2016 08:02 AM

Oh and in addition, while I was admin, I used to purposefully place multiple warps just so the same players never made it to an event. I loved it. I loved knowing how much better I was than any repeating player. Think you could make it to my event again? Think again punk. lol

It was so much fun. Admins just need to stop being lazy and place more warps, which I know, sadly do not exist anymore. It was just a strategy that worked pretty nice for me. Those were the good ol days lmao

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 685420)
What do you mean? A super long queue?

Sure, I guess. Something like that. I was thinking placing events in event buildings all around graal. Players would get queued similar to how spars are. This would keep the players mixed. There wouldnt be "teams". The prizes should be kept simple like, gralats or whatever. No more hats. If there are to be events, they should strictly be for new areas or buildings opening.

Pharaoh 03-17-2016 11:46 AM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 685425)
Oh and in addition, while I was admin, I used to purposefully place multiple warps just so the same players never made it to an event. I loved it. I loved knowing how much better I was than any repeating player. Think you could make it to my event again? Think again punk. lol

It was so much fun. Admins just need to stop being lazy and place more warps, which I know, sadly do not exist anymore. It was just a strategy that worked pretty nice for me. Those were the good ol days lmao



Sure, I guess. Something like that. I was thinking placing events in event buildings all around graal. Players would get queued similar to how spars are. This would keep the players mixed. There wouldnt be "teams". The prizes should be kept simple like, gralats or whatever. No more hats. If there are to be events, they should strictly be for new areas or buildings opening.

If you had bothered to read previous posts you would know why warpers are rarely used. It isn't done out of lazyness... Moreover, you were staff? Must not have been long lol.

Milo 03-17-2016 12:23 PM

lol don't mess with the mummy

Reemas 03-17-2016 01:50 PM

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Posted by Pharaoh (Post 685438)
If you had bothered to read previous posts you would know why warpers are rarely used. It isn't done out of lazyness... Moreover, you were staff? Must not have been long lol.

Actually, I was part of the staff team for over 2 years.

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Posted by Pharaoh (Post 685438)
If you had bothered to read previous posts you would know why warpers are rarely used. It isn't done out of lazyness... Moreover, you were staff? Must not have been long lol.

Also, funny you would even say such a thing being admin. Im surprised you're still part of staff being so rude and openly cruel to players. Being admin does not give you that right. I worked with you. Admins are just too scared now to try anything new for events. Try to actually be creative and keep the interest of players. Now, I only say this for events. Thats how I used to admin. I know things are different now.

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:09 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 685425)
Oh and in addition, while I was admin, I used to purposefully place multiple warps just so the same players never made it to an event. I loved it. I loved knowing how much better I was than any repeating player. Think you could make it to my event again? Think again punk. lol

It was so much fun. Admins just need to stop being lazy and place more warps, which I know, sadly do not exist anymore. It was just a strategy that worked pretty nice for me. Those were the good ol days lmao

Then we figured a way to beat past that obstacle, one of us would enter the warped and if it wasn't the correct one, we would just summon ourselves back and try the other ;D ezpz lemonsqzy

Reemas 03-17-2016 02:20 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685458)
Then we figured a way to beat past that obstacle, one of us would enter the warped and if it wasn't the correct one, we would just summon ourselves back and try the other ;D ezpz lemonsqzy

Yea, I know but it was still fun lol

Milo 03-17-2016 02:47 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 685452)
Actually, I was part of the staff team for over 2 years.



Also, funny you would even say such a thing being admin. Im surprised you're still part of staff being so rude and openly cruel to players. Being admin does not give you that right. I worked with you. Admins are just too scared now to try anything new for events. Try to actually be creative and keep the interest of players. Now, I only say this for events. Thats how I used to admin. I know things are different now.

If you were an admin then you should know admins are players too. Being rude and openly cruel isn't a right, it's a choice, and if you're criticizing that one remark pharaoh made, why don't you criticize the remark you made that indirectly insults all admins or the countless insulting messages other players may make. You may have been in the team last time but you certainly aren't now and as you said, things have changed. There are limitations to what we can do and as much as we would like to be 'creative' there are conditions as well.

Reemas 03-17-2016 03:12 PM

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Posted by Milo (Post 685464)
If you were an admin then you should know admins are players too. Being rude and openly cruel isn't a right, it's a choice, and if you're criticizing that one remark pharaoh made, why don't you criticize the remark you made that indirectly insults all admins or the countless insulting messages other players may make. You may have been in the team last time but you certainly aren't now and as you said, things have changed. There are limitations to what we can do and as much as we would like to be 'creative' there are conditions as well.

I have seen other posts on here on other threads by Pharoah, which I am not going to go into. Also, are you seriuosly pointing out that admins are being unprofessional? I was under the impression that criticizing was not supposed to be part of being admin. Admins are supposed to be support staff. This is the type of power abuse admins take advantage of. Its sick to see staff standing up for other staff. Think its ok to abuse powers. Dont recall that as part of the job.

Arsenal 03-17-2016 03:53 PM

The event system as of now is stupid. Basically you have a 1/2000 chance of getting queued. I don't want to join a queue 2000 times to only be queued once. Especially because events are scarce af now.

LiA 03-17-2016 04:56 PM

Can they bring back Capture the flag(or whatever it's called), and Dodge? Those were one of the the nicest events hosted.

Nanner 03-17-2016 05:18 PM

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Posted by LiA (Post 685480)
Can they bring back Capture the flag(or whatever it's called), and Dodge? Those were one of the the nicest events hosted.

Do you mean Team Fort? And Dodge is the besttt. And Survivor and ice race were some of my favs

LiA 03-17-2016 05:26 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685486)
Do you mean Team Fort?

Yeah, it was team fort! Well since they're doing events again, I would like to see some of the old events back also... as long as it's not sumo. :smile:

Nanner 03-17-2016 05:36 PM

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Posted by LiA (Post 685491)
Yeah, it was team fort! Well since they're doing events again, I would like to see some of the old events back also... as long as it's not sumo. :smile:

Whaaaat?! Sumo is like one of the best ones. Why wouldn't u like that, cuz people can team?


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