Instead of hiring admins with 290680 hours and 500 of every other stat, they should actually hire admins with experience.

In most cases, having a high amount of Pks, Spars, and Baddy Kills, shows experience. It shows that you are familiar with all aspects of game play, not just afking in graal city (like most GPs do).

The appeal system is messed up. I got into an argument with a GP, (keep in mind on their private account), and was banned for a week. Since the GP that banned me would be the one reading the appeal, I sent my appeal to xor instead. He basically said "I don't care if they banned you because they were mad. You didn't follow the appeal instructions, and because of that, it will not be overturned."

I don't get it...

May also be a coincidence, but on occasion, I'll go to the grotto and take other player's gralats. They spam reports, then 5 minutes later I get randomly warped.

nah, this is typical and almost expected

if you ever doubt that you should have 0 confidence in the reporting system, go to a spar arena or a tower and have your friend put a report through claiming that you're unhittable or lagging, one of two things is very likely to happen:

1. the report will be completely ignored
2. the person who was reported will be warned, disconnected, or warped without an admin ever actually looking into any truth in the report

the likelihood of #2 happening is probably greatly increased when a large number of people spam a false report
it probably has a lot to do with the GPs being young and immature and not understanding that their job isn't to punish people but to actually enforce the rules fairly, sometimes it's like they feel like they have a quota, "if I don't ban this amount of players per week then I'm not doing my job"

dude, my reply wasn't even that long. You have serious comprehension issues if you thought that sh*t was too long to read.

baka, you never mentioned that she talked to you. You have poor memory, bro. You said that the only reason that you knew it was her behind all the banning was because you heard it from other players. You never mentioned anything about Poppy confessing on a different account.

You are very quick to judge on others. Ironic how you complain about delayed brain development and all that sh*t, lol. You're 23 and you sound like you suffer from the same shi*t that you complain about.

I didn't really want to include your age because, IMO, age doesn't matter on a game. I just think it's ridiculous how you're crying like a 15 year old boy. It's embarrassing because:

a) you're not 15
b)you're crying on a game like Classic? This shi*t aint even that competitive. I'm starting to think that the only reason why you play Graal is because you find it easy to beat pre teens. I bet you play some of that Disney crap too, to boost your self esteem from all the winning.
c)you act like Poppy is immature, but yet you talk sh*t behind her back. What you said was very hurtful and totally not cool (it was sooooo out of line... especially from a guy that is in his 20s)

Checkmate

Hmm.. I've never been banned due to me not doing anything bad or being accused.. ._.

lol Mr.ToasterTarts

not even gonna lie, scrolled right past it



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recurring theme going on here
told me he emailed and asked why he was banned, the reply was "the ban will not be overturned"
burden of proof should lay on the person administering the ban, not the player having to prove they did nothing

Lol, dude. I dont even care because other people would read it and will learn how pathetic you are. TBH, I'm just wasting my energy talking to an idiot like you. You're a knob who will never get a move on from Graal. I just wish that you'd use your energy more efficiently. Instead of stressing on Poppy, maybe you should focus your efforts in your studies or your job.

edit:

I have nothing against old people playing the game, but there is nothing I hate more than people going serious over a game (Thallen/Comyt serious). Like, dude, it's a game not the fu*cking Olympics. You could've handled this more discreetly, Thallen. I thought you had good connections with Rufus and other members of staff?

correct, you're wasting your energy on someone who barely even acknowledges your existence
and LOL @ coming back nearly an hour later to edit your internet forum post towards me twice in a row

back to your regularly scheduled thread

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LOL. Don't embarrass yourself, I'm straight, bro.

once again you manage to prove that your reading comprehension is about third-grade level

I won't point it out to you though, I'll let you sit and stare at your reply for an hour, figure it out, then edit it like you did with your last 2 posts
lolooolololo

I will admit ichronic you do love an arguement with other people

lol, its all good. I have a lot of time to learn. I'm not 23 and I don't waste my time sparring


u seem aggravated lol. are u ok, bro?

be careful, he's known to sit and brew for an entire hour thinking about how to properly reply to your forum posts

lol, dude. You're 23. Are you not ashamed that you spend your time complaining about a game and arguing with a 15 year old?

I'm so ****ing glad you're not able to post on the Graalonline-Forums anymore, Thallen. You're overdoing it, really. Within your first two/three posts I was thinking that staff-abuse could be possible for whatever reason, but now I'm thinking that you're crying about being banned on Graal only, the fact you can't even argue in a calm/mature way seconds my thoughts aswell.

I think the staff abuse may be unintentional. If I held a position of power at age 11, I would want to ban people for no reason too! Instead of having a standard reason, your ban should actually have a well-typed paragraph describing what led you to be banned. If you were warned, they should actually describe what you did wrong. Warning you for "harassment", won't really show you what you did wrong - if you don't know what you did that was considered harassment. Warping should be removed, how is teleporting somebody going to make them learn a lesson? All it does it piss me off, and make me more likely to be unkind, since I'm annoyed.

I love Starburst!

I agree with both of your ideas or statements. I know there are players of all ages in Classic but maybe they should make a rule that you have to meet a minimum age requirement to be a gp.

for the second thing I also agree there should be a good paragraph stating in some detail the nature of a players infraction that has resulted in the ban to make it easier to appeal.

ichronic 1 - old man 0

You know you beat the old man when he has nothing to say and pretends he didnt read your post.:D

I think it was Thallen who said something like this in a similar thread. Why are they putting 12 year olds in charge of monitoring and dealing with issues from other 12 year olds? I have seen immature annoying 9-12 year olds cause drama who dont seem like they should be playing in Classics enviroment. I have also seen 12-16 year olds rage on ppl for the dumbest stuff. And i cant see them being un biased and fair when handling player issues.

