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spades of feare 04-14-2012 01:05 AM

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Posted by Rexx
They should've put Halo to rest when Bungie signed off with Halo Reach.
Its the greedy M$ bastards forcing this sequel..

Its pretty fanboyish but I dont like what they did to MC's armour, it doesnt even look like him anymore.
I honestly cant say I'm excited about Halo 4 nor was I excited when Halo Anniversary came out. Thats saying a lot, I'm a huge Halo fan.

@Jester Dont even compare Halo to CoD, Halo's minor improvements with each sequel were much more meaningful than CoD's. There was nothing wrong with Halo, and theres a ton of people mad that they added AA's to Reach
.Plus Halo actually had a real story and created a new entire universe

The new armor is ment to be lore based in which mark 7 armor is aerofoiled to be basicly its own odst drop pod, i forsee some amazimg space jumps in halo4 and agreed :D

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Posted by Crono
if theres one overrated series that ive never understood its probably halo. jesus christ i played the first one and it was a mediocre fps, whats the big deal?

.... Words cannot describe my disappointment, halo is the epitomy of FPS. Halo is not over rated at all.

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Posted by Dusty

Goldeneye 007 filled that niche long before Halo was around.

Whos still playing golden eye? Nobody. Halo has somthing like 8.9 billion dollars in sales.

Remorse 04-14-2012 01:59 AM

Never liked the halo series.

Tyler 04-14-2012 02:09 AM

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Posted by Remorse (Post 95025)
Never liked the halo series.

Really? I thought people would at least like one of the features the games provide like forge, online multiplayer, co-op campaign, custom games, or that it's modding capable.

spades of feare 04-14-2012 02:20 AM

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Posted by Remorse
Never liked the halo series.

Then your in this thread... Why?

Remorse 04-14-2012 02:49 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95031)
Then your in this thread... Why?

Read the title.

Dusty 04-14-2012 03:05 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95015)
Whos still playing golden eye? Nobody. Halo has somthing like 8.9 billion dollars in sales.

Point? You said it was the first mainstream successful fps on a console and it wasn't. Also just because a game isn't still popular doesn't make it any less impactful. Also who still plays the FIRST Halo?

Maikeru 04-14-2012 09:26 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95015)
Whos still playing golden eye? Nobody. Halo has somthing like 8.9 billion dollars in sales.

Ok. So whos playing the first Super Smash Brothers at the moment? its a very good game still and made a huge impact on 4 player action games.

Same for Mario Party which made a huge success based around their own creative board game

And what about Mortal Kombat 1? That literally created the ESRB rating system due to Sub-Zero's spine ripper..

Point in short.. A game not being played at the moment does not prove that it did not make a huge impact in the history of video games

And idc about Halo anymore...
Halo 3 was supposed to Finish the fight... In other words, the conclusion.. Halo Reach was a prequel to the whole Halo franchise and they said that the franchise is finished..

Until 343 industries took the franchise, informing us that Finishing the fight was a false accusation to the franchise (which its not!): And then confirming a whole new trilogy to the franchise...

I don't know how is the story going to continue after Halo 3... I seriously don't..

Microsoft knows how much money Halo makes when it comes to the multiplayer... So they won't stop screwing up the Halo franchise.. Only to constantly push online multiplayer in your face so that you can go buy more Xbox live gold cards.. When all the Halo games are best played Locally with your friends...

Like GoldenEye... Which made a huge impact on FPS local multiplayer and the FPS genre itself... Nothing holds a crown over GoldenEye when it comes to local multiplayer... Its damn fun!

spades of feare 04-14-2012 04:33 PM

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Posted by Dusty
Point? You said it was the first mainstream successful fps on a console and it wasn't. Also just because a game isn't still popular doesn't make it any less impactful. Also who still plays the FIRST Halo?

Actully quite alot, it seems to have been big enough to get its own remake for the 10yr anneversary. And it was the first mega-success. And yes i understand popularity=\=impact.

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Posted by Maikeru

Ok. So whos playing the first Super Smash Brothers at the moment? its a very good game still and made a huge impact on 4 player action games.

Same for Mario Party which made a huge success based around their own creative board game

And what about Mortal Kombat 1? That literally created the ESRB rating system due to Sub-Zero's spine ripper..

Point in short.. A game not being played at the moment does not prove that it did not make a huge impact in the history of video games

And idc about Halo anymore...
Halo 3 was supposed to Finish the fight... In other words, the conclusion.. Halo Reach was a prequel to the whole Halo franchise and they said that the franchise is finished..

Until 343 industries took the franchise, informing us that Finishing the fight was a false accusation to the franchise (which its not!): And then confirming a whole new trilogy to the franchise...

I don't know how is the story going to continue after Halo 3... I seriously don't..

Microsoft knows how much money Halo makes when it comes to the multiplayer... So they won't stop screwing up the Halo franchise.. Only to constantly push online multiplayer in your face so that you can go buy more Xbox live gold cards.. When all the Halo games are best played Locally with your friends...

