The new Metal Gear Solid has now been confirmed for both consoles now..
and Final Fantasy 13 was announced for 360 greatly but was superior on the PS3 due to quality (whereas the 360 version had 3 discs). The same will apply for Final Fantasy 13-2 (Hope it doesn't)...

And expand range of content? what type of content? movies? shows? weather? other things that aren't related to games?

I only bought my PS3 so it can play games.. If i needed to do any of that, i have a laptop.. so pretty much that expanded range of content is kinda pointless.. Unless you come up with a situation where someone has a PS3/360 and no computer...

Speaking of which, PS3 has a browser... 360 doesn't...
That makes the PS3 special in some way according to what you're saying now right?

They're not really. Console makers will always pay to have their own first-party developers at hand(Sony Computer Entertainment America, for example), and will always shell out money to exclusive rights. Why? Because most of the time what really sells a console is what games it's offering. Do you think PS3 would have sold at all if it weren't for games like MGS:4 in its early years? Sometimes people really have to have that one game on a console, and may just buy the entire console for it. They know this. It would be financial suicide for consoles to just forget about exclusive titles, especially when consoles like the PS3 and 360 offer a very similar experience. And even if they're not, when they're even remotely the same, developers will dumb down the game to work on the least powerful console and the more powerful console ends up with the same exact game anyways, regardless of being capable of much more(360 and PS3 are good examples of this, where PS3 usually gets games that look horrible compared to games like MGS4 or God of War 3, because games are made to be playable on the 360).

But if it doesn't pack it all into one disc, don't they usually try to put it all in on three discs for the 360? (Final Fantasy 13, LA Noire,etc.)

I don't see the relevance?

Uh No? Dusty just proved that the PS3 an Xbox excell at different things in terms of graphics, etc. He also said that PS3 has the potential to be better than the Xbox, graphics wise etc. So yes it is that simple. Oh how much is an Xbox now? PS3s now are under $300

Xbox 360...love it and use it everyday with little downfalls other than the 60$ a year for live

We can apparently be expecting them late 2013/early 2014. It's kind of sad that consoles are released so slowly now compared to the 90's, where we progressed through like 3 generations of "bits" with fierce competition.

Yes, the consoles bottleneck the progression of graphics and more complex gameplay because of the hardware restrictions on the consoles ranging from performance to controller limitations. What I posted has nothing to do with game sales.

"Valve started putting their titles on consoles" <-- complete nonsense. Valve is going stronger than ever.

of course Sony has Soe and Microsoft has Microsoft games.
I was talking about the third party exclusives who originally pledged their loyalty to the Ps3 but then went multi console..im guessing Sony didn't pay them off enough?

@above sorry I misunderstood what you meant by bottlenecking I retract what I said earlier :p
But also you can't say Valve hasn't profited by putting their games on consoles.

Yes thank you for restating the point that was being made
um no, Square made previous Final Fantasy games for the previous Playstations so it makes sense that they would continue with the PS3, quality has nothing to do with it.
Does it hurt to have the extra stuff available? No not really, the consoles are powerful machines and can offer many other things besides gaming.
I have a laptop, windows phone, and iPod yet I still play my Xbox almost every day..again, the extra content is a commodity, its not needed yet its nice to have available.

I never said anything about a web browser..and a web browser isnt "content" its a utility.
But even that supports my argument, a web browser isnt needed but its nice to have, right?

You dont need to justify why you got a PS3, I don't care. I'm glad you're in love with your PS3 and its games.

Exactly, its optional. Whats wrong with that?

if you want a straight up, bare bones online gaming service go play games on your PC

Who knows, the contract could have only been for a few years. I don't know the details of these exclusivity contracts but I'm pretty sure you just can't "break" them. If Sony paid for exclusive rights to Metal Gear Solid then Konami has no choice but to oblige. If its namesake is appearing on another console then it must be part of the agreement.

Do you have short term memory loss or something?

I was replying to your post in which you said that the only difference between the two consoles was the price of online.

I never made that claim, I simply took what you said, and ran with it.

If i wanted all the extra stuff, i could have used my laptop... Again, its not needed.. Maybe it was given on request...

No thanks. Playing games on PC are not my type of gaming..
Also, i don't see a Mortal Kombat 9, Castlevania: Harmony of Despair, Castle Crashers, and other console based titles on the PC... Because to me, those are fun as hell!

TBH my appeal for console's is that it's just what it is, a console. There is something different about sitting on the couch/floor and playing a game, rather than sitting hunched at my desk playing a PC game with a mouse and keyboard. I do both, but there's just something about consoles that a PC can't satisfy.

why would you sit hunched? most people perform better when they sit back and relax

if your pc and tv are close, you can easily play your pc games "comfortably" on the couch with mouse & keyboard or a controller.

Just not the same, man.

Its not just the comfort of how you play but also the feel of the controller. Yes, it does feel different playing on the PC and on the consoles

Yes, but some may prefer the keyboard over a controller.

