Ehh just logged on rewl quick. 7-8 in a few rooms stil mostly inactive. I stand by my previous post.

yeah
I am literally addicted to beating him in spars any time I see him online and then laughing hysterically at the emotional rollercoaster that takes place in his status

if that makes me a bad person then so be it

Why does every spar thread end up in one or more people trying to offend Thallen? He's one of the most knowledgeable people in the spar community. I feel like HUSH decided he didn't like Thallen's response to his very opinionated original post, so he shot back at him, and people decided to take sides like this is some kind of battlefield...

Back on topic, I logged on last night and there were 19 people in queue to spar. Other rooms had about 7 or 8 in queue. I don't know what you guys consider "dead", nor why a declaration like this is necessary beyond an attempt to create flame wars... But I don't think spar is dead. I can log on any time of day and find plenty of competition. They do tend to clear the room faster if I win a lot, though...

Somewhat getting back on topic, when rooms are somewhat full like you stated that's an extremely rare event. The second someone starts streaking everyone starts leaving. It 's completely pointless. Everyone has their own opinions I suppose.

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This thread. absolutely precious. only spar thread ive ever seen that was worth my time reading.

Dont worry, ill hand out awards to my favorite posts after i finish.

Now about what this thread was originally about: the statement "sparring is dead"
Rexx brings up a good point. 7-8 people in a spar room may seem like a good number, but honestly, compared to the 2000 other players online, i consider that "dead" too. i remember a few years ago (before iClassic added flash client, i might add) the center spar room hardly went below 20.

now gimme a second to hand out those reps.

if you guys needed a forum thread to tell you that the spar community isn't as active as its ever been then I'd have to question your awareness
there's no question that there are a very few number of active people in the spar community

if you think that's because Sarah and ABOOD keep wrecking all of you to the point that everyone has abandoned the arena, then you're just dumb
no one spars because there is no reward to it

lol ya. I like the feeling every time i get when i beat the person i hate in a competition..especially when they're bragging and ****. i get wat u mean bruh.

Personally, yes i've seen the decline in sparring however it's not dead at all.

sparring may be less active than it once was, but that won't stop Comyt from skipping school to (yet again) abuse the /350 glitch to gain a #2 position on a leaderboard that he pretends not to care about

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stop trying to blame other people when you and your friends are part of the problem
the first step to "reviving" sparring is admitting that you have an inferiority complex and can only hold your own through chatting about sparring

I actually took the time to read everyone single persons post start to finish. I'm sure this thread and other threads complaining about spar wouldn't even exist if spar wins were just for kills, just like they were in the past.

Then it was all about the fun, and now its all about the competition. Who's best, who's not, etc... What if it its not graal making sparring apparently "dead", but instead the people?

I don't see the use in complaining and making a huge deal out of it in a thread. Is it REALLY worth your time typing a thread like this? The mind is such a horrible thing to waste, and it still continues to be wasted on things so useless. I wish threads were thought through before even being posted.

Anyway, this has gone off-topic and honestly think it should be deleted, these kinds of threads only make the Graalian community look worse, and I hate to see that. I want this community to grow, not decrease in its numbers.

Yay i f****** love sparring

Now, instead of responding to some old dude who has been playing Graal for all the years of his life that he was supposed to be doing something productive during, I'll be tackling the topic of this thread.