Like GoldenEye... Which made a huge impact on FPS local multiplayer and the FPS genre itself... Nothing holds a crown over GoldenEye when it comes to local multiplayer... Its damn fun!

I despise local multiplayer because somebody always rages and kicks the console because they are sucking. And halo 3 did finish the fight with the covenant did it not? I think it did, and come on you serriously didnt want to know the story of chief after the legendary H3 ending? And i dont see how they have "screwed up" the franchise. They certaintly arent raming us up the ass with it like activision tries to do with COD.

Dusty 04-14-2012 04:42 PM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95315)
Actully quite alot, it seems to have been big enough to get its own remake for the 10yr anneversary. And it was the first mega-success. And yes i understand popularity=\=impact.

So? Goldeneye was remade too. Now the term mega-success is being used instead? I'm not DOWNPLAYING Halo, just saying that it wasn't the first successful console FPS. I don't understand why people are getting defensive about it.

Maikeru 04-14-2012 05:15 PM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95315)
I despise local multiplayer because somebody always rages and kicks the console because they are sucking. And halo 3 did finish the fight with the covenant did it not? I think it did, and come on you serriously didnt want to know the story of chief after the legendary H3 ending? And i dont see how they have "screwed up" the franchise. They certaintly arent raming us up the ass with it like activision tries to do with COD.

Ok... Let me inform you that
http://www.bungie.net/images/games/H...eFight_800.jpg

Was not marketed as finishing the fight with the covenant... at all..
It was completely marketed as "Finish the fight".. It was informed that this was supposed to be the conclusion to the franchise and that Reach was a prequel and the last Halo game..

Literally, WTF happened to this?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1086915p1.html

And if i wanted a game to know more about Master Chief: They should've then made a game that doesn't involves destroying the conclusion of the franchise! Like a game before Halo 1 or between Halo 1 and 2 which tells the story of Master Chief..

But no... Halo 4 is made.. And 343 industries has been focusing more on the multiplayer aspect rather than the campaign aspect of the game. Its like they don't give two damns about the story mode and decide to continue milking the halo franchise because of the multiplayer that attracted hundreds to the xbox360..

And if you're comparing Call of Duty to Halo: Halo has been the same through all of its game but with additional content. Halo hasn't changed and so hasn't Call of Duty.. They're both the same thing... Except Call of Duty so far hasn't destroyed any conclusion to one of its games.. But if i see a Call of Duty: Modern warfare 4... I can highly agree with you that Call of Duty is nothing compared to Halo..

But for now, 343 industries is starting to milk the Halo Franchise.. and thats horrible... Especially for a game which had a very strong conclusion.. The ending in Halo 3 was actually good..

spades of feare 04-14-2012 06:51 PM

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Posted by Maikeru

Ok... Let me inform you that

Was not marketed as finishing the fight with the covenant... at all..
It was completely marketed as "Finish the fight".. It was informed that this was supposed to be the conclusion to the franchise and that Reach was a prequel and the last Halo game..

Literally, WTF happened to this?
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1086915p1.html

And if i wanted a game to know more about Master Chief: They should've then made a game that doesn't involves destroying the conclusion of the franchise! Like a game before Halo 1 or between Halo 1 and 2 which tells the story of Master Chief..

But no... Halo 4 is made.. And 343 industries has been focusing more on the multiplayer aspect rather than the campaign aspect of the game. Its like they don't give two damns about the story mode and decide to continue milking the halo franchise because of the multiplayer that attracted hundreds to the xbox360..

And if you're comparing Call of Duty to Halo: Halo has been the same through all of its game but with additional content. Halo hasn't changed and so hasn't Call of Duty.. They're both the same thing... Except Call of Duty so far hasn't destroyed any conclusion to one of its games.. But if i see a Call of Duty: Modern warfare 4... I can highly agree with you that Call of Duty is nothing compared to Halo..

But for now, 343 industries is starting to milk the Halo Franchise.. and thats horrible... Especially for a game which had a very strong conclusion.. The ending in Halo 3 was actually good..

For the story between games we have the novels, the one between halo 1 and 2 is called halo:first strike. And how would you know there focus on which aspect when theres barely any completely offical information out. They have a team of close to 150 people total working on it so i think either way it will turn out amazing, the campaign will be focusing on how much more badass spartans are than they have been portrayed ex. Vaulting, climing up shafts and other motions like dive rolls. And i believe halo has changed alot , all cod has gotten for the last 5 or6 years since cod 4 was a graphics update and a crap campaign. And i havent seen much milking, they seem to be doing alot of work very covertly which i love being supprised andnot knowing every detail, cant wait for E3 .... Im mad they didnt have a panel at PAX.

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Posted by Dusty

So? Goldeneye was remade too. Now the term mega-success is being used instead? I'm not DOWNPLAYING Halo, just saying that it wasn't the first successful console FPS. I don't understand why people are getting defensive about it.

