...Well I think if it's just the one tower this could be a great idea!

Lol no work? 0o
Gym? Thallens pls must of been the gym in graal lol



Note: you been no-lifeing graal for over 10 years and you call these kids losers 0o0o


BTW only babies and old people take naps GG
just had some more salt :)




FULGOREEEEEE come help your daddy ;)

1. i don't even know when that was because i don't recall that ever happening, i'm pretty sure you know. you had one account and selective sparred all the way up there then got shut down. let's not avoid it here.

2. gg.

3. i'm not even bragging about my life being good, all i've said is that i'm enjoying college, so not sure where you're getting that from. and i said "when i wasn't even a high school freshman yet" so how is that 3 years? can you perform basic math? college freshman now. so let's go: senior-1 year. junior-2 years. sophomore-3 years. freshman-4 years. 8th grade-5 years. yeah, if you can't transform over 5 years (13-18, puberty) i'm pretty sure you're not a normal human being.

4. no, you're a freak for being a below average dude and then pretending anything you say is actually relevant to any decent player in the spar community's mind just because you switched to pc and joined a laggy guild. you're a freak for thinking you're clever (i find this really funny) and posting the same typical bad-attempt-at-being-a-smartass responses to everything i say by copying parts of my statements. but it doesn't work because everything you're saying is wrong and you're just trying way too hard to be clever here.

now back to the thread: bad idea only thought up to benefit the creator of the thread and his guild, should not even be considered, continue with regular graal life.

must be helping his mom sell tanning lotion

GOAT wants me baaaaad lol

1. Was referring to this: http://www.gyazo.com/24ab1e83088f099da7ee9de69b037a7e
Again, yes I selective sparred and got to those points - don't bs and say you haven't either, you were pretty famous for resetting your points and abusing the system - and I don't remember being "shut down" since I stopped sparring when I got to those points until the leaderboards were reset.

2. Not really "gg" when I see you running around following your online girlfriend who was desperate for me, and begged me to be her first online bf or whatever. Then claiming that you've had so many online girlfriends that you managed to lose count of them.

3. School works differently in the UK so it was a guess, but still made you pretty salty.

4. Right, I'm not allowed to switch to pc when it's the device I use for any other game and it's much more comfortable for me to use. I joined a laggy guild? Big deal!!! The guild has some foreign players that can't help their lag/delay and therefore delay. Lets take the mixed team for example,
Me - delay
Mk - delay
Thallen - no delay
Dante - no delay
Hikaru - no delay
Fulgore - no delay
Shannon - no delay

Below average? I seem to do quite well in the GST's and last time I sparred you it ended up with me winning around 3 times and you crying about my delay or whichever excuse you used. I guess it's better than your usual racial attacks to laggers and calling them terrorists because you can't beat them.

http://i.imgur.com/Gh2xRxQ.jpg

Hate to derail the thread, but yeah, Thallen you really aren't the person to be calling people losers when you've spent 10 years of your life on this game. I'm not saying you're a loser, but you're just...youre not necessarily a winner, either :dazed:

It's good you've found something you enjoy, but just...I don't see how about 95% of these people are losers. They haven't spent almost half of their life on a game :rolleyes: not trying to be mean, it's just the truth.

OT: Still disagree with the idea.

I'll be a loser anyday compared to being pedo who recorded a kid on cam and made a website specifically for her and massed it out with tucker. Bam!!!!!! Come at me !!!!

Inb4 albus deletes everything.

1. fix your (memory).
and no, this is some bs propaganda created by thallen to try to discredit my sparring accomplishments. when i was on the leaderboard, i got there fairly and without resetting. i used the resetting to be OFF of the leaderboard. we good?

2. we're just friends and you're looking pretty dumb for continuing to post this. also, i'll use a popular (Alumni) defense term here: i don't know where you're getting these "fairy tales" from, as i've had probably 7-ish online girlfriends and have stated many times that i'm not proud of it and it isn't something to brag about.

3. "inb4 umad accusations" i'm so good.