Sparring is dead. I was online from 6AM to 11AM today and observed the activity in the arena. Why was I on? I'm sick today, I don't skip school. I care about my life and I'm not interested in spending it on Graal unlike others.
6AM-8AM
Basically everybody in the Battle Arena had a negative win-loss ratio with the exception of Hikaru. I streaked 20 and there was no end in sight but I stopped because it didn't feel right. If you want to selective spar against negative ratios for rating or to improve your ratio, get online at this time. Most people on the lame rating leaderboard we have set up would love to take advantage of this, as you don't even see people with high leaderboard positions sparring against positive ratios, they have to protect that precious rating. Edin runs away, Sarah goes on an alternative account, Abood runs away, I could go on forever.
8AM-8:30AM
I cleared out the entire arena. There was one AFK person in the mixed streak room and two AFK people in the iDevice streak room. Nobody would join against me because they're scared of losing their rating. There were no signs of life at the time except for DestroyeD (VS) who lost to me only two times and went insane calling me a loser who gets bullied and threatening to send people to "drop me."
8:30AM-10AM
The olddudeswhoshouldbedoingsomethingelsewiththeirlife showed up. Dante began to streak off of a bunch of negative ratio players as Thallen spammed my private messages blowing up at me because I had a high rating from glitching which I immediately reset again as soon as I noticed it. He doesn't care about this game at all though, why else would someone look at a leaderboard that they don't even belong on? So yeah, lame time. 6AM to 10AM is the perfect time to boost your ratio and/or rating against a bunch of players with negative ratios.
10AM-11AM
Tae and Hikaru started sparring. Like finally, people who I could actually view as competition and have fun sparring while going for my 10,000th loss. Only two of them for the whole 5 hours though.

Sparring is dead. There are basically no good players left and all you can do is boost off of noobs. Everyone left, maybe because they got too old for this game, maybe because they didn't want to deal with egotistical old people being way too competitive with them, maybe because all of the "competition" ran away from them to selective spar.
But what I see as the root of all of our problems is the leaderboard. It is the reason why Abood, Sarah, etc. all run away/play on alternative accounts. It is the reason why these old people are getting angry and whining on forums all day long. Nobody wants to spar with the pressure of a leaderboard. If you have a high spot and spar often, against actual good players, you'll lose it. If you don't have a high spot, people will think you suck because the community thinks the leaderboard means something and then you'll start selective sparring to the top.
Going to recommend this for the 100th time: Replace the rating leaderboard with a wins per day/week/all time leaderboard. That will encourage people to spar all the time. To get on top of that, you have to spar quick, not waste 5 minutes running away from me to find a negative ratio to spar against.

once again, if you think anyone needs to be told that sparring is not as active as it has been in the past then your level of awareness and expectations of those around you must not be very high because that's been glaringly obvious for about a year (coincidentally the same length of time that you've been manipulating the leaderboard like a scrub)
anyone with half of a brain can make that observation, which is why I've constantly suggested ways to change the leaderboard and "spar culture" in general
your timeline is a pretty poor argument to support that fact anyway, because it's the morning of a school day on a game consisting primarily of North American players (not everyone can skip school to abuse the leaderboard like you)

the OP here stated that "sparring is dead" due to people who delay that probably constantly beat him, which is a joke

this applies only to the iDevice leaderboard, which is a community of people riddled with awkward personality complexes like you
just being honest

1. you have consistently abused the leaderboard because you seem deeply disturbed by the idea of the community thinking someone else is better than you (which then leads to you feeding other people points, raising the points pool as a whole)
2. you talk about sparring more than you actually do it, as if you can chat your way to proving you're the best or something
3. you're practically irrelevant in the spar community for about the past 6 months

you're not a part of the solution, sorry
no one else calls you out on this because they're probably intimidated by your demon of darkness/penguin of doom personality, but you're insane to act like you can come to these forums and act like you've done anything progressive for sparring

i can get any rating i want and havent, i must care too much.
i can get a rating and keep it by hoarding but i reset and sparred more, i clearly want to be distracted by a rating.
ive done more progressive for sparring than you, your progress is backwards. spar used to be fun and people would join in and not worry about how good they are. then you came along. your race. pcs. old people who invaded our lame application and started screaming "you suck at spar im the best" and made it a stupid competition where all of us had to copy your lame attitude and brag constantly. you ruined spar, dont talk about progress.

also forgot to say, for your "you talk about sparring more than you actually do it" part, isnt that what you are doing right now? you have been online for as long as me and have not participated in one spar while i have been in over 100. youve been whining, i mean talking about spar on these forums and actually sparring less than me. biggest hypocrite on the game award? anyone? seriously.

I like this a lot. It would definitely encourage people to spar more.

Comyt your test was at the worst times possible seriously you did it when most europe are asleep and when kids are in school in america. Plus did you really have to stay on for 5 hours and count people

Another thing calling someone sad when you did a test for 5 HOURS on how many people entered a room is a wee bit hypocritcal

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Comyt's entire personality on Graal was forced on him
all of those statuses about him being the best to ever grace this game, he was just the victim
what a clown

im sick and cant do anything else, my bad, want me to watch television and grow stupider every second or something? go away with your lame hate comments.

