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Ethacon 07-20-2017 04:29 PM

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Posted by McCullough (Post 790813)
My guess is they didn't expect this kind of behavior in players

They shouldn't have to because the that kind of behavior in players shouldn't exist. But it does and always will. People are going to be a ****, people are going to be an ass, people are going to be a "bish". No one is going to stop being a jerk. (this includes harassment in PMs, and in public chat, stealing BKs and PKs, etc.)

McCullough 07-20-2017 06:24 PM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 790818)
They shouldn't have to because the that kind of behavior in players shouldn't exist. But it does and always will. People are going to be a ****, people are going to be an ass, people are going to be a "bish". No one is going to stop being a jerk. (this includes harassment in PMs, and in public chat, stealing BKs and PKs, etc.)

Behavior as is actions. They probably didn't expect to see people using other people for their own benefit, in this case it was with using others to keep the numbers in a guild up when towering.

RyanB 07-20-2017 11:15 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 790715)
CTF got removed because people boosted kills in it

Can confirm after shooting up my school when i exposed it and realized it was closed the next day

Saber Alumba 07-21-2017 12:03 AM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 790804)
Even if the old guild system wasn't perfect, they shouldn't remove it like that. They should have replaced it straight away with the NGS. There wasn't any huge issue with the old guild system that forced them to remove it without even preparing the new system. Most of the players who towers right now are new players or pk guilds, we all know the old system was better than no system. But, we can't really judge them since everyone make mistakes.

There was lots wrong with it , creating a faulty system encouraged faulty behaviour in how a guild should be run and dealt with. By removing it early in my opinion will cleanse the general idea of what a guild was before from players heads and let the new guild system flow in a bit more smother you. If they was to suddenly change the system to the new guild system over night then many players who have embedded this kind of approach toward the guilds wouldn't accept it as easily. Also by giving this space in between they can get the whole community involved and get a range of different ideas from players to try and make as many people as possible happy with he new system

Agonee 07-21-2017 12:26 AM

How long are you guys going to talk about the past?

Crono 07-22-2017 07:12 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 790879)
How long are you guys going to talk about the past?

server is called classic and runs on nostalgia...

G Fatal 07-22-2017 10:10 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 790879)
How long are you guys going to talk about the past?

Well it’s not like graal is showing anything going for the future now. Hi Hape

Rusix 07-23-2017 05:50 AM

I will admit. Graal Classic is very dumb for it's decisions in just completely wiping something out instead of fixing the issue. Graal does have some good ideas. Amazing ones even. But they just kinda backstab themselves by screwing up their ****. By removing York Town tower. You increased the competition in other tower guilds especially since there was 3 towers removed. York,snow,Castle which makes the previous tower guilds more competitive and fight over the already taken towers.

Even on things like support. Graal had an AMAZING support system (In terms of getting a reply). You could see if it was read. See their reply on the site.ect. all on the site. But since they was hacked or something they just decided to completely screw off their good system and replace it with such a crappy system that they can make graal the #1 WORST game to get support on in history. It's just absolutely ridiculous if you have any problem at all you may as well never even report it or send a ticket because absolutely nothing will be done.

Graal could be such a better game not only to play but to interact with if graal simply didn't take the lazy way out and say " Oh there is some boosting pkers, We just gonna wipe out CTF. Oh we tired of making hats for towers, gonna wipe it out" it's honestly just ridiculous I do have to agree it is completely absurd graal does that. There isn't really even a point to towering now. Literally none. No reward's or anything I think anymore.

I do hate to say it. I really do in all honesty. But I'd have to say I wish Toonslab sold graal off to people who actually knew wtf they was really doing and stop taking the lazy way out of fixing problems

Ruppy 07-23-2017 06:00 AM

I like to be a problem solver and if you guys want my house is open 24/7 and I have set up a CTF at my house the rules are in front of it! enjoy ;)

titter 07-23-2017 06:42 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 791084)
stop taking the lazy way out of fixing problems

this is what I hate the most. People use the excuse "oh the things they removed had problems" so why not just fix the problems so you don't have to remove a part of the game.

Ethacon 07-23-2017 06:53 AM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 791087)
I like to be a problem solver and if you guys want my house is open 24/7 and I have set up a CTF at my house the rules are in front of it! enjoy ;)

Why the random advertisement, yes I know CTF is in the discussion but as creative as they can be games built in player's houses are nothing compared to scripted systems and are complete crap compared to them.

McCullough 07-23-2017 04:42 PM

The thing they simply could have done for CTF was eliminate pks while in the building, that way pk boosters wouldn't go there. I think another problem is trolls, too. I bet some people would go there just to ruin it for others, but I haven't been around enough to see CTF it so don't quote me.

Crono 07-23-2017 06:51 PM

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Posted by titter (Post 790717)
You gonna explain orrrrr

nope

Dusty 07-23-2017 07:36 PM

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Posted by titter (Post 791094)
this is what I hate the most. People use the excuse "oh the things they removed had problems" so why not just fix the problems so you don't have to remove a part of the game.

Because it would take a long time to fix something no one used while they whine and rant that resources had to be pulled away from other updates that were already underway?

Graal has too much on its plate and too little staff.

titter 07-24-2017 12:39 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 791126)
Because it would take a long time to fix something no one used while they whine and rant that resources had to be pulled away from other updates that were already underway?

Graal has too much on its plate and too little staff.

well then maybe before you release new content you could have it tested so exploits like what was in CTF could be removed before release. I feel like there are many ways to resolve the problems that are better than removing the content altogether. And I'm guessing there are hundreds of players who would be happy to test it out.

And why should the players be "penalized" for graal having "too much on it's plate?" They're not the ones promising content before creating it, development is.


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