4. the switching to pc part is fine, it's the "i'm going to pretend i'm somebody else and change my personality because i switched to pc" part that's weird. hikaru has also done this.
i couldn't even name your entire mixed gst team because the reality is, the idevice players don't really care about that half and it isn't important to us nearly as much as it is to you. when people think (Alumni) they think awful delayers recruited only for the purpose of lagging in gst, not "eko" sorry.
yes you are below average, and again, i don't know where you're getting these "fairy tales" from as last time i remember sparring you it was 1-1, are you confused? there's this weird thing alumni members have where they type something and then believe it, like thallen with "sarah is the best sparrer" after calling izumi "not even considered a sparrer," and now you with "i didn't get destroyed after selective sparring on idevice" and "i beat you 3-0." let me try: i beat sarah 32-0 (this actually happened at one point though).

probably won't even reply to your next response as it's getting so desperate and stupid to the point where you have to convince yourself to believe something and accuse me of saying things that have never come out of my virtual character's mouth. i can't even imagine what story you'll come up with next.

He's gonna respond

thats what i do baby. i need somewhere to put my extra salt :D:P
http://media.giphy.com/media/l56Cl2FEzGRxe/giphy.gif

dont know much about you besides my friend telling me you thought the pink deal-dough shield you were wearing was a tie. Meet him in the device room and ill record a best of 7 series. :)

:love::love::love: good tag team :)

damn, i need to get more involved with graal gossip/rumors/scandals.:D:P

Pokemon gym*

Oh right I havent actually posted my opinion yet.
Its a good idea, but sounds like youre just getting tower time for guild sparring repeatedly (unless no one challenges). I'm all into incorporating skill into towering, but ya gotta keep the relevance of the fact that its a fort.

NO ONE IS EVEN ON YOU?????
People are always arguing and ruining a perfectly fine forum and demolishing (what should be) a great idea by hating on each other. Like if you're going to post something on here, it should be something that's actually helpful, All I see is Comyt starting an Argument (For no reason) and people in Alumni defending themselves from him, Like what are you expecting? People are obviously going to talk back if you talk about them. If you have nothing positive to say it isn't hard to just shut your mouth and keep it to your self. I'm pretty sure everyone on the forums wants you to shut your mouth because 100% of the things you say on this forum is Negative and not helpful in any sort of way.

Warning: This thread contains depressed animals, Comyt, bad "GFX Admins", and other sissy players. Moving on, I'd like to say nothing would make "IClassic" better then too get new "GFX Admins" that know what they're actually doing. If they were good now, I'd not be banned daily from these forums. #coco88 #Reece

♥ xoxo Colin. There's Belle Island Guild Spar.
I don't think anyone needs to shut their mouth. They're all giving their own input on why they agree/disagree with the idea, which is the point of threads anyways.. If you've read the earlier posts, Comyt actually did give his own opinion on Thallen's idea. Maybe YOU should give your own opinion on why you like the Guild Spar idea. You aren't posting anything "helpful" too.

blind, ignorant thallen idea-riding.
"negative and not helpful in any sort of way" is more like every post by your leader. does he ever have anyone else in mind?

you deserve no further comments.

Lol okay Lia cause it is so Helpful ripping on Eko,Dante and Fulgore about agreeing on our friends Idea. The whole idea on forums is to give positive feedback. I'm sure being negative and calling out people in Alumni on agreeing with our friends idea is what you should do on a forum. Forums are for helpful advice. All I did was state that Comyt should shut up and stop making Arguments off of his totally "positive" post and actually post something helpful. If you think what he said was helpful your an Idiot. If Comyts post was actually Positive and Helpful in any sort of way I don't think i'd be talking right now.

Leave your room for once, and take your problems with your dad Thallen somewhere else.

Example #1 #negative. @Lia

LiA #Unwanted.

He's right though. (At comyt saying your idea-riding). Your post before looked like just ass kissing and was pretty irrelevant lol. You sort of just bashed comyt for posting negative comments ignoring some of the things Alumni members have said. For example: Eko brought up Nadine calling comyt ugly irl. This doesn't seem to be positive to me or relevant to anything.

lol, if you haven't noticed all of this has been said because of one of comyts negative post. If he hadn't have said that none of these things would have been said. This all started because he was being negative like he always is. And no i'm not idea riding. If stating that one persons posts are negative is riding someones idea I don't really understand lol. All i'm saying is just be quiet if your not going to say anything positive or else all these arguments are going to happen.

“Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else.” – Judy Garland. "Comyt didn't do this." "Comyt did this." "Comyt slept with this girl not that one." None of you know him, stop defending for possibly the biggest baby on graal who starts stuff he can't finish.

I really wouldn't even want it to piggyback the towering system - I only introduced the idea like that so people can get a general understanding of what it'd be like, since I think the majority of the community understands how towering works

the towering format also rewards guilds, and I'm pretty sure an idea like this would basically never work out if people weren't rewarded with their precious hats and stuff, so that's another reason I drew a comparison

a "king of the hill" design where there is a list of the most wins (rather than most hours) would be a lot better, it's just that suggesting it this way makes it sound like a much larger and more independent project (and I know developer's don't like that)

you really shouldn't be rewarded for just sitting around and waiting for someone to come spar you, and that's the #1 drawback of it building off of the same system that towers use

LOL Leaf I saw your deleted post. I was quoting Blaze so my post wasn't aimed at you. :unsure:

@ Blaze: I don't know who's right or wrong, but I know that it takes two people to start an argument. I knew Comyt was being rude by stating names from Alumni, but those people who replied to Comyt had the option to ignore it like how Thallen was ignoring it. If you've seen other past threads, then you know that Thallen & Comyt have been writing posts about each other for awhile now. None of us have a right to add ourselves into this because it's not our problem lol. If Comyt or Thallen wants to argue, then oh wells. I'm not here to defend anyone x_X. I don't even talk to Comyt or Thallen. You don't need to call me an idiot just because I'm not agreeing with you. I have common knowledge so I've been ignoring the argument posts until now. You should do the same too. I've already stated my own opinion to Thallen's Guild Spar idea. Write about yours too :P

Alright.

well, it's definitely not me arguing - check my 3 (4?) posts in this thread
it's very easy for me to ignore people who post nothing constructive, people who don't spar or tower, etc.

it sucks for the discussion that there are people who use these forums exclusively to follow me around and obsessively type rage/hate paragraphs for hours on end, but it's very easy for me to deal with

Read the "Graalian's Bible." -Comyt 1-1000 or -Thallen 1-1000 it's very detailed and eventually they find out they're father and son living in the same house. It's a really dramatic story, but true.

Lol I really am just saying to stop being so negative. I am not trying to get myself in this. All that I am saying is that everything that Comyt posts shouldn't be Negative. As I stated before . This Forum is for positive/helpful opinions. Comyt eliminated this by starting the Argument by posting something Negative.

If you wanted to hear what my opinion was here it is, I think it would be pretty cool to have this because then guilds that enjoy guildsparing could have fun doing this in a PK style sort of format. I think it would make guilds more competetive because it would bring a new thing to Graal and typically on Classic when something is new People tend to do it. I think it would also encourage people to do it since there would most likely be a prize of some sort (if you got a certain amount of hours)

#Church #GraalianChurch #JesusStephan

Of course, no one can argue against that. There's no question that guilds would do it, it'd bring new competition, and at the very least it'd add something else for people to do.

The problem is that some people don't care about what would make Graal more interesting or active. Their main interest is making sure other people aren't able to enjoy things. It's narcissistic people in the community who know they wouldn't do it, or wouldn't be good at it, so they don't want to see others enjoying it.

I think the worst/funniest argument against ideas promoting competition within the community is, "This shouldn't happen because someone will be the best at it."
That type of statement is a prime example: people on Graal are very jealous, and their concern is making sure you don't have fun and get rewarded for being good at the game. It's literally unfair to them that people who are good at something get recognition or rewarded for it on an online game. That's weird, right?

I don't catch bugs, but I definitely think the people who are the best at it should get something. I also think it should be expanded and improved upon. I'm able to say that because it's a game, games are meant to be active, competitive, and fun, and it adds something new. How can someone literally say, "No, they shouldn't get that!" I guess I'm just not a jealous person?

I think this is the same reason why there will never be support for a singles tournament. No one can come up with a reasonable explanation as to how it negatively affects the game, but 90% of people don't support it. The reason is because they'd hate to see someone else win it.
Those same people won't make their own suggestions to help improve the game, and if they do then I guarantee it'd revolve around the idea of limitations or restrictions on people. "You can only win this many hats." "You can only be this good." "You can only PK here." "You can only spar these people."