For anyone who doesn't blame the inactivity in spars on people who are better than them and actually want the community to see something new, check: http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21100

For the rest of this thread, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex

see also:
hy·poc·ri·sy
hiˈpäkrisē/
noun
1.
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

Comyt has like 60,000 total spars how can you say he talks about it more than he does it when he has nearly 3 times your total spars lol. And I don't know why you singled out Yui earlier too about using noob accounts when Sarah and Abood use them MORE. I think I've been blocked by like 5 of Sarah's noob accounts because after I beat her I get the usual "lmao" from her then I say something witty and she just says "blocked". I don't know how one can preach so much how great sparrers never talk and complain and what not when people like Sarah and Abood rage all the time lol. And let's not forget Abood used to dress up as a girl named Lina and date boys! And the last Gst wouldn't be the first ones where Abood's ridiculous lag/delay was causing problems. When my team faced Earth the weirdo Lina was on that team and she was lagging up a storm but we didn't even have to say anything the admin was about to DQ her anyway. But we won anyway so there was nothing to complain about. But seriously, that lag/delay is ridiculous and is what makes them "good" sparrers, not any skill you think they have lol.

not even going to explain why this is because I truly believe that if you apply the most basic thought process that you can come to multiple conclusions here
this thread isn't about me or Comyt

Sarah does use alternate accounts, I don't know/care if ABOOD does
Sarah is probably one of the top 5 most active sparrers for months on her main account and has proven so many times that she really doesn't care for any leaderboard spot
if you seriously allow "LMAO" to grind your gears, then not sure what to tell you

Sarah and ABOOD aren't "great sparrers"
They both realize that delay works as both a handicap and an advantage to them and it makes sparring difficult for both sides in many ways

True or false, how is that even relevant? Why do people always come in these threads with that stuff? It's a thread about sparring, I could care less if this guy sexted Rufus or Xor TBH

you've proven time and time again on this forum that you don't understand the most simple mechanics of lag and/or delay
you (or maybe it was Lia, I forget) tried saying in a sparring thread before that laggers don't experience the same mutual lag/delay when they themselves are lagging
I just don't think you have a clue about lag or networking overall

as usual, this thread has morphed into a discussion about who is good at sparring, who lags, who does this or that, instead of why "sparring is dead"

Well your goofy ass came here and turned this thread into being about you and Comyt! You're the one who took this off topic not me silly man!

And no Sarah's "lmao's" make me laugh! And I'm not the one blocking people after a spar for getting owned lol.

And are you really talking about what's relevant when you and comyt just had a lil flame war lol.

With all this discussion on the topic, I'd hardly call spar dead. :)

I actually wonder who some recent active sparrers are. I know I've seen Junior, Sarah, Jagger, Thallen, and some others on pretty actively sparring, but who else? There are tons of players I don't know the names of as well, so I apologize for not mentioning them.

the OP in this thread specifically mentioned Comyt
all I did was attempt to point out why Comyt hasn't done **** for sparring except help ruin the community and leaderboards even more
if you didn't rush into these threads drooling at the opportunity to harass me, you'd notice these things

now default to calling me old or whatever and let's keep it moving

• T3CK
• Prime
• Blood
• Dante
• Hikaru
• Aarian
• Zankyra
• Tae
• Abel
• Destroyer
• ethereal mirage (should have quit)
• Red Leo
• Anthony
• Toich
• Ruke
• Fulgore
• Vlad
• Nadine
• Legolas
• Kelsie
• Shiden
• Super
• Brenda
• Scarsi
• Megi
• Savant

all of whom are at least average sparrers at minimum

I wasn't drooling to harass anyone lol. I just came upon this thread and started reading all the posts and was like "hmm looks like a lil scuffle between thallen and comyt". A lil quote from mean girls for ya, "You think everybody is in love with you when actually, everybody HATES you!" This is what happens when people realize or think they're good at something. They think people are obsessed with them and stuff lol. Instead of the word hate in that quote, it's more like everyone finds you laughable about how cocky you're on a game and how serious you think sparring matters lol.

