as someone who's leading a tower guild rn...
gst is harder.

I'm happy that you learned a new word today, but you're using it incorrectly.

Dude u started facebook guilds while I was towering with the big boys on the real server. You aren't even known as good in the towering community you clown. And what reasoning do I need? I own a guild with 2,000 hours and 1 gst win. What do I need to explain from that? The Gst win took several tries and was overall much harder to achieve. My opinion is very valid because I've achieved both. How can you even say i'm biased lol

Here's the main difference: any idiot can get 1k, especially nowdays. Any idiot cannot just go out and win a gst.

But you won a GST.

Ok that was fuel to the fire. No need to argue when no one elseis putting reason behind theirs. PS. @whatever the dude who's mad I said ignoranf, I know what ignorant means, and it was used correctly. :) I find it funny some people take my post so seriously as if I have the final word. I don't even play classic anymore, haha. I just gave my opinion. And @Goten, I never said I was a towering legend lol. I said I did tower, because I did, a lot. I started on iPhone server with Gold. We got over 100 hrs (and we struggled a hell of a lot because as I said, we weren't a part of those hat chasers that go from 1k to 1k (Yea I just used a double parenthesis. We later jumped 1k to 1k once we got our name/ability out, but at the beginning, we didn't :))) <- I think that closes all my parenthesis. I'm above caring what the community thinks of me, or lack-thereof. However, you pretend like I only led guilds on FB server, which isn't the case at all. I led multipke guilds on iPhone server too. I used the FB server to build up my loyal members who stuck with me through multiple guilds, just like the guilds do now and have been doing for years. As I said, it's easy to get 1k when you just get hat chasing members who hop from guild to guild. For a beginner guild to start up and achieve 1k without those guild hopping members is a lot harder. That's a whole different discussion for how the towering system should be improved. Also if you read my first post, I recommended changing the GST reward entirely so it's unique. I also never once said towering is easier than winning the GST. In fact I said they cannot be compared. I also said that allowing custom hats for winning the GST would just devalue that even more. They're already so common because of guild hopping. Why couldn't there be a unique sword that is actually equipped when you walk as the prize, or something different? I know classic likes to keep it simple, but if they were to change the prize from a staff-made hat, it shouldn't be changed to a custom-made hat.

no lel gst system can not be played sry budy

Lmao, no one asked you for your life story.

Custom swords already exist, not sure if you're aware of that.

You're clearly not understanding what I said. No one asked you if you cared about my life story. I'll dumb it down for you. A custom sword that can be equipped. It would be like a melee from any other server. It could then be bigger, be put on the player's back, maybe even have an aura or leave an aura for a few seconds on a player it hits. Who knows. Dumbed down enough for ya? I'm trying to not make people look foolish but others make it so difficult.

IDK what this guy is even talking about, the harder thing to accomplish should have the better reward

/topic

Gross

Isn't this thread only about GST? Other people (I didn't read all the posts here so idk who) brought towering into this. You're basically suggesting towering to 1k shouldn't have a custom hat reward then. I'm focusing on GST, rather than towering, as some people seem to be focusing on.

ur gross.

Maybe GST hats should work like 1k hat. After the winners are chosen they can design their own hat and submit it for approval. The prize for second and third places would need to be changed though.

I do not agree on changing a hat that has already been uploaded to the server.

:(.

When did I ever say this?? The topic of uploading your custom hat for winning the GST and 1k towering is 100% related because that's the prize you get for towering, which is less difficult and prestigious than winning a GST. The prize should be the same, if anything.

You're constantly talking about unique swords and items that literally no sparrer who has a chance of winning the GST will ever care about or use. How is it fair to force us to compete for something that we don't even want? How does this "devalue" towering or whatever you're talking about?

Im just happy they even take the time to make us hats.

Winning a GST=harder than getting 1k. Better reward for harder thing. People want GST prize to be custom hat. If the prize is better, then the 1k prize would have to be different.

Idk why you think no one would use a real custom sword. It would be used the same as any normal sword except it's equipped as your sword and is custom-made to whatever (within reason obviously) size, shape, effect, etc. you want. I think people would find that cooler because it's actually useful, rather than a hat that there's thousands of in-game already, which is useless, and in all honesty most people stop wearing after the first few weeks.