With that being said I can understand there maybe a limited pool of players who are older that could be gps or admins. I know atleast a couple admins are 18 or over. I still stand by my other post that admins should be atleast 15 or 16.

I also think its crap that Xor seemingly ignored the ban apoeal request when the requester tried to tell him the banning admin was biased against him. Just makes me wish there where more sensible and understanding admins like Albus was.

That is such a cliche, man. There are no 12 year old admins. Most of them ACT like they're 12, but they're not.

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k, there may be one or two 12 year olds who currently holds a staff position, but I doubt that there are any more.

I totally agree, man. But to be fair, Xor probably had no proof of that.

I dont know why people who get banned always complain though. Like, dude, you obviously did something wrong and the bans aren't even that long.

edit:

I agree with Surge on some parts, but the age thing is a bit shady. They should really improve the swear filter though. They have a really good one in Club Penguin, but it must be hard to code all that **** with only one person.

He can't post on the official Graal forums anymore?! Poor Thallen, I can only imagine the heartbreak that must be causing him!

I agree the swear filter needs some tweaking. I have gotten so many message not sent because of "do not try and avade the swear filter." when all I was trying to do was make a comment about afking apparently the swear filter thinks I'm trying evade it and drop F bombs when I'm not.

Seeing the arguement and be likehttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...4HAx1bJD1wZ5KG

Seeing the argument and being like Michael Jackson.

Yo if you play device classic then they are not going to email you back. Read.:rolleyes:
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There needs to be a clear list of rules somewhere, like the Information Kiosk. It'd help cut down on bans if people actually knew what is and is not allowed.

It's called using logic. Just don't cuss and don't hack/cheat don't do idiotic things. Literally that's it. There doesn't need to be a specific guideline, that's the awesome part of Graal that there is in actuality a lot of freedom. Some people abuse these things though. I remember when you could do anything on Graal Classic. No cuss filter no nothing. But look at us now, were slowly getting caged in, and this is fault of all the immature people who can't handle the responsibility of cussing and just playing the game like a normal person.

Well if u cant get your ban reversed i hear lowes is hiring

- Don't swear
- Don't verbally harass people
- Don't say anything sexual
- Don't abuse bugs
- Don't hack
- Don't boost your statistics
- Don't unfairly disrupt gameplay (ex. lag blocking)
- Don't scam people
- Don't evade bans
- Don't spam reports with non-existent problems

That's literally everything you can get banned for; you're welcome.

oh wait you forgot

-No lagging into black walls and not immedietly unsticking yourself
-No blocking the hall door in snow tower
-No blocking people using water
-No Internet Solicitation (FFM, KIK, stuff like that ive had friends get month bans for)
-No guild pics of yourself or people in general
-No pretending to be admin
-No using real world money to pay people
-No taking people into places like snowtown with 2p mount who don't have lantern/drasine. Its true.
-You literally can't even troll new players on Belle Island without getting an immediate ban

& everything else I missed AKA A rule I am yet to break and am unaware about but will end up breaking in the future and getting banned for it.

So, your argument was just made completely invalid.
You're welcome

Banned for no reason
 

I got banned for 9000 hours for "multiple bans" and must've been reset at least 5 times all the way back to 9000 hours, while I can't even play the game like okay then. I need a long break from this game anyways.

How dare you insult sardons


i got banned for pming a staff member/spamming back in september

i learnt never pm staff suggestions, just take your suggestions here

Is telling an admin to go do their job properly a form of harassment?

great bump 10/10



his last activity was 10 moths ago 10/10



Let me give you some advice...

Yes that would be harassment. If you feel someone is not doing their volunteer job "properly" then you can PM someone higher in the food chain(more advice, higher ups don't pay too much attention to noob complaints FYI)

Uhm, just submit it to toonslab they appealed my ban within an hour

With evidence provided, higher-ups would look into these "noob complaints" as you say.

So if you know this why would you harass the individual in question?

No they wouldnt.They dont need an evidence.They just do what they want to and thats "one less happy peep wouldnt hurt,would it"...

O and @Bryan...pls try not being an ass here too like in Classic.Belive me... no one likes Groupies.

Just because you posted this, I'm going to assume you "tell an admin to go do their job properly" like this:



Seriously. You make it sound like you tell them so nicely and properly with little hearts and kisses and that they banned you for no reason and that you were just giving them friendly advice, like seriously, you've pmed me before telling me to "lead my guild properly" with a bunch of vulgar language, I'm fairly certain you didn't tell an admin to "do their job properly" in the way you're telling us you did.

Oh the bumps.

On a side note I actually was wrongfully banned.
I submitted a ticket then PM'd Xor details including the ticket number and he got it resolved in three minutes.

Lol i was never banned in my 900 hour play actually...

please leave Fulgore out of this Mr. MBK.

I only asked a question and gave my opinion on your previous reply. As for Common Sense, I do not recall communicating with you in any form. So please do not make false assumptions.

I got ban for asking my friend if he wants some drug.

For what i know, they use your IP Address and trace it that way

my name in forums=/=name on Graal

You wouldn't remember me, because Common Sense is not my name in game.

Aparantly yes thats y i was banned for a week in september
It was from xor....
So pming higher admins wouldnt be an option unless i planned on pming unix but I decided not to
Now i dont even feedback stuff
I just complain here and annoy as many people as I can

Whats your ingame name?

I wasnt pointing at fulgore my friend.i was pointing at Bryan here...
if fulgore's real name is bryan..i didnt knew that Lol
or,if u took that 'groupie' think towards fulgore then no..fulgore aint one of those groupies..hez one of those peeps that i respect in Classic.