But as soon as one of these sparrers start beef with Thallen, they're not good anymore! They all of a sudden suck and are embarassments to him!

you're a forum warrior and you don't know me in game

I don't say a single word when I'm sparring other than "GG"
I don't make obsessive statuses praising myself as the best every other day
I don't pretend to be better than I am
I just play the game

anyone who actually actively spars on the game will tell you that I am modest and quiet about it
if someone acts up and pretends they're amazing and talks **** to everyone for months like Comyt has done, I'll let them know what I think about them
no one "starts beef" with me because I'm passive and just have fun playing the game
sorry if that bothers you

Wow, that's more people than I thought. Did forget Draz and Slayer, though. I do wish everyone would stop bothering each other, I mean if someone else is an ass about the game then let it be... Stop carrying on about it.

This.

Instead of responding to anything Comyt or Goten says when they make you look like an idiot by saying "das not wat dis thred is about :3" actually respond to them. This thread obviously isn't about the title anymore, and you've made is quite obvious that you're aware to the fact.

it*

you're such a strange groupie
holler @ me in the arena doe~*

I'm strange? You know absolutely nothing about me.

ur deluuusional ur deluuusional boi u wasting ur tiiime ^_~

I really want to see Dante versus Thallen.
It would be an exciting match.

Actually, only the first two of these statements are true, or else you wouldn't be posting on these forums with such demeanor.

you post in every sparring thread with your 2 cents, often 2 cents that makes absolutely 0 sense (the wordplay though), when I've never once seen you in the Battle Arena
is that an actual explanation to that
move on

gonna disappear from this thread for a while and let you guys carry on crying over how you can't win spars anymore and therefore sparring is "dead" to you
looking forward to nothing being done about the constant abuse of the leaderboards

Thallen challenge Dante to a series. I must see it.

"You think everybody is in love with you when actually, everybody HATES you!"

ouu kill em

Stop digressing, the least you could do is address the title of this thread but it seems like you don't have the attention span to stay on one topic.

Spar isn't dead, there's still many players out there sparring. To be honest, there hasn't been any underdog sparrers that have come out of the blue recently. The thing is, I don't think besides the boards resetting that there's been a sparring update to incite interest into graalians.

And with the first post on this thread, were off topic! I came in on like page 5 why am I being accused of going off topic when Thallen is calling people "emotional wrecks" lol. You should read the whole thread before mindlessly coming at me.

I logges on today to spar for the first time in a while and it seemed full of people. Depends on time zones I guess. East coast prime time is pretty full.

wtf r u guys on everyone is guild sparring now dumbasses

Apparently Thallen does. Go look at any thread ever started that has to do with sparring he will be on there. Not trying to put anybody on blast I'm Just saying.

I tend to agree with the guy who started the thread. I know you could go into the battle arena at any point in the day and see at least a dozen people in the spar rooms. I don't check the gs rooms. I would probably be safe in assuming that 90-95% of the Classic population doesn't care about sparring until the GST rolls around.

So Imo I would say sparring is not completely but mostly dead. Except for the small group of ppl who like to spar and or compete for spots on the list that nobody but them cares about.

ITT: I'm not very good at sparring, and refuse to acknowledge the 30+ players in the battle arena from 7-9PM EST on any given day. I think that Sarah and ABOOD need to relocate and start entirely new irl lives because of their delay on a 2D game. Not only do I actively complain about them, I do absolutely nothing to try and learn how to beat them even though I've seen people do it before.

Is that about right?

Just stop trying to create conflict.

Spar threads should be banned from this forum, we as a player base are becoming worse and worse.

/thread :)

Create? Mother ****er I am conflict.

All joking aside, if by "we" you mean "we the players who do nothing but complain" then yes, you guys are out of control.

no **** I do ROFL
the entire premise of this thread revolves around caring about sparring
now stare in awe at my world championship belt that I earned by fighting valiantly against the greatest warriors of Graal

http://i.imgur.com/bBRrvOW.png

LMAO

DEATH TO THALLEN

http://i.imgur.com/7t8hEp6.png