Never said I cared, all I said was that no one asked for your life story.


Great idea, it's not like other custom swords can be equipped. I'm sure this idea of yours will change everything. Good job.


Yeah, because its not like you can make custom swords already. Am I right?



So, just a glorified shield? Great idea, its truly remarkable, bravo!

So childish it's cute. No one asked if you cared about my life story either. You obviously didn't get my comeback. Can't really argue with clueless people, though, so I'll let that part go. Swords are pretty limited. You can make the GFX different, but go see the melees on iZone and you'll see how different a true custom sword can be from the player-uploaded custom swords. :)

Yeah, your comeback was absolutely genius. I'm pretty sure only someone as intelligent as yourself can come up with such a witty response. Once again I applaud you and your magnificence. You got me. Bravo sir, bravo.

Great idea, I hope the staff are paying attention to you good sir. Having custom sword uploads would be absolutely amazing, truly revolutionary. I'm sure people would even pay a fair amount of gralats to have custom ones uploaded.

GL uploading this as a custom sword. If you do, I'll tell you that I was wrong. :)
http://i.imgur.com/Jaj1xeY.jpeg
http://imgur.com/T6ospyC.jpeg

I'm now convinced you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. That sword idea you're talking about will not be used by 98% of the people who would win it. You're talking to two people who won GSTs very recently and we're saying we wouldn't, I can guarantee you others who have a chance of winning wouldn't want that stupid idea as a prize either. What the hell are you even talking about? I can upload any sword I want any time I want why would I need some useless tool to make a custom sword when I can open paint and make one of my very own? This is not zone. Nobody wants that ****. I don't wanna be mean but that idea is just awful. 0/10.

This goes back to the idea of people who will never win the GST commenting on what prizes we should get for it. It doesn't make any sense. We don't want these ugly hats, those stupid items this guy is mentioning or any of that. It's not like we're asking you to give us staff powers for a day, it's a pretty reasonable request to get a custom upload for winning first place in the hardest thing to achieve on this server.

Okay, ill be honest I was being sarcastic before. But even proposing that a sword like that should be a prize is dumb af.

Lol. As if you need to win the GST to know what you would like as the prize. I don't see how you think that's useless while a hat isn't. This doesn't provide more use, but it's a lot more useful than a hat. I can go to paint and make a hat myself too.

Wtf? Yeah, people who have won GSTs before have absolutely no idea what they want as their prize. Good one, genius.

was really a minor suggestion in a flood of words and that one sentence was targeted. I only defended it because it was attacked and represented as something else. Was merely an idea of many.

Damn. I never knew I would just be so passionately attacked by many simply because I disliked the idea of a custom hat for GST prize. There's all different sorts of ideas that could be come up with. I was just thinking in relation to GST since it involves PK. Idk, though. If someone had a fairly big sword that could be equipped and used, rather than just slashed, I would think they would get hella spam about it. I just see all the talk about how 1k hats are given so much because of the towering system right now that they aren't anywhere near as valuable as they were before. And anything I can suggest that will prevent another anbu mask from being uploaded is a win in my books. :P

Again, you're not even reading what I'm saying. I said you don't need to have won a GST to know what prize you would want. I didn't say that GST winners have no clue what they want. Get your head out of your butt.

http://i.imgur.com/FAX9w60.png?1

Cool so someone can do the pyrat quest one time and virtually have the exact same prize as me for winning the GST.
You aren't being attacked for believing there shouldn't be a custom hat for GST prize, you're being attacked because your reasoning is extremely stupid. How are you at all qualified to comment on what the GST prize should be? That's like me saying "1k tower prize should be a morph that is useless because of [incoherent rant here]"

????????

The difference is you can't upload your own hat whenever you want. The difference is that you have never won a GST so you don't know how frustrating it is to be winning hats you never wear.

Should GST hat edits be allowed?
 

Gotta say, that's kinda poor logic considering the comparitive comeback is, "If you can't handle editing a hat every 3 months, why don't you not apply as staff?" Most people aren't even insisting that staff should be responsible for the edits anyway.

