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BabyGhost 06-21-2013 03:32 AM

KSG is great by itself. But why use the shield if it's harming it's performance? How often do you see a KSG user with a shield? Extremely rare. Using the shield nerfs the KSG and it's benefits aren't enough to compensate for the heavy freeze rate and terrible rate of fire.

Shock 06-21-2013 04:55 AM

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Posted by BabyGhost (Post 372783)
KSG is great by itself. But why use the shield if it's harming it's performance? How often do you see a KSG user with a shield? Extremely rare. Using the shield nerfs the KSG and it's benefits aren't enough to compensate for the heavy freeze rate and terrible rate of fire.

Well, that's one of the problems. Why would a shield come with a gun and do just about nothing, other than nerfing it? But, as you could assume, the shield is cool as hell and should be cool as hell to use. I guess you could change the context: "How often do you see a KSG user with a shield?" Not often, and it's because there's no logical reason to.

igotNoStyle 06-21-2013 05:29 AM

Everyone see that the KSG is underpowered gun for its price.

the only thing is the gun admin doesnt want to admit it.

this issue is very very old.

can u please fix the damn gun or just remove it.

i mean, why put a shield in KSG if it only nerf the gun?

R o g u e 06-21-2013 05:57 AM

Not being mean but could you all give BitzSam a break he trying his best to fix this.Now stop complaining and just tell him the problems your having instead of saying how the KSG can't beat a bar because a course it can't beat a bar 200,000 to 75,000 ._. And how Underpowered it is because if you said its UP most likely that other person said it was UP so you really think repeating the same thing over and over again will help!

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-21-2013 11:19 AM

lowered freeze and upped firerate on KSG whilst with shield, idk why the shield block seems to work for some and not for others but ill keep looking

romario786 06-21-2013 04:31 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 372987)
lowered freeze and upped firerate on KSG whilst with shield, idk why the shield block seems to work for some and not for others but ill keep looking

Block rate still not working for me Sam..

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Posted by ReBorn (Post 372869)
Not being mean but could you all give BitzSam a break he trying his best to fix this.Now stop complaining and just tell him the problems your having instead of saying how the KSG can't beat a bar because a course it can't beat a bar 200,000 to 75,000 ._. And how Underpowered it is because if you said its UP most likely that other person said it was UP so you really think repeating the same thing over and over again will help!

No we are telling him the problem, KSG is great without shield but as soon as you put the shield on even a Uzi kills it, I really liked Shock's idea where the shield gets destroyed after 5 consecutive shots and regenerates after a little while, it sounds as the gun will be balanced if that idea is placed into action that way users and opponents won't complain.

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Posted by bobo (Post 372749)
Actually, without the bullet registration timer, I'd give the ksg a good shot. Every hit could let you eat a few bullets when the enemy can't eat yours.

I agree with you bobo, but the shield just nerfs the KSG plus block is not working for me whilst equipped shield.

Ghettoicedtea 06-21-2013 04:31 PM

I still like my idea where we make the shield its own melee.

romario786 06-21-2013 04:35 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 373114)
I still like my idea where we make the shield its own melee.

Your idea was 100% block rate, that way people will stand on base doors and not move and act as a human door which will not be penetratable and it will be same as when people use the lag glitch to block doors.

Talon 06-21-2013 05:02 PM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 372360)
I don't get it, everyone who owns a KSG are complaining on the lack of shield operations, why isn't anything is being done? The shield is not even in working mode at the moment as it does not block no damage whatsoever :/

You're right, it doesn't block no damage. Hence it blocks damage.

BabyGhost 06-21-2013 10:26 PM

I don't think this is the case but, the shield works on a PC version but not on a device version. (I am very likely to be wrong. But it's just like how the Era Facebook has different sound effects)

Ghettoicedtea 06-21-2013 11:21 PM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 373118)
Your idea was 100% block rate, that way people will stand on base doors and not move and act as a human door which will not be penetratable and it will be same as when people use the lag glitch to block doors.

ugh no, that was not what i ment to implement. What i ment to say is due to the 100% block on it CAN NOT BLOCK melees and explosives like the old KSG shield. It would make things a hell of a lot easier to balance the KSG without it being OP with shield or underpowered

romario786 06-22-2013 12:12 AM

Well KSG shield still not blocking damage for many of us.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-22-2013 12:37 AM

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Posted by BabyGhost (Post 373325)
I don't think this is the case but, the shield works on a PC version but not on a device version. (I am very likely to be wrong. But it's just like how the Era Facebook has different sound effects)

I used my iPod when testing the shield

romario786 06-22-2013 02:02 AM

Sorry Sam, but shield still not working for me, wrap me in game and ill prove it to you ?

romario786 06-23-2013 06:45 AM

After testing the KAG out with Sam, infact the KSG has been buffed and it is indeed very good, however the problem what we are facing is the shield.

When carrying the shield the movement speed is the same as normal, the freeze rate of the gun is reduced by only 0.2 (which is not bad) also the Sam has buffed the freeze rate of the gun to, which makes it a bit better.

The main concern of the KSG gun now is the shield, due to unexpected circumstances Sam can not read the script which pix wrote, therefore he was enable to fix the shield problem which does not work, however Sam told me that SNK will look into this to fix the problem we are facing due to the shield. So hopefully once the shield is fixed the gun will be in perfect shape to play with it once again.

I think the KSG 9 damage is perfect and if you know how to use the gun you can dominate with it without a shield, but once the shield has been fixed it will be much better.

Thanks Sam!

lord greg 06-23-2013 10:53 AM

So it's OP now?

romario786 06-23-2013 01:14 PM

No lol, it's balanced really well now, only OP when in right hands of true Sparer and if you know how to use it.

Cookie Xanadu 06-23-2013 03:05 PM

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Posted by igotNoStyle (Post 372237)
how about make the damage of KSG 4 per bullet increase the freeze when the shield is on.


that way everything is balanced with the shield

everyone is happy

and it's worth the wait!

-Fxed

*Honestly, depending on how much % the shield blocks, it'd make more sense to lower movement speed until it breaks as well.. Basically like the Riot Shield, but to a lesser extent.

romario786 06-23-2013 09:38 PM

Once the shield has been fixed, the KSG will be well worth for its price.


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