It's talking about Graal3D elements specifically, which were present in older versions of the client and Graal3D server. (Which is why we eventually got the Graal3D Christmas Preview that took a lot more disk space to install.)

The stuff I'm talking about is still present and working just fine.

The only 3D Elements left are for stefans Skills Games, from last I heard. Most 3D Elements, especially the ones for 3D Graal was removed to downsize the client.

You basically described zone. Go play zone. Seriously everything you just described fits zone. Get a photon, learn to tap fire it. You will be set for a long long long time.

Do we even have a server for those games anymore? I kind of miss Bomber Mad

I can't see the servers growing much seeing as the entire server on Classic lags during Christmas when there is almost 4k players online. Something would need to be done about this first.

go play zone. You described zone.

the servers need to be upgraded so bad. Era and zone lag so hard.

but instead of upgrading, they decided to remove the in game forums altogether. Well played, zone. Well played.

Do you have any concept of what the in game forums could have potentially used as far as resources?

I mean, even if it was centered around a SQLdb instead of a DBNPC, you are talking about a good amount of resources.

Sounds like an upgrade to me.

Well played Zone, well played.

how about we start something- Spread the Graal Word. Take your favorite server, and tell friends to play it, Maybe server owners can make discount offers for a limited time- like guns half off for a week, or something like that if that could be done.( it's also an excuse to get awesome guns for low price, as you know, being a noob nowadays is a lot harder to get money, and half the time anybody who starts the game quits.) Make the beginning of the game more like a gimmick, idk.

Classic, I realize, would be a little different. Maybe make a limited edition Horse to ride.

Or, make all objects discount depending on playing time. For example, if a gun costs $4,000 right now, for someone with 10 hours; the cost would be 2,000. But for someone with 1k hours, it would be $3,000. And for someone with over 5k hours, it would be the full price.
However, not big leaps like that for every few 000's. Like if you have 212 hours, the cost may be 2,200.
Each hour of playing, the required gralats increases slightly.
This gives new players a chance to get everything they need.

But I also understand the above option would create problems and complainers about how they've played so long they should get a discount. Just thought I'd mention the idea

Graal will die when Cadavre and I release our engine ;)

Where will I waste my time then ;(

On our engine of course

Fixed

sounds like a challenge.

I'd love to see that engine done, as it sounds super open to developers like Valikorlia, and it is pretty much our only hope for the future, due to a lack of any real expertise on making the transition from Graal Client to Graal Facebook.

Nope, when.

No, what.