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I was also told (i don't remember if it was you or the other guy) that I have no idea what a good prize is simply because I never won a GST. That's why I said you don't need to win a GST to know what prize you would want if you did win.

I don't see the point in staff taking their time to make a quality hat, just to have the players want to edit it. If that was the case, they might as well actually submit their own upload.

bruh. i voted no too, so ur wrong about that. I'm just so amazed that you said something ******ed as saying that towering is harder than winning a GST and that there is some magical way of going around the system to win a GST.

that's why alumni just want to upload their own hat LOL
looking at 2 diff version of MDR hats. yeah alumnis gst hats gonna be good.
and if 'custom gst hat' happens, thallen is probably going to upload same hat for both idev and mixed with gst letter on it.

but the problem is:
alumni is prepared ok, but what about the other group who place/win?
they don't have gfx artists or a hat in their mind. you see where i am going with this?
that's why in the past, i have suggested the prelayout/outline hats etc.

Let's give GST winners giant swords that gives them a 10+ pixel reach over everyone else! That would be fair! The point remains: we don't want that ****.

I'm completely done replying to you this is like explaining gravity to a chicken.

Here's a revolutionary idea, guys! Let's let players upload swords! *applause*

Lol. The GFX themselves don't determine how far you can hit other players. The size would have no affect on the reach to hit a player. You seem emotional, which I guess is clouding your common sense, considering you have that to begin with.

sux that I can't agree with sensible posts like this one without it making me look biased

Editing a hat that I already put time into and received criticism from other GFX staff to make sure the hat was as top notch as my ability would allow, instead of putting my time towards things that aren't the GST or maybe the other 18 GST hats that need to be made that year?

I think it would be fine if there was a small adjustment like adding A for Alumni for example or just a different color? Otherwise idk, up to the staff but don't see it that big a deal.

No one's saying you have to edit it, people just want to have the option of having it edited (by anyone) so that it resembles the guild in some way and I really don't see an issue with that...

Like I posted before, here's an example of an original GST hat:
http://i.imgur.com/OaDrCoH.png

And then edited versions:
http://i.imgur.com/GZhfY0w.png

You really have an issue with that? That isn't an edit to say, "Wow man, your GFX is ****." It's saying, "Can we do something to maybe reflect our guild's colors or name?"
You can even argue that the symbol on the original one even looks better, but it's cool to have symbolization and personalization for your guild as a sign of actually achieving something. It actually looks like a GST hat after that.

I think that if a guild can submit a hat with simple edits like that within a week of the GST, they should be able to have it uploaded one time only.

As Thallen said and showed, it isn't the end of the world. Small minor adjustment to accommodate the winners, it's only fair. It's not like they're saying your gfx is **** but it should accommodate the ones who have won.

Still don't understand why you can't just 1K for a custom hat.

value difference.

because if we do a tower guild then we can't bruise the fragile ego of a staff member by making a simple and innocent edit to their hat /s

One represents skill, the other represents time.

I'm not sure what exactly you guys want... You want a personalized hat but don't want to go into the trouble of making it yourself so you just add minor edits to someone elses work? Not saying it would be the end of the world but it is not a very nice attitude either.

Nope. What everyone really wants is the ability to upload their own hat, like you said. Staff have made it clear that they aren't going to allow that, so people have asked for the next best thing (which are small edits to the hats they do provide us with). I just think it's insane that you're all acting like it's such a burden or so much work to upload a hat.

Last post because you guys clearly are misinterpreting our point. They don't want a hat they made, they want the hat they chose to have a small edit which might even be a few pixels if anything to represent them as a guild.

I see, i have no idea how the system for uploading graphics to the server work, Coco explained the trouble involved in it on a previous post but i didn't quite get it. Anyway i do think player made hats for GST should be allowed, i see no problem with it as long as the players are not constantly rushing admins to get it uploaded.

Afaik there was no rush for the hat upload.

So who finna wanna get smacked?

Dammit old account still says "Am" lol

Just take the prize you get, whats the point having someone work hard on a hat for you & then you editing it to your liking? Just make the hat in the first place then. Anyway, if you don't like the reward, don't participate? Anyone think of that? Jeez lol. You guys aren't very smart.

^^^^

I'd love to, where can I sign up?

Can we please just fire Leah.

Thanks.