Yes, but some may prefer the controller over a keyboard.

I already said that... Haha

EDIT: Oh you swapped the words, my bad.

360 all the way cuz they have gears and halo. My ps3 sucks and the controller is just akward

Yea the ps3 triggers are way off, they should have just used the ps2 controller.

Hmm... to be honest i don't see/feel any difference between a PS2 and a PS3 controller.

Back shoulder buttons are analog, like the gamecube shoulders were. PS2 shoulder buttons were just that -- buttons, however the PS3 shoulders(at least the back) actually slide down as you press them.

Because you can't use a 360 controller on PC? Oh wait, you totally can because it's a USB device to begin with.

The only argument you're ever going to present that's valid is exclusive game titles and possibly the overall cost (although I can easily counteract that with how simplistic piracy is on the PC compared to the consoles).

I got a ps3 for Christmas. I like the smoothness and speed of the interface over 360's(which has stopped feeling responsive, especially while in a game, since the second major update... it always takes way too long for it to open up). As for the controllers? I have to say I like the 360 better. The 360 analog sticks feel tight and responsive, while the PS3's feel very loose, which I don't feel is very good for accuracy. Also, I don't like the L2/R2 triggers at all on the PS3. Again, they don't feel tight and responsive, and almost feel like they don't have any resistance at all. But in the end, it didn't matter that much to me at all. My first game on Black Ops on the PS3, even when the controller still felt weird, went 27 and 4. However... I'm starting to believe that that's because of what people have said: competition on the PS3 isn't as high as it is on the 360. But I can't really judge that on one game.

PS3 controller charging is awesome though, and always thought so.

Xbox 360

OMG! WII IS THE BEST!

Does anyone wanna have anymore opinions?

ps3, the only thing I like about xbox is that the controller is comfortable

I think I just fell in love with the controller of the xbox 360. x_x

PS3
*Free multiplayer gaming (unlike Xbox live)
*PSN hacked?? I remember this, and it can happen to any company. I believe that the Xbox is too boring to hack, which is why it wasn't... Haha
*Discounts!!!
*No bugs I found so far.
*Great interface

1 con:
Sony got mad at geohot for hacking the Play Station 3... They had a "U MAD BRO" experience.

the Xbox is too boring to hack?
..thats just stupid

anonymous picked to hack ps3. It can hack xbox if it wanted to :3

hands down Xbox 360.
>it has Halo.
>controllers are pimp.
>Ps3 is gay.
cold hard facts, umad Ps3 nubs?

But xbox has had the most sales for 7th months straight dominating the ps3.

I love how everyone just states "x system is gay" for their example.. Provide some evidence or opinions of why.

I prefer PS3 by far just because I like the games on it more. But I think the main reason why people like PS3 more is because online is free.

why should we when we already know which console is better

I prefer Xbox 360

Overall, exclusives are better (in my opinion)
Controllers <3
More people.

The only thing that irritates me is that PS3 have God of War, Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter :cry:

Xbox forever, ign and gameinformer and g4 support this to, read them for reasons.

You must be talking about US sales, because the X360 is basically dead for the japanese market.
Simply look at the hardware sales by platform:
Here are the weekly sales in the US, X360 haves more sales.
This is simply for the fact japanese people rather to get the japanese console instead of the american console no one cares about on there, is a similar case with the PS3 in the US, but probably less dramatical.

In my opinon both consoles are amazing (and pretty much the "same thing"), if you want to get one just look into the exclusives and go for the ones you are more attracted to.

This is where i found the info, if someone is interested: http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/

I like and own both systems, but right now I am leaning towards the PS3. One of the best things (though removed) was being able to put linux on my PS3. Now that it's gone though I still love the fact that I pay for nothing, have a kickass web-browser, and a solid line-up of sony-only games. Now that I have my vita the functionality of my ps3 has been boosted due to the plug n' play feature.

360 is a solid machine with a nice library of games, but it doesn't give you as many features as a PS3 does. In the long run you even end up paying more for it than a PS3. Regardless they both rock.

By the way I suggest you guys get a Vita, it's pretty nice.
Oh and another note, just because the PSN got hacked doesn't mean it's bad. If a hacker, or hackers wants something bad enough then by all means they'll probably be able to get it.

Xbox 360 has alot of indie games something ps3 might or might not have but they have clones of minecraft which is actually coming out this month only for 360.

i have a xbox and to tell you the truth ps3 is way better. It doesnt get the red ring of death, you dont have to pay for online, the graphics for games are unreal. The only reason i have a xbox is because i can play online with my friends :-)

for me it all depends on what games im playing...

forever alone on the ps3?

Your avatar is one of the reasons it's nice to have a PS3. :P
Overall both systems are pretty similar, and each have their own features, though none of the systems I own will beat my PC.

To all new forum users that have joined in the past months what do you think?