Blazee: I think it would make guilds more competitive because it would bring a new thing to Graal and typically on Classic when something is new People tend to do it. I think it would also encourage people to do it since there would most likely be a prize of some sort (if you got a certain amount of hours)

Your idea is basically a new lag area. Also, people don't want bad graphics its just insulting toward the game's reputation. I'm not saying the game hasn't lost its reputation but, come on really? "I think it would also encourage people." Yeah, lets encourage a monstrosity. I truly think that is totally the way to go. Sometimes, I really want to hit you, but that's animal abuse. You must have been born on a highway because that's where most accidents happen. Your idea is probably one of the biggest accidents if it was living its reality but, sadly it's going to die like the rest of the bad ideas you morons say.

implement ideas that benefit a small population of the community 0o

How did the streak room work out with promoting spar? Now people stay away from the spar rooms because theres always some player with a crappy connection stalking the room. I know delayers get a lot of negativity thrown their way, but a lot of the players abuse their 3g/4g network to strengthen their delay which cheapens the spar.



If people really cared about GS the GS rooms wouldnt be ghost towns in non gst week. This will just lead to someone exploiting it for the purpose of getting a hat. Trust me when I say it wont promote competition. Nothing promotes competition because tryhard players are always looking for a way to cheat or exploit the system which cheapens the event.



If people want to suggest something, try to make it where it would realistically benefit the whole community and not a small percentage.

You have a good start but, It's people with VPN changers and people who are further away from the graal server. I could go online with anonymous "VPNs" and change my location to Africa. Oh, and you also forgot to mention how corrupt the spar ratings are.

and how is one supposed to be positive in a thread with a really stupid idea? if everyone was "positive" in a thread, that would mean we are all agreeing. read through, we are not all agreeing. how stupid are you? this is literally the worst argument i have read in 2014.

btw, no matter what i post, if it is disagreeing, every single alumni member would still have hopped on it because of how heavily all of you suck up to thallen's ideas.

"it would make guilds more competitive"
"there's no question that guilds would do it"
yeah, like who? what half-decent spar guild would actually participate in this? because i only see about 6 of them, and none of them seem to care about towering at all. this is only for your own benefit. if this is added, you will see just one overly attached, extremely laggy guild vs. 50 noob guilds who have never even placed top 8 in a gst.

don't even create some bs story to argue with this. i know how much you hate to admit it, but i'm right.

discontinuing my posts on this thread so this absolute garbage dies out before an extremely drunk staff member actually considers it.

They don't like towering? Yet multiple people in high-end spar guilds have multiple 1k hats.

You don't speak for anyone but your self therefore can not say they dislike it how would you know if they like it or not if they've never done it?

This idea isn't just towering it requires sparring which they enjoy.

LOL!
This is exactly what I'm talking about in my previous post. "Come up with an idea that benefits players who will not be good at it just as much as players who will be good at it."

I know this is going to hit a soft spot, but any and every idea that encourages activity and competition on Graal will narrowly benefit a small percentage. That small percentage is the players who are actually good at the game. You know, the people who should benefit? Because it's an online game? And people who are good at the game should excel?

Apply this same logic to the GST. Let's stop holding the GST because it fails to "benefit the whole community" and instead rewards a "small percentage." We should probably shut down towering and events, too. It's not fair that the people who are good at towers get rewarded for being good at towers!

^^^^^

can you at least try to be smart
this isn't about individual people but full guilds
what full spar guild would actually do this besides alumni
none
what full spar guild would do this after week 2
none
stop posting if its all just stupid

now seriously leaving this thread

If they liked towering they would perhaps have a 10k mount. Nobody said you had to like towering to hat chase to 1k a few times.

I don't understand your logic here. Anybody can participate in the GST, anybody can join a tower guild, anybody can join an event. Not everyone, however, could beat Alumni in a guild spar. There are only a few teams that could do it, and most only actually come together right before a GST.

Like someone said before in this thread, you want this idea to get another custom hat.

OH GOD LOL

So the summary of the counter-argument is, "This shouldn't happen because Alumni would beat everyone." If that's honestly what it is, then I can disappear from this thread in peace. I genuinely appreciate your honesty, because at least you'll come out and just say it in plain English.