Oh , my bad, yeah i will give you that. Sorry :(

Maikeru 04-15-2012 06:37 AM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95418)
For the story between games we have the novels, the one between halo 1 and 2 is called halo:first strike.

Im referring to as a game... Not a novel. That would be like if God of war 2 was a comic known as God of War 1.5 instead of a game and God of war 3 is named "God of War 2"

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And how would you know there focus on which aspect when theres barely any completely offical information out. They have a team of close to 150 people total working on it so i think either way it will turn out amazing, the campaign will be focusing on how much more badass spartans are than they have been portrayed ex.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...4/facepalm.jpg
This completely proves my point that Halo 4's story is going to be utter garbage... But it may prove me wrong... who knows..

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Vaulting, climing up shafts and other motions like dive rolls. And i believe halo has changed alot , all cod has gotten for the last 5 or6 years since cod 4 was a graphics update and a crap campaign.
>Implying cod only got a graphics update

-Killstreaks/Deathstreaks (varied and switched from COD4 to COD MW3)
-Nazi Zombies (COD World at War and COD Black Ops)
-Campaign sections (Tanks, Helicopters, Sleds, etc.)
-Perks (Varied and switch through the COD games)
-Survival (Also known as FireFight in Halo 3: ODST)
-MW3's class system (Specialist, Support, Attacker,etc.)

Where dafuq have you been?
And dear god... The campaign is fun but its short and repetitive at times if you play from COD4 to COD MW3. It still leaves a small grin on your face when theres some kind of fun mission.. Like the sleds

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And i havent seen much milking, they seem to be doing alot of work very covertly which i love being supprised andnot knowing every detail, cant wait for E3 .... Im mad they didnt have a panel at PAX
http://forums.timegate.com/attachmen...1&d=1306963135

You are completely missing out the point here and acting like a whiny Call of Duty Fanboy would do...

Halo 3 was a conclusion to the Halo Trilogy..
It had a perfect and satisfying conclusion...

But no... You think its right to revive John-117 everytime you think the Master Chief deserves better...

Imagine if all of a sudden: Solid snake dies in a game by being shot in the head... And then in the next metal gear game, he wakes up with a shot in the chest and says he had his bulletproof vest on..

Assassin Creed has shown that its sequels could tell the story of other assassins and still maintain as a really good game..

In other words, why not have the story put in the shoes of a different spartan like in Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach? Why do you have to revive John-117 and destroy such a perfect conclusion to the original Halo trilogy?

Also, please explain to me: What new threat is Master Chief going to fight? If its a virus that infects spartans and have them all against Master Chief: That'd be cool i guess... Idk..

spades of feare 04-15-2012 05:31 PM

Why is attempting to portray somthing more accurately than bungie did a bad thing and focusing on just how amazing there is and then 343 still has to confront the fact that cortana is now rampant being approx 7 1/2 years old, no comment on the cod part im done arguing that.

And im not saying the h3 conclusion isnt satisfying .

And i will admit it would be intresting to play as one of the 15 other living spartan 2s.but there is no war anymore, well... The covanant planets are hell considering theres no gov't but the mission would have to be either really boring post war things or finding master chief.

New threat: in order of likely hood.
1.) religous sangheli(confirmed with gameiformer)
2.) forerunner death machines
3.) human insurrectionists
4.) the san- shyyum(prophet race returing on there own with some super ship?
5.) the precursor.
6.) forerunners.

Rexx 04-15-2012 06:39 PM

You shouldnt hate Halo because they might be ruining it, you should still love it for what it was ^.^

Maikeru 04-15-2012 07:15 PM

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Posted by spades of feare (Post 95880)
Why is attempting to portray somthing more accurately than bungie did a bad thing and focusing on just how amazing there is and then 343 still has to confront the fact that cortana is now rampant being approx 7 1/2 years old, no comment on the cod part im done arguing that.

And im not saying the h3 conclusion isnt satisfying .

And i will admit it would be intresting to play as one of the 15 other living spartan 2s.but there is no war anymore, well... The covanant planets are hell considering theres no gov't but the mission would have to be either really boring post war things or finding master chief.

New threat: in order of likely hood.
1.) religous sangheli(confirmed with gameiformer)
2.) forerunner death machines
3.) human insurrectionists
4.) the san- shyyum(prophet race returing on there own with some super ship?
5.) the precursor.
6.) forerunners.

Well they did mention a new threat for Halo 4 haven't they?
And why not a new Master Chief? or play as one of the 15 spartans? That would have been good

Im still disappointed at how John-117 is still alive.. Its really frustrating.. Especially in H3's Conclusion... where it really looked like the ship was crashing down with Master Chief and Cortana inside of it..

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Posted by Rexx (Post 95920)
You shouldnt hate Halo because they might be ruining it, you should still love it for what it was ^.^

Then i should love the Call of Duty Modern Warfare series because i love Call of Duty 2?

Also, Im only a fan of the first three.. The rest of the halo franchise feels completely odd (ODST and Reach)


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