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JesterTheCat 11-24-2013 10:02 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 429059)
The biggest, and worst pressure of a teen is the pressure to achieve a higher education and put themselves in massive debt for a piece of paper.

Woah. I seriously have doubt you know anything about the significance of going to a good college. Teens, like myself, should strive for colleges that are very well known and very intellectual schools. Not only will their field of interest be WIDELY expanded, their chances of getting a job is also increased. Who would be most likely picked if two people apply for the job but the only huge difference between them is the college they went to? Lets say one went to a community college and the other a university? The university one would be picked or at least have a better chance. This piece of paper that you inferably treat as just a normal piece of paper that has no significance what so ever actually does matter. This paper proves their knowledge and dedication to their field. Im sorry, but again, jobs will not pick those who have a very low degree. Teaching for example, takes a high degree. Its very well true that you most likely will be in debt, but with a good degree and a well paying job, will help pay for this debt. To achieve better in anything is a POSITIVE pressure on teenagers. If teens shouldn't be pressured to do better, should they be pressured to do worse?

As a side note, if you think that college is not worth it or the degree of having a doctoral or bachelor is not relevant to having a good life then you can certainly try and take the route of some famous and rich people who didnt go to college. Again, thats only a few small percentage that actually make it down that route.

Dusty 11-25-2013 12:13 AM

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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 429874)
Woah. I seriously have doubt you know anything about the significance of going to a good college. Teens, like myself, should strive for colleges that are very well known and very intellectual schools. Not only will their field of interest be WIDELY expanded, their chances of getting a job is also increased. Who would be most likely picked if two people apply for the job but the only huge difference between them is the college they went to? Lets say one went to a community college and the other a university? The university one would be picked or at least have a better chance. This piece of paper that you inferably treat as just a normal piece of paper that has no significance what so ever actually does matter. This paper proves their knowledge and dedication to their field. Im sorry, but again, jobs will not pick those who have a very low degree. Teaching for example, takes a high degree. Its very well true that you most likely will be in debt, but with a good degree and a well paying job, will help pay for this debt. To achieve better in anything is a POSITIVE pressure on teenagers. If teens shouldn't be pressured to do better, should they be pressured to do worse?

As a side note, if you think that college is not worth it or the degree of having a doctoral or bachelor is not relevant to having a good life then you can certainly try and take the route of some famous and rich people who didnt go to college. Again, thats only a few small percentage that actually make it down that route.

Do you know College wasn't a big thing before this generation? Your parents, and your grandparents could get a job without a degree, and still manage to live a pretty decent life. It wasn't until this generation that they started pressuring kids to get degrees. Also, do you think if your parents went to college they were in debt for the rest of their lives?

Let's not forget that even if you get a degree, the job market is so saturated that it doesn't mean you'll actually get a job.

I'm not saying degrees are useless, but it's been practically commercialized. Money money money.

GOAT 11-25-2013 02:44 AM

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Posted by JesterTheCat (Post 429874)
Woah. I seriously have doubt you know anything about the significance of going to a good college. Teens, like myself, should strive for colleges that are very well known and very intellectual schools. Not only will their field of interest be WIDELY expanded, their chances of getting a job is also increased. Who would be most likely picked if two people apply for the job but the only huge difference between them is the college they went to? Lets say one went to a community college and the other a university? The university one would be picked or at least have a better chance. This piece of paper that you inferably treat as just a normal piece of paper that has no significance what so ever actually does matter. This paper proves their knowledge and dedication to their field. Im sorry, but again, jobs will not pick those who have a very low degree. Teaching for example, takes a high degree. Its very well true that you most likely will be in debt, but with a good degree and a well paying job, will help pay for this debt. To achieve better in anything is a POSITIVE pressure on teenagers. If teens shouldn't be pressured to do better, should they be pressured to do worse?

The degree is not the importance when deciding your future plans, the importance falls under the major you decide to pursuit. Teaching doesn’t require a high degree, its actually one of the easiest ones to get. I believe it’s the liberal arts major which mainly consists of general education (talking about k-12 teachers) and the pay aint that great at less than 50k a year on average. The degrees that pay are the ones in medicine, law, and STEM careers for the most part. History and art majors are probably the worse ones at the moment (pretty much worthless).
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Posted by Dusty (Post 429892)
1Do you know College wasn't a big thing before this generation? 2Your parents, and your grandparents could get a job without a degree, and still manage to live a pretty decent life. It wasn't until this generation that they started pressuring kids to get degrees. Also, do you think if your parents went to college they were in debt for the rest of their lives?