I'll come back when you guys find your confidence.

I'm pretty sure you already knew this the second you started this thread. Very few people want this idea implemented because it really is just another opportunity for you to get another 1k hat. The first two weeks it'll be competitive, but after a month the only guilds doing it would be Alumni who would be hogging the tower 24/7 and 10 other noob guilds who don't know what a guild spar is.

I seriously only come on the forums to read comyt tear alumni apart.

1 person who is against this idea is speaking intelligently and without angst. As far as attacking everything Comyt says because I'm Alumni, I should point out I've agreed with him before, and don't even consider him an "enemy" (in whatever kind of game these forums have been made into with the same 2 sides disagreeing). Yes, I'm definately for this idea, and if Comyt has his reasons fine. However, if anyone doesn't agree, a "I don't like this idea" or "I don't see this working" is faar better than "This is stupid." Idc who you are. Inb4 goat says I'm sucking up again but oh well. Note that I never called anyone stupid on this thread btw. There are other ways to type!!

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Your looool is stupid :)

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Ignoring this stupid flame war going on well to the idea... I do disagree with it however I do wish to see a streak room because I do like to spar against guilds vs alumni,apostles etc. It sucks waiting like 15mins in a queue to get put against a random noob guild that just stand in 1 spot and spam because it is just pointless.

Anyway basically just have a streak room and implemente a view queue system where you can see the queues of the spar room by saying a command.

I was summoned?

You tell me to try being smart when your whole statement is based on the fact you think you can speak for full guilds that you probably have no idea what they think about this.

Anyone can participate in towering, anybody can join a towering guild. Not everyone can actually take and hold towers therefore it is clearly pointless and should be taken away.

Spar ratings can't really be corrupt the amount of points you earn depends how good your opponent is so in order to get high points you'll need to beat good people.

Also the reason no one can seem to beat Alumni is because so far by reading this thread half of you assume they are gods and don't even care to try, they aren't that hard and they sure as hell wouldn't be the only spar guild doing this.

People who enjoy towering have activities so why not add one for sparring people? Just because you don't personally like the idea doesn't mean it should be disregarded.

Also Crafts as stated earlier, they could probably get a faster 1k hat towering this isn't about a hat its about having a larger variety of things to do.

Also Alumni isn't logged on 24/7 so there will be times when they aren't even defending it.

the point is to improve the server as a whole and for everyone. picking up candies, getting all the eggs to get a morph, getting the most eggs and so on are things that promote competition and gives everyone a realistic chance of winning.


picking up candies, getting all the eggs to get a morph, getting the most eggs and so on are things that promote competition and gives everyone a realistic chance of winning or at least be competitive.


Good? you mean the people that live on the other side of the world from the server and choose to abuse their 3g network in order to have an advantage over other players?

or do you mean the players that do everything in their power to improve their pc'c performance to have an advantage over the majority of idevice players? the same ones that had a chance to prove how "good" they were by using a idevice(more even playing field) and refused because their man fingers were to big for the small screen? yeah i dont really consider them that good until proven otherwise



I was never good at the game and I excelled. I excelled so much, I have so called "good" players asking my friends about my main account. Weird.

People that are "good" always excel without needing special benefits. Shinta, comet, kevin, nite, Simple-Z just to name a few.




The GST has space for almost 700 people and everyone has a realistic chance of participating in it and winning a match or two. Towering has had many noob guilds reach their 1k goal and everyone has a realistic chance of taking towers. Didnt they change the events to a que system so everyone would have a equal and realistic chance of doing them?

This suggestion would give less than 50 players a realistic chance of competing and half of them would probably not care about it.






Is CM CM lying? dont lie 0o




IKR? thats as stupid as someone saying I kissed comet's ass because i agreed with one of his points. Weird how the same scenario is seen from different perspectives by the same person.

How did I lie :(

Honestly reading everyone's responses and ideas, it seems more sparrers are replying rather than anyone else. I feel like towering should be what it is, towering. Implementing a gs system into the tower system changes the idea of "towering" and overrides it with sparring. This idea generally benefits sparrers only, and sparrers already have a gst every 3 months which is generally how long average, non 24/7 sards tower guilds get 1k. Really what i think that should be added is a gs streak room b/c it seems that's what we are getting at.