1. Im almost certain generation x spans over 30 years. I also believe education was strongly emphasized in the later parts of generation x.
2. With the increase in companies sending their manufacturing to sweatshops around the world and the advancement in technology that is no longer the case and that’s why education is emphasized.
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Posted by Dusty (Post 429892)
Let's not forget that even if you get a degree, the job market is so saturated that it doesn't mean you'll actually get a job.

Unless you go for those hard majors.
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Posted by Dusty (Post 429892)
I'm not saying degrees are useless, but it's been practically commercialized. Money money money.

You can thank the recession for making people realize this.

iHot 11-25-2013 02:55 AM

GOAT, law is going to **** as well. Lawyers can't find jobs. Not to mention nobody is doing STEM degrees. Everyone goes for these bull**** business degrees or they "follow their dreams" (which is absolute BS now a days). All these damn history, art and music majors are useless it's a shame really.

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Posted by GOAT (Post 429910)
The degree is not the importance when deciding your future plans, the importance falls under the major you decide to pursuit. Teaching doesn’t require a high degree, its actually one of the easiest ones to get. I believe it’s the liberal arts major which mainly consists of general education (talking about k-12 teachers) and the pay aint that great at less than 50k a year on average. The degrees that pay are the ones in medicine, law, and STEM careers for the most part. History and art majors are probably the worse ones at the moment (pretty much worthless).
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LIBERAL ARTS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST DEGREE TO GET. Also political science.

NeoZX 11-25-2013 02:57 AM

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NeoZX 11-25-2013 03:07 AM

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GOAT 11-25-2013 03:38 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 429919)
GOAT, law is going to **** as well. Lawyers can't find jobs. Not to mention nobody is doing STEM degrees. Everyone goes for these bull**** business degrees or they "follow their dreams" (which is absolute BS now a days). All these damn history, art and music majors are useless it's a shame really.


LIBERAL ARTS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST DEGREE TO GET. Also political science.

I knew we weren't that different. They say great minds think alike. :love:

Sariss 11-25-2013 04:19 AM

This thread has gone to pot.

Sariss 11-25-2013 06:02 AM

Good.

optimuswhat 11-25-2013 07:36 AM

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It's my favourite hobby other than doing homework, and studying.
Yay
#sarcasm

GOAT 11-26-2013 03:21 AM

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Posted by optimuswhat (Post 430013)
I love having stress.
It's my favourite hobby other than doing homework, and studying.
Yay
#sarcasm

I love smoking stress.
Its my favorite hobby other than doing homework, and studying.
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Kiwi 11-26-2013 05:39 AM

I think it's important to remember that any pressures are proportionate to what we've experienced before and what kind of environment we live in. The "pressures" we experience are likely going to be completely different to our peers than they are for us. I've always thought it's unfair to shrug off what affects other people as trivial.

For example, when I was younger I could never decide what dinosaur to play with because I always wanted to treat them equally; deciding was a pressure for me, and I honestly spent hours sitting there trying to decide. Now, the pressure I experience is more along the lines of "this presentation needs to be completed by tomorrow, but I also need to write the last few thousand words for this essay that's due at the same time", and I know it will change again in the next few years.

Crono 11-26-2013 12:02 PM

The only grades that matter (atleast in the system I was in) are your final 12th grade scores. Nothing before that even mattered, all those A's and B's didn't mean **** when I flopped on my last two years of high school.

Pazx 11-28-2013 11:14 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 429737)
i agree with your flawless reasoning

you realise... that school performance... has real life consequences... right?

Talon 11-29-2013 12:40 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 431005)
you realise... that school performance... has real life consequences... right?

Everything in real life has real life consequences, hell of a wake-up call. I'd hardly call high school performance - let alone middle school performance - anything more than trivial. Honestly, at least in America, the first three years of high school just simply don't mean much when considering future progress in universities if you're heading that path, and even if you do, community college transfers to universities are a very viable option if you're just looking to get by in life, which most people are. Performance in high school, and especially middle school, aren't pivotal at all except for the final year of high school and standardized testing (ACT